[Theory] ?Marco the Phoenix's Fate | Killed By Blackbeard?

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In chapter 820 we learned of Marco and the remainder of the Whitebeard Pirates’ crushing defeat at the hands of the Blackbeard Pirates in the “Payback War”. But as of yet we have no confirmation on the fates of any of those involved on Marco’s side.

We all know that Blackbeard is not the type of man to show mercy to his enemies, and is also currently engaged in a Devil Fruit hunt, for which it seems likely the previous user must be killed. I don’t believe that Blackbeard would allow the war to end without claiming at least one fruit.

Many people are going to speculate that it was Jozu’s, as per the popular theory in which Shiryu becomes a diamond man and the final opponent for Zoro, but I believe that Blackbeard has taken Marco’s fruit for himself, giving him one Devil Fruit of each type (Zoan, Logia and Paramecia). The most powerful fruits of the 2 latter and most powerful introduced so far of the former.
But wait, I hear you say, doesn’t that mean Marco is dead? Nope.
Let’s rewind a little first. Shanks did at some point invite Marco to join his crew, so he obviously has great respect for him and thinks of him in a friendly manner, and would likely aid him in time of need.

Now, Marco is of course “The Phoenix”. And what do we know to be the defining trait of the phoenix? Rebirth. Yes, the phoenix is famed for it’s powers of rebirth, typically portraying them as rising again in their infant form from the remains of their previous incarnation. I believe that this is what happens when the user of the phoenix fruit perishes, at which point the fruit passes on as normal to prevent anyone from keeping it perpetually. This is when Blackbeard claimed it.
So what of the infant Marco? As I said earlier, Shanks helped him out and delivered him somewhere safe. Where?

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Don’t tell me you all thought Shanks was actually the type to have a kid and get married right?
Going to address a few common points:
The SBS statement of the baby being “probably that man’s” – 1: It’s vague and 2: It could mean any major character. Some people even think it’s Ace. Could be Whitebeard (metaphorically). No confirmation that it’s Shanks
Marco could be dead, Dragon’s going to die, Whitebeard, Ace and Vergo already died, One Piece is not about fights
Weevil – Wants to fight Blackbeard not the Whitebeard pirates, is being manipulated for money, if they’re already gone Bucking can just take the money. Plus he hinted that he’s going after Luffy to find out about Marco. The Strawhats are about to find out about Marco. They won’t direct Weevil to him regardless so how are the two meant to fight???
“Marco loses relevance to the story” – The story isn’t about the Yonko’s crews and that’s the way it should be
“The Strawhats need allies” – Giving them a fighter who’s stronger than their captain renders Luffy vs Kaido redundant since it makes more sense for Marco to do it, plus having the Stawhats carried by admiral tier yonkou crew members is poor writing. They can get allies from elsewhere. Former enemies, Supernovas, etc
“Nekomamushi said they need Marco” – His point was that they need strong allies, he simply chose Marco. The point isn’t even close to “we can literally only win if we have Marco specifically” that’s absurd beyond belief
Then again, this may have not happened…. yet. While it is possible that Marco is still alive and well, and not a baby, this doesn’t mean him reviving is not going to happen. He may join Luffy and the rest and eventually lose a fight and die. Then, due to his Devil Fruit’s power, he will revive just like a phoenix does, but will be reborn as a baby. I believe that there is a high chance of this happening. Firstly, it would make a great plot-twist, secondly, that way, Marco would get a second chance, to live his life anew. Marco has been through a lot, losing Thatch, Ace and Whitebeard.

So, if Marco died, which is quite possible; he deserves to start anew, his nickname and DF also imply he does.​
 

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Other than that...Marco being killed by Blackbeard would be a nice parallel with Whitebeard since his child died while still following and never forgeting Whitebeard.Now if he is going to die...who knows could happen.
 
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I don't agree Marco being the father of this kid with Makino.It's said that,that kid is the kid of "THAT" man...where "THAT" makes me think more of Shanks than Marco since Shanks clearly knew Makino very well.

Other than that...Marco being killed by Blackbeard would be a nice parallel with Whitebeard since his child died while still following and never forgeting Whitebeard.Now if he is going to die...who knows could happen.
You got this wrong. This theory suggests Marco IS the baby from the cover.
 

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You got this wrong. This theory suggests Marco IS the baby from the cover.
Ah silly me I just jumped on conclusion seeing Makino,did it fast to do my breakfast sorry for this then :/

Dunno,if he dies devil fruit goes as well.I believe that rebrith is more for fast recovery than just "respawning" as kid all the time,since literally he is immortal then? no?
 

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Ah silly me I just jumped on conclusion seeing Makino,did it fast to do my breakfast sorry for this then :/

Dunno,if he dies devil fruit goes as well.I believe that rebrith is more for fast recovery than just "respawning" as kid all the time,since literally he is immortal then? no?
The Phoenix DF implies he is reborn again, since BB more than probably consumed his DF after killing him (like he did to Whitebeard), he probably can respawn once but can't respawn over and over again since he lost his Phoenix zoan.

And why the fck are you having breakfast at 7 PM?
 

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The Phoenix DF implies he is reborn again, since BB more than probably consumed his DF after killing him (like he did to Whitebeard), he probably can respawn once but can't respawn over and over again since he lost his Phoenix zoan.

And why the fck are you having breakfast at 7 PM?
Well idk how would that work since BB would have 3 DF's which I find unlikely :)

I haven't eat anything whole day so that's a breakfast for me XD
 

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Well idk how would that work since BB would have 3 DF's which I find unlikely :)

I haven't eat anything whole day so that's a breakfast for me XD
A lot of factors imply BB will have 3 devil fruits. His jolly roger being the most obvious clue. And this is likely since he already has a Paramecia and Logia DF's. Zoan one is the logical last one.
 

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A lot of factors imply BB will have 3 devil fruits. His jolly roger being the most obvious clue. And this is likely since he already has a Paramecia and Logia DF's. Zoan one is the logical last one.
Who know's we'll see but I highly doubt it tbh
 

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Hmm, I don't think this is the case. I'm leaning more towards Marco joining Dragon, either after Wano or before wano.

Reason being is, it'd be weird if Oda doesn't do the whole Phoenix + Dragon (even though phoenix + dragon is usually a symbol of good marriage xD.), but just the idea of "Marco the PHOENIX" joins DRAGON the revolutionary.

2 mythical beasts, side by side.
 
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