[VS] War Arc Gaara VS EMS Sasuke

[Simbv]

I was thinking the same.

Amaterasu is useless to Gaara. Gaara is bound to know about Sasuke's genjutsu prowess. He buries himself underground or surrounds himself with massive sand and uses his eye technique(the name escapes me). This is a bad matchup for Sauce.

Sort of except I think Amaterasu is a bigger issue than you do.

It's not.

 

[Curse Mark]

Sort of except I think Amaterasu is a bigger issue than you do.

Why? We both agree he has the perfect counter to it.

 

[BLAZE]

Sort of except I think Amaterasu is a bigger issue than you do.

considering gaara wears a layer of sand armour i think he sheds it and counters amaterasu

 

[Curse Mark]

considering gaara wears a layer of sand armour i think he sheds it and counters amaterasu

We're talking about Shukaku

 

[NarutoX28]

considering gaara wears a layer of sand armour i think he sheds it and counters amaterasu

It's not as powerful as Raikage's Raiton Armor which gets consumed by Amaterasu let alone Enton.

From what the manga has shown, Gaara's Sand could never protect him from Madara's Katon which is still inferior to the most potent flames in existence.

 

[NarutoX28]

Why? We both agree he has the perfect counter to it.

The issue is is that it takes time and while Shukaku does squirm and attempts to shed that part off, Sasuke can just continue to engulf him in flames, slice him into pieces, or trap him in a genjutsu.

 

[Simbv]

It's not as powerful as Raikage's Raiton Armor which gets consumed by Amaterasu let alone Enton.

From what the manga has shown, Gaara's Sand could never protect him from Madara's Katon which is still inferior to the most potent flames in existence.

The same flame that didn't burn regular Samurai armor instantly somehow burns through Gaara's chakra enhanced sand armor before he can purge himself of it without any second thoughts?


Fanfiction

 

[NarutoX28]

The same flame that didn't burn regular Samurai armor instantly somehow burns through Gaara's chakra enhanced sand armor before he can purge himself of it without any second thoughts?


Fanfiction

That was an unfocused flame. Amaterasu only ignites on what the user is focusing on. Sasuke was not focusing on the Samurai and thus, it was an unfocused flame which is much less potent than Amaterasu.

I seriously hope you're not cherry-picking low-end feats, especially from an inexperienced MS user.

Comparing an inexperienced MS user to an EMS user who displays the same potential as EMS Madara, if not greater, is just fallacious.

 

[Simbv]

That was an unfocused flame. Amaterasu only ignites on what the user is focusing on. Sasuke was not focusing on the Samurai and thus, it was an unfocused flame which is much less potent than Amaterasu.

I seriously hope you're not cherry-picking low-end feats, especially from an inexperienced MS user.

Comparing an inexperienced MS user to an EMS user who displays the same potential as EMS Madara, if not greater, is just fallacious.

I'm not cherry picking. Nowhere in the manga does it state Amaterasu flames get hotter the more experience the user has. Yeah sure Sasuke is much better at controlling his flames since he acquired EMS. But at that point, everyone on the battle field could avoid Amaterasu some way or another.(Not counting the war fodders). Unless he combines his Amaterasu with Chidori or an Susuanoo Arrow, regular Amaterasu can't damage Gaara in any way.

 

[NarutoX28]

I'm not cherry picking. Nowhere in the manga does it state Amaterasu flames get hotter the more experience the user has. Yeah sure Sasuke is much better at controlling his flames since he acquired EMS. But at that point, everyone on the battle field could avoid Amaterasu some way or another.(Not counting the war fodders). Unless he combines his Amaterasu with Chidori or an Susuanoo Arrow, regular Amaterasu can't damage Gaara in any way.

Let me ask you this.

Is Amaterasu a ninjutsu technique?

If it is, then EMS Sasuke's Amaterasu would be more potent because EMS Sasuke possesses a more potent chakra compared to MS Sasuke and Chakra Potency greatly enhances one's ninjutsu techniques as stated by Pa which is why Sage Mode enhances everyone's abilities.

Let me ask you this? Do you think Rikudou Sasuke's Amaterasu would have the same effect as MS Sasuke's? To me, that just doesn't make sense at all.

 

[Simbv]

Let me ask you this.

Is Amaterasu a ninjutsu technique?

If it is, then EMS Sasuke's Amaterasu would be more potent because EMS Sasuke possesses a more potent chakra compared to MS Sasuke and Chakra Potency greatly enhances one's ninjutsu techniques as stated by Pa which is why Sage Mode enhances everyone's abilities.

Let me ask you this? Do you think Rikudou Sasuke's Amaterasu would have the same effect as MS Sasuke's? To me, that just doesn't make sense at all.

