Does Hagormoo have potential ocular genjutsu feat?

[Rikudou Tobi]

Just realizing now we know that Hagormoo has life energy capabilities given the feats of other juubi jinchuuriki showcasing it for him. Life energy (flame pattern) chakra arms, mokuton, and even truth seeking orbs are all traits commonly known by Ashura incarnates the yang side of Hagormoo. Even before becoming JJ, after inheriting powers from his juubi mom, he was still able to replicate yang feats such as tsb without having the juubi in him. Hamura too.

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Now the big question is, what is the Yin side of hagormoo?
Here is what we know about Hagormoo, his son's incarnates, and their clan power.

Indra chakra+Ashura chakra=Hagoromoo's chakra.
Indra himself was born with spiritual energy/power and his father's chakra naturally. While Ashura has the the life energy of his father later blossoming natural energy through harsh training and companions. In basic bitch terms. Indra= Spiritual yin energy+hagormoo chakra. Ashura= Physical energy yang+RSM.

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We know that hagormoo's powers were divided into two clans, Uchihas inheriting the Yin power of the sage while the Senjus inherit the yang power of the sage.

Six Paths: The secret technique forming all creation out of nothingness and giving it life.

↓ Spiritual and physical energy. That is Yin-Yang Release.

"Yin Release", which creates form out of nothingness and "Yang Release", which breathes life into form. The one with the skill to manipulate those two attributes, the Sage of Six Paths Hagoromo Otsutsuki, developed the "Creation of All Things Technique". He also created the nine bodies of the Tailed Beasts out of the Ten-Tails chakra, making them gifts of Yin-Yang Release. After this, the Uchiha Clan inherited Yin Release and the Senju Clan inherited Yang Release.

The Clan Of The Sage Of Six Path's Lineage

Tracing back to the genesis of Ninja, Senju and Uchiha;s thread of connection. Both Clans take the Sage of Six Path as their founder, and strongly inherit that power.

↑ Moreover, Hashirama and Madara are the reincarnations of the the Sage of Six Paths's sons Ashura and Indra, respectively.

Respectively both clans inherit the split powers of the sage and see him as the founder of each of their clans, however the incarnates are the only ones to gain the rinnegan or rsm of the sage (Eyes and body).
Soooo to get to my point, the sage's "body" and "yang" part is basically within our concept of yang incarnate including clan potential, but what about the "Yin" part of the sage?
He has the rinnegan, not the sharingan like Indra and his clan. If the Uchiha inherited the yin power of the sage, that would mean the sage is capable of preforming an ocular genjutsu with his rinnegan like Sasuke, right?

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Everything Naruto / Sasuke can do thanks to Rinnegan/Rikudo Senjutsu Hagoromo can do on bigger level.

 

[Gerkak]

Hogoromo's type of rinnegan can't use ocular genjutsu, this isn't to say he may not be be good with genjutsu as there are other methods to use that branch of jutsu.

 

[Peace Maker]

lol all i know is that ems is the last thing that makes your swirl and stuff, once you got to rinnegan thats it. unless you became the juubis jinchuriki and you would have his eyes as the ultimate eye in naruto, my mistake, unless hagoromo gave you his eyes just like what obito did too and you could inherit it

 

[Seventh Sama]

No, as far as we know. The rinnegan doesn't grant special genjutsu abilities but that doesn't mean hagoromo sucked at genjutsu. iirc genjutsu requires the user to have a high intelligence and hagoromo fits the bill so who knows?

 

[SenseiSama]

He can use genjutsu without dojutsu but he doesn't have Sharingan feats because Sharingan is Indra's KKG. He also had a stronger Yang affinity hence why he was given the Yang seal when fighting Kaguya. He had potential for ocular genjutsu as a JuubiJin but he used a seal to prevent himself from awakening the RinneSharingan

 

[Kurama62]

He can use genjutsu without dojutsu but he doesn't have Sharingan feats because Sharingan is Indra's KKG. He also had a stronger Yang affinity hence why he was given the Yang seal when fighting Kaguya. He had potential for ocular genjutsu as a JuubiJin but he used a seal to prevent himself from awakening the RinneSharingan

I can agree upon that :gn:

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Hogoromo's type of rinnegan can't use ocular genjutsu, this isn't to say he may not be be good with genjutsu as there are other methods to use that branch of jutsu.

So what Yin properties does he have? Yin energy is genjutsu based.

No, as far as we know. The rinnegan doesn't grant special genjutsu abilities but that doesn't mean hagoromo sucked at genjutsu. iirc genjutsu requires the user to have a high intelligence and hagoromo fits the bill so who knows?

So you don't know if Hagoromoo has genjutsu or not?

He can use genjutsu without dojutsu but he doesn't have Sharingan feats because Sharingan is Indra's KKG. He also had a stronger Yang affinity hence why he was given the Yang seal when fighting Kaguya. He had potential for ocular genjutsu as a JuubiJin but he used a seal to prevent himself from awakening the RinneSharingan

Hagormoo ended up with the Yin seal when Hamura went off to the moon. And when he had the yin seal, that didn't mean his genjutsu was better than hagormoo. Especially when Hamura had a byukagan. Indra may had a sharingan with his kkg but that power came from Hagormoo in the first place.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Everything Naruto / Sasuke can do thanks to Rinnegan/Rikudo Senjutsu Hagoromo can do on bigger level.

Not sure how he can go bigger than the exact power he gave away :bdpf:

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Not sure how he can go bigger than the exact power he gave away :bdpf:

more chakra + Rikudo senjutsu as buff to his Rinnegan.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

more chakra + Rikudo senjutsu as buff to his Rinnegan.

I suppose the middle ground fits. They only surpass hagoromo in individual parts, Naruto's yang is greater than Hagoromo's individual yang and Sasuke's yin stronger than Hagiromo's yin. But you are right Hagoromo as an individual would still have more strength as his yin and yang combine way offsets any additives to Naruto's yang like Kurama and Sasuke's yin.