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I have been wondering about this and i will say its Tsunade she made Sakura from useless to a skilled medic ninja who was capable of fighting on frontlines in dire situations....Sakura had nothing in the beginning apart from chakra control...Tsunade honed that and taught her the Byakugo, Summoning, medic ninjutsu, CES......i don't think any other teacher had been more successful in transforming a student to such an extent.........what do you guys say......?
 

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Tsunade's training being successful is more a testament to Sakura's ability than Tsunade's teaching. Or else Shizune would be much stronger.
 

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Jiraiya has been making Hokage: Naruto and Minato. Nagato doesn't count, but he was a leader of a village (Rain).
 

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J man is the best Sensei. He was the most commited man ever and he was very sucessful.

In order to make Naruto grow he opened the seal a bit to let Naruto try to control the Kyubi chakra. Taught him the summoning jutsu, Rasengan(Naruto's most crucial jutsu), and some life skills.

If any sensei deserves credit it's Jiraiya, he made Naruto from fodder to someone that was able to compete with Sasuke Uchiha, a shinobi from the Leaf's most outstanding clan.

Jiraiya also trained Nagato. Look at the extent to which he brought him up. Nagato knew nothing about ninjutsu and then after he gets trained by Jiraiya years later, he calls himself God.

Well guess what Jiraiya trains his students to the max level.
 

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Guy, followed by kakashi.
A) guy
1. lee had no talent at all, even more useless than sakura now he is one of the best taijutsu users in the series.


B) kakashi
2. taught sauce how to use the copy image of lee to improve speed, learned chidori, trained naruto to master shadow clones and learned FRS.
 

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Jiraiya has been making Hokage: Naruto and Minato. Nagato doesn't count, but he was a leader of a village (Rain).

This^^ J-Man is the man.
 

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Jiraiya has been making Hokage: Naruto and Minato. Nagato doesn't count, but he was a leader of a village (Rain).

not minato. jiraiya even quoted to tsunade that he barely did anything with minato cause he was such a genius.
 

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I can get behind this

But otherwise my answer is Jiraiya.

Smh Kakashi you should have done much better

You say Gai is a good sensei but yet say that Kakashi is a bad one. I don't get it, I have always thought both Senseis to be equal.

As a sensei isn't your responsibility to teach/improve the abilities of the whole team. What exactly did Gai do with Neji and Tenten again? Did he make them run 500 laps around the black top while he paid attention to Lee only. Not sure how you are saying Kakashi could've been better considering the circumstances.

Sakura wasn't adaptable to his teaching style so why bother teaching a fodder who was more into love than ninjutsu. This was not his fault. He gave Naruto in the hands of Jiraiya because honestly though he knew how to create the Rasengan, Naruto bored him to death with his simplicity.

Don't tell me he didn't do anything for Sasuke and one more thing failing to stop Sasuke at his path of Revenge isn't his fault either because Saduke was hellbent on leaving to get power from Orochimaru.

What I find very ironic is that people praise Gai so much yet neglect Kakashi. Does Gai's team or any other team have the necessary teamwork skills.

Oh I forgot the dude was there for Naruto in Part 2 when he needed him the most.
 

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You say Gai is a good sensei but yet say that Kakashi is a bad one. I don't get it, I have always thought both Senseis to be equal.

As a sensei isn't your responsibility to teach/improve the abilities of the whole team. What exactly did Gai do with Neji and Tenten again? Did he make them run 500 laps around the black top while he paid attention to Lee only. Not sure how you are saying Kakashi could've been better considering the circumstances.

Sakura wasn't adaptable to his teaching style so why bother teaching a fodder who was more into love than ninjutsu. This was not his fault. He gave Naruto in the hands of Jiraiya because honestly though he knew how to create the Rasengan, Naruto bored him to death with his simplicity.

Don't tell me he didn't do anything for Sasuke and one more thing failing to stop Sasuke at his path of Revenge isn't his fault either because Saduke was hellbent on leaving to get power from Orochimaru.

What I find very ironic is that people praise Gai so much yet neglect Kakashi. Does Gai's team or any other team have the necessary teamwork skills.

Oh I forgot the dude was there for Naruto in Part 2 when he needed him the most.

It's the very simple fact that Kakashi was only ever interested in training Sasuke when he was in the village, and never gave a damn about Naruto or Sakura's growth. That's why he had Ebisu, a total slacker and perverted fodder train him instead. He also never even considered to train or give Sakura any tips when they were still in the village together while Naruto was off with Jiraiya.

It was only until Sasuke left that he decided to focus on Naruto, but that was mainly due to Jiraiya's busyness in investigating the Akatsuki.

Don't tell me that someone who favors one student over the other is in the same league as someone who actually cares about making all of their students strong.
 

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You say Gai is a good sensei but yet say that Kakashi is a bad one. I don't get it, I have always thought both Senseis to be equal.

As a sensei isn't your responsibility to teach/improve the abilities of the whole team. What exactly did Gai do with Neji and Tenten again? Did he make them run 500 laps around the black top while he paid attention to Lee only. Not sure how you are saying Kakashi could've been better considering the circumstances.

