Theory of Win/loss

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So I know someone who assumes that because Danzo made short work with Shisui, that Sasuke could easily rape Shisui even with KA.

They theorize that because Shisui knew the value of his KA he would likely not use it against Sasuke unless he really needed too, thus giving Sasuke ample time to defeat him, because Sasuke molested Danzo at close range, and Danzo was able to pull out Shisui's eye.

What do you think about train of logic? A > B and B > C, so A must be > C.

I think it comes down to the fighting style mostly.
 
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It so many possibilities how they fight could have gone down, but I still see Danzo at a higher chance of losing more than Sasuke.
 

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It so many possibilities how they fight could have gone down, but I still see Danzo at a higher chance of losing more than Sasuke.

Shisui still had one KA left, but if Danzo had all of his eyes on his arm, Shisui's fighting style was still at a disadvantage against Danzo. Sasuke had a lot of strong hits for Danzo, Shisui relied on his Genjutsu in tight spots.

That being said, I still believe Sasuke would have a hard time dealing with Shisui, unless he learned Izanagi. Danzo was a master of tricks, and Sasuke was able to tank it. However, if someone can out speed Sasuke, as Madara did, Sasuke can lose. Speed didn't really matter with Danzo, they fought a lot like the 2nd Hokage. He would bait his opponent into thinking he had won, then fake him out.
 
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Shisui still had one KA left, but if Danzo had all of his eyes on his arm, Shisui's fighting style was still at a disadvantage against Danzo. Sasuke had a lot of strong hits for Danzo, Shisui relied on his Genjutsu in tight spots.

Are we talking about Shisui?

Shisui was for the cause IMO, which is why I think he didn't put up much of a fight.

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However, if Shisui was serious, I think he would have given Danzo some difficulty. Although, the outcome would possibly be the same IMO.
 

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Are we talking about Shisui?

Shisui was for the cause IMO, which is why I think he didn't put up much of a fight.

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However, if Shisui was serious, I think he would have given Danzo some difficulty. Although, the outcome would possibly be the same IMO.

Yeah, I agree.

That point was that just because Danzo would have done well against Shisui, doesn't mean Sasuke would. It just irritates me when people use that kind of logic.
 

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Sasuke negs both if it's just a far fight with full health
 

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Shisui going down against danzo is the most bizzare thing i have seen in naruto. that guy is best body flickr and genjutsu user in NV and still being soloed most probably felt like taken down by plot. If we stick to manga facts Yes sasuke owns shisui if go by logic shisui is the powerful than sasuke.
 

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Shisui going down against danzo is the most bizzare thing i have seen in naruto. that guy is best body flickr and genjutsu user in NV and still being soloed most probably felt like taken down by plot. If we stick to manga facts Yes sasuke owns shisui if go by logic shisui is the powerful than sasuke.

I agree, it was pretty cheap to make someone so powerful fall to the hands of a second rate villain. However, the manga gods dictate what happened, and it wasn't good for Shisui.

I still think Shisui takes Sasuke with speed feats.
 

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That's a very idiotic way of looking at things as each character has a unique skill set that is countered to different lengths by differing characters.For instance,ms sasuke beat deidara mid-diff and the consensus on the base is ms sasuke =/< to sage mode naruto but in my opinion deidara mops the floor with naruto because of c2 mines and c4 karura.so no A > B, B > C doesn't mean mean A > C is automatic
 

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Just because Sasuke beat Danzo doesn't mean he could beat Shisui easily. It's like the starters in Pokémon. If grass beats water it still can't beat fire.
 
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