"Enton has no mass" lol

[NarutoX28]

Are you retarded? Gravity can push people back despite having zero mass
Fire has mass

I don't need to disprove anything as I never claimed anything

Katon =/= gravity, therefore, your comparison is fallacious.

 

[ComplexCity]

Katon =/= gravity, therefore, your comparison is fallacious.

It's like you don't even know what to say

Gravity functions the same way as Katon does.

Why are you telling me stuff I already know? I asked you why would you state this?

Not true. Madara's Katon pushed back SM Naruto:

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If it had no mass, why is it pushing him back?

And then go on to say something different? What in God's name doesn't apply the two masses together upon impact? Do you really know what you're typing right now?

You're saying the fire has mass therefore that's why Naruto was forced back (mass of the fire + mass of Naruto). The argument is faulty because ST that Naruto back despite having zero mass

 

[shelke]

Haha, This thread.

 

[ComplexCity]

And again, who says I'm comparing ST to Katon?

 

[NarutoX28]

And then go on to say something different? What in God's name doesn't apply the two masses together upon impact? Do you really know what you're typing right now?

Katon's force isn't dependent on an object's mass. In this case, it's dependent on the user's proficiency and the amount of chakra dispersed into the attack.

Again, what you're saying doesn't make sense.

 

[ComplexCity]

Katon's force isn't dependent on an object's mass. In this case, it's dependent on the user's proficiency and the amount of chakra dispersed into the attack.

Again, what you're saying doesn't make sense.

You're gasping at straws and missing literally the entire point of my post because you're so admant to disprove me, that you're not even thinking correctly. So you're telling me a Katon of the same size done to Naruto would be able to push back the Juubi despite the Juubi's mass >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naruto's?


Remember you said it's not dependent on the target's mass

 

[NarutoX28]

You're gasping at straws and missing literally the entire point of my post because you're so admant to disprove me, that you're not even thinking correctly. So you're telling me a Katon of the same size done to Naruto would be able to push back the Juubi despite the Juubi's mass >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Naruto's?


Remember you said it's not dependent on the target's mass

No, I'm saying the gravitational force exerted on an object depends on the object's mass.

This is basic Physics and should actually be known within your first year of physics. The only thing the effect of the mass of the opposing object has on Katon is its acceleration. The force exerted by the Katon will be exactly the same, but the outcome would be different. That's not the case with gravity.

 

[NarutoX28]

Haha, This thread.

I didn't expect to be so involved with this thread, but here I am ...

 

[shelke]

I didn't expect to be so involved with this thread, but here I am ...

This will never go anywhere. If you like running around in circles, then go for it.

 

[ComplexCity]

I know I'm not speaking latin, are you slow in the mind my boy?

No, I'm saying the gravitational force exerted on an object depends on the object's mass

Which I never denied or brought up as it's irrevlevant to the disscusion

This is basic Physics and should actually be known within your first year of physics

Irrelevant

The only thing the effect of the mass of the opposing object has on Katon is its acceleration

Never stated otherwise

The force exerted by the Katon will be exactly the same, but the outcome would be different. That's not the case with gravity

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd never state this



This is what you stated

Not true. Madara's Katon pushed back SM Naruto:

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If it had no mass, why is it pushing him back?

Due to people saying that Katon is mass-less. This is what I said

I don't get your point then. ST repels people and gravity supposedly doesn't have mass

Then you said

Gravity functions the same way as Katon does.

Which is fallacious



I will try one more time to be as coherent as possible. In regards to you asking this question

Not true. Madara's Katon pushed back SM Naruto:

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If it had no mass, why is it pushing him back?

This argument can not be made. I'm have a strong assumption that you were asking this (with 100%) certainty because this was said

That isn't true, chakra doesnt have mass

You were trying to prove that Katon does indeed have mass because Force(Mass x Acceleration) in the Katon was able to push Naruto back. What I'm trying to explain to you is that Shinrah Tensei does not have mass to move people however, it is capable of doing so. THROUGH GRAVITY. I am aware what is calculated with ST to determine it's impact on the target and not once did I disagree with the fact that Katon has mass.

 

[NarutoX28]

I'm genuinely confused. Katon doesn't manipulate gravity, so it didn't repel Naruto through gravity.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

lol. Nobody is arguing about which is stronger. you stupidly argued about enton lacking mass and comparing it to lightening like they are different. If lightening can be solidified in NV then fire doing the same is not unbelievable. hope you and the rest understand this.

Not to the same extent obviously as it's been shown. Same for irl. If you can't connect the dots it's not my problem.

 

[ComplexCity]

I'm genuinely confused. Katon doesn't manipulate gravity, so it didn't repel Naruto through gravity.

I know that it didn't and I don't know why you're thinking that

You asked why the Katon pushed Naruto back if it doesn't mass. I'm telling you that ST has the ability to do so without having any Mass

 

[NarutoX28]

I know that it didn't and I don't know why you're thinking that

You asked why the Katon pushed Naruto back if it doesn't mass. I'm telling you that ST has the ability to do so without having any Mass

That's because ST manipulates gravity. Katon doesn't.

 

[ComplexCity]

That's because ST manipulates gravity. Katon doesn't.

And you're still missing the point.....


I'll leave this here. I'm done banging my KB against my head

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[Waltz]

NarutoX28 the answer to his question is that gravity the weakest known force is composed of hypothetical elementary particles on the quantum scale; who's mass are unknown and if they do have a mass they're expected to be mass-less because the gravitational force appears to have unlimited range where as Enton is an object of mass and we know it has mass because any object that has no mass must constantly move at the speed of light. ​

 

[ComplexCity]

NarutoX28 the answer to his question is that gravity the weakest known force is composed of hypothetical elementary particles on the quantum scale; who's mass are unknown and if they do have a mass they're expected to be mass-less because the gravitational force appears to have unlimited range where as Enton is an object of mass and we know it has mass because any object that has no mass must constantly move at the speed of light. ​

Interesting... So gravity may or may not have mass I didn't know that. Can you explain why Totsuka would have the capability of moving back an object despite being a spiritual weapon?

 

[Waltz]

Interesting... So gravity may or may not have mass I didn't know that

Yeah, It shouldn't have mass because the gravitational force seemingly unlimited range and has to be a specific spin-boson based on the stress energy tensor which is a tensor quantity that describes the density and flux of energy and momentum in spacetime; more or less generalizing Newton's stress tensor. ​

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Interesting... So gravity may or may not have mass I didn't know that. Can you explain why Totsuka would have the capability of moving back an object despite being a spiritual weapon?

The answer to all these questions is simple. It's a fictional universe. Whatever kishi pens is law.

 

[ComplexCity]

The answer to all these questions is simple. It's a fictional universe. Whatever kishi pens is law.

X28 made an invalid point and I was just there to let him know that. I don't know what you mean. Kishi sometimes applies real world things in his manga