Sakura wasn't adaptable to his teaching style so why bother teaching a fodder who was more into love than ninjutsu. This was not his fault. He gave Naruto in the hands of Jiraiya because honestly though he knew how to create the Rasengan, Naruto bored him to death with his simplicity.

Don't tell me he didn't do anything for Sasuke and one more thing failing to stop Sasuke at his path of Revenge isn't his fault either because Saduke was hellbent on leaving to get power from Orochimaru.

What I find very ironic is that people praise Gai so much yet neglect Kakashi. Does Gai's team or any other team have the necessary teamwork skills.

Oh I forgot the dude was there for Naruto in Part 2 when he needed him the most.

Well, excepting stuff to do with Sasuke turning evil, specifically...

I don't even blame Kakashi for Sakura. She specialized almost entirely in things that were better learned elsewhere.

Gai training Lee runs on the same logic as Sasuke training Kakashi; they specialize in the same areas, so it makes sense. Neji's a genius and unless his trainer is a Hyuuga, no one can probably train him better than he can train himself; we don't know anything about Tenten but she was arguably the best rookie kunoichi of Konoha during the Chuunin exams (her shurikenjutsu excels, Hinata is probably in second place with her taijutsu). So there's no reason to say Gai was anything less than perfectly competent.

As far as we know, Team Gai was pretty good at cooperation. We know Neji and Lee respected each other; Tenten gets along fine with them even if she gets frustrated by their rivalry. There wasn't some inferiority complex dynamic going on like there was in Team 7. When Lee was feeling inferior, Gai resolved it. As a sensei, Kakashi should have been able to perceive such things better and resolve them accordingly. Team Gai did perfectly fine during the Chuunin exams.

Gai instilled a very important lesson into Lee about protecting one's friends that's going to stay with him forever. Whatever Sasuke learned about things like friendship, he probably learned from Naruto, except for that one moment in like the first couple of chapters in the manga.

In the last bit of the manga Kakashi has to remind himself to keep pushing along with his team against Kaguya. Why in the hell does Kakashi have confidence issues? Gai would have been in there, no hesitation.

They're both good sensei, but Gai is great.
 
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It's the very simple fact that Kakashi was only ever interested in training Sasuke when he was in the village, and never gave a damn about Naruto or Sakura's growth. That's why he had Ebisu, a total slacker and perverted fodder train him instead. He also never even considered to train or give Sakura any tips when they were still in the village together while Naruto was off with Jiraiya.

It was only until Sasuke left that he decided to focus on Naruto, but that was mainly due to Jiraiya's busyness in investigating the Akatsuki.

Don't tell me that someone who favors one student over the other is in the same league as someone who actually cares about making all of their students strong.

Both squad leaders cared about their overall student's abilities. It is just that Team Gai never got much development due to Team Kakashi being the center focus point. As a squad leader they were both able to find a student they related to. Kakashi with Sasuke and Gai with Lee. You say he cared about Neji's development then why was he left to train with Hiashi? It is because he was not compatible with the Hyuga's Taijutsu, the same way how Kakashi didn't know how to deal with Sakura.

Teamwork itself plays a huge importance. Without teamwork do you honestly think that Naruto and Sasuke would've been able to use a combo attack to free Zabuza. So what if it wasn't one on one training at least Naruto improved in his teamwork with Sasuke and he learned not to go in the direction of obvious traps.

He gave Sakura a tip to work on her Genjutsu skills. This was during that Introduction Arc when he used regular genjutsu on her. Ever since then Sakura can dispel genjutsus as shown when Kabuto's genjutsu was dispelled.

Bottom line is both of the senseis sought to make their students strong. It is just that if Gai were placed in Kakashi's shoes he would do the same.
 

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It's the very simple fact that Kakashi was only ever interested in training Sasuke when he was in the village, and never gave a damn about Naruto or Sakura's growth. That's why he had Ebisu, a total slacker and perverted fodder train him instead. He also never even considered to train or give Sakura any tips when they were still in the village together while Naruto was off with Jiraiya.

It was only until Sasuke left that he decided to focus on Naruto, but that was mainly due to Jiraiya's busyness in investigating the Akatsuki.

Don't tell me that someone who favors one student over the other is in the same league as someone who actually cares about making all of their students strong.

yeah, kakashi admitted sasuke was special to him the same way orochi was to hiruzen.
 

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Both squad leaders cared about their overall student's abilities. It is just that Team Gai never got much development due to Team Kakashi being the center focus point. As a squad leader they were both able to find a student they related to. Kakashi with Sasuke and Gai with Lee.

It doesn't really matter if they're the focal point or not. If they're the focal point then they should be in sync, but it didn't seem that way in the beginning and even in early Shippuden.