Agreed.

But my point still stands that Gaara would be able to defend against it or shrug it off once it hits. You seem to be the only one here who thinks otherwise.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sasuke still wins. Genjutsu or Amaterasu is the reason why.

Gaara was already shown to be able to block Amaterasu with his sand.
Also, Shukaku would be able to purge his body just like the Juubi since he is made of sand.

That was Enton you clown.

 

[Simbv]

Sasuke still wins. Genjutsu or Amaterasu is the reason why.

That was Enton you clown.

Enton is the ability to control.................. Flames of Amterasu.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Absolutely nothing implies he can. Otherwise Madara would have made a bigger Susano'O against the Tailed Beasts instead of getting bodied

Your basically saying he can make his legged Susano'O as strong as his PS



Your still not proving your argument at all. Edo Madara's Susano is still stronger than Sasuke's, so him not being at full power is irrelevant.

I really do not have to prove my point. you have to. All through the manga, chakra size has not affected susanoo size. Saying kurama chakra somehow affected sasuke's legged susanoo size while senjutsu chakra didn't is fanfiction until you prove it isn't

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

This is actually ridiculous. People thinking gaara actually wins. PS doesn't make much difference.

Sasuke has got legged susanoo. Short of Bijuu dama, nothing gaara has can penetrate susanoo. Sasuke can just dodge TBB so gaara would need a massive setup to land TBB.

lightening > sand. so kirin would absolutely negg gaara and shukaku.

Amaterasu would be effective but not in killing gaara. Gaara has sand shield over his skin. He sheds that but as we know, sand shield is gaara's most chakra taxing tech. spamming ama would wear out gaara. It's debatable whether gaara's sand would be able to react to susanoo arrows.

Sasuke can take control of shukaku with sharingan. So why is this really a discussion. If sasuke uses genjutsu on shukaku at the right time. gaara dies.

Really all gaara/shukaku have to penetrate susanoo is TBB so how do they win?

 

[Simbv]

This is actually ridiculous. People thinking gaara actually wins. PS doesn't make much difference.

Sasuke has got legged susanoo. Short of Bijuu dama, nothing gaara has can penetrate susanoo. Sasuke can just dodge TBB so gaara would need a massive setup to land TBB.

lightening > sand. so kirin would absolutely negg gaara and shukaku.

Amaterasu would be effective but not in killing gaara. Gaara has sand shield over his skin. He sheds that but as we know, sand shield is gaara's most chakra taxing tech. spamming ama would wear out gaara. It's debatable whether gaara's sand would be able to react to susanoo arrows.

Sasuke can take control of shukaku with sharingan. So why is this really a discussion. If sasuke uses genjutsu on shukaku at the right time. gaara dies.

Really all gaara/shukaku have to penetrate susanoo is TBB so how do they win?

Gaara can bury underground , Gaara created a desert around him as a 12 year old. Imagine what he can do now. He simply fluds the battlefield with sand and picks Sasuke apart while he is underground. He doesn't have to even break Susanoo(which he probably can) since he has sealing abilities. This is me not even trying to argue, this is a bad matchup for Sasuke. Don't be so salty.

 

[4 Sword Style]

What


Size= Power now :lol So according to you Saukes V3=Sasuke V4 becoz of size

It was shown as pysical equals to Naruto's chakra avatar, and going by VOTE Sasuke's PS is equals with Naruto's avatar.

So yes, saying he can make that without cloak is like saying he can make his standing Susano'O as strong as PS

 

[BLAZE]

It was shown as pysical equals to Naruto's chakra avatar

Nvr said his Legged susanoo equals to BSM Naruto :lol.Just said he can make susanoo of that size
Size not equals power

BSM Naruto nukes EMS Sasuke easily

 

[shelke]

Sasuke nukes Gaara with Enton Magatama and arrows. He charges the BD? It's easily interrupted with a focused flame and it blows up in Gaara's face. Genjutsu creates a lag of a couple of seconds before someone is woken up (assuming that it is even PJ Gaara), and Sasuke bombards Gaara with more Enton.

Shikuku's sand couldn't even contain a lesser Susanoo in, V4 gets out with Enton sword without a hitch. He gets slaughtered easily. Laughable, this fanfiction Gaara fanbase.

 

[4 Sword Style]

Nvr said his Legged susanoo equals to BSM Naruto :lol.Just said he can make susanoo of that size
Size not equals power

BSM Naruto nukes EMS Sasuke easily

*edit: you don't need to say it. The manga showed them as equals, and Sasuke's PS matches Naruto's avatar. So for all intents an purposes, that standing Susano'O with the cloaks boost was as strong as his PS since it was equal to Narutos avatar