You say he cared about Neji's development then why was he left to train with Hiashi?
Do you honestly believe that Neji cared about being trained by Gai, and do you honestly believe that someone like Gai can teach a Hyuga? The only thing that Gai did for Neji was probably the basic squad drills, but Neji never repeatedly asked his sensei to train him. Neji didn't care for training by Gai because he was doing his own personal Hyuga training and sometimes Tenten would assist in his routines.

Naruto has asked Kakashi at least twice to train him before and he always turned him away and focused on Sasuke. While it is true that Gai shares a lot in common with Lee, I don't remember his students ever asking for special training and then being rejected just because of their own bias.

It is because he was not compatible with the Hyuga's Taijutsu,
Clearly that is the only reason, and don't tell me that Kakashi could not train Naruto because he is an Uzumaki because it should have been clear that Kakashi had the necessary tools to help Naruto.

the same way how Kakashi didn't know how to deal with Sakura.
Honestly, Sakura was a lost cause and it was partially or more her fault as she actually didn't care about getting stronger, only after Sauce left the village, so I guess Kakashi is not to blame for Sakura's lack of responsibility as a ninja.

Teamwork itself plays a huge importance. Without teamwork do you honestly think that Naruto and Sasuke would've been able to use a combo attack to free Zabuza. So what if it wasn't one on one training at least Naruto improved in his teamwork with Sasuke and he learned not to go in the direction of obvious traps.
Okay? Not doubting teamwork.

He gave Sakura a tip to work on her Genjutsu skills. This was during that Introduction Arc when he used regular genjutsu on her. Ever since then Sakura can dispel genjutsus as shown when Kabuto's genjutsu was dispelled.
He never gave her a tip. Kakashi just commented on Sakura being the only one to dispell Kabuto's Genjutsu. He was more impressed than giving advice.

Bottom line is both of the senseis sought to make their students strong. It is just that if Gai were placed in Kakashi's shoes he would do the same.
Bottom line is that Kakashi has more negative points than Gai and hypothetical situations are irrelevant.
 
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Orochimaru trained the best Rinnegan user
 

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Well, excepting stuff to do with Sasuke turning evil, specifically...

I don't even blame Kakashi for Sakura. She specialized almost entirely in things that were better learned elsewhere.

Agreed with the Sakura bit. Tsunade was the best teacher for her anyways.

Gai training Lee runs on the same logic as Sasuke training Kakashi; they specialize in the same areas, so it makes sense. Neji's a genius and unless his trainer is a Hyuuga, no one can probably train him better than he can train himself; we don't know anything about Tenten but she was arguably the best rookie kunoichi of Konoha during the Chuunin exams (her shurikenjutsu excels, Hinata is probably in second place with her taijutsu). So there's no reason to say Gai was anything less than perfectly competent.

I think you misunderstood my original post. In no way was I bashing Gai sensei. He was an awesome sensei and I really liked the way he considered Lee like his own son and taught him everything there is too know about Taijutsu.

As far as Neji goes no matter how much of a genius they may be a squad leader has to take responsibility of all of his students. Neji was training by himself and with Hiashi. For this reason is why I am not getting why Kakashi is getting backlash. If there is a better Sensei that is more compatible with that student then why is it the main sensei's fault that he let the student go. Kakashi giving Naruto in the hands of Jiraiya was a great move in my opinion.

As far as we know, Team Gai was pretty good at cooperation. We know Neji and Lee respected each other; Tenten gets along fine with them even if she gets frustrated by their rivalry. There wasn't some inferiority complex dynamic going on like there was in Team 7. When Lee was feeling inferior, Gai resolved it. As a sensei, Kakashi should have been able to perceive such things better and resolve them accordingly. Team Gai did perfectly fine during the Chuunin exams.

Hold up, I wouldn't say Gai nipped anything in the bud. Intially Lee was inferior to Neji and he resolved it by teaching him the Gates I get it but where was Gai when Neji was butthurt about feeling inferior to Lee. Neji was like "Lee how far have you gotten". See the problem is that Kishi never expanded upon resolving this issue when. It is unclear if Gai ever resolved the inferiority complex between both of the chars. Somehow they were just shown to be the best of friends after the Chunin Exam Arc right before the Sasuke Retrieval Arc. As a sensei you also have to observe your shortcomings, Kakashi admits that which is why I actually respect him as a Sensei.

Gai instilled a very important lesson into Lee about protecting one's friends that's going to stay with him forever. Whatever Sasuke learned about things like friendship, he probably learned from Naruto, except for that one moment in like the first couple of chapters in the manga.

In the last bit of the manga Kakashi has to remind himself to keep pushing along with his team against Kaguya. Why in the hell does Kakashi have confidence issues? Gai would have been in there, no hesitation.

They're both good sensei, but Gai is great.

How is Kakashi responsible for Sasuke errotic actions? First off he is very unpredictable so there is some obvious confidence issues with him. Does he have confidence in Naruto and Sakura, hell yes because they won't attempt to chop his head off. Again does Gai have a student who is looking for revenge. I think it's only fair we judge these two Senseis seperate because they were under different circumstances coming in.
 

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Jiraya definitely
And also third hokage who produce legendary sannin
 
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