i think itachi assisted minato a bit.... and i think itachi is the one who gave the information to the upper echelons of konoha that the culprit is indeed an uchia.... and i think that itachi saw that "masked man" again years after the kyuubi incident, he suspected that the "masked man" is plotting another attempt to destroy konoha..so he sought the"masked man" out and negotiate...the result is uchia massacre....
[Predictions] Naruto Manga 501 Discussion and 502 Predictions
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minatoisagod
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the fourth kicks ass don't care what anyone says he's the strongest Hokage. I mean the fist and his wife trapped the fox first yet when the fourth put him Naruto he hated the forth even more and has a slight respect for him never seen him mentioning the first with so much hatred. Madara is a SOB but that just makes him a better villain now and his downfall will be all the better. Its funny how the darkest day in the leaf village's history brought about their most significant figures i.e Naruto, Sasuke, Itachi and Minato that will all contribute to Madara's defeat. Sorry to all the fourth doubters but u gotta give the guy props not only did he save the village his son and wife (for a brief moment) the man planned ahead with his sealing the fox in naruto in case Madara returened now thats bad ass. J-man you truly trained the greatest ninja in the Leaf Village's history, only to now be surpassed by his heir. RIP kunisha and minato
Dragon Lord
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thank you, but your wrong, sharingan and rinnegan most probably came from jyuubi!!, there is the second possibility that the eyes of the jyuubi was a manfistation of the so6p's control over it, but very very slight possibility!
anyway, i had another theory stating that the sage of the six paths could have been partly demon, thats why he alone could create ninjutsu and could defeat the great tentailed!
and its probable that gedomazo is the mother of all demons, it might be the thing that gave birth to jyuubi, and therefore the only way to rebirth the jyuubi is through gedomazo!!
perhaps a long time ago the so6p olso captured it to destroy and divide the tentails with it, afterall, it does have chains on its hands!!
what if the sage of the six paths not only divided jyuubis chakra, what if he did his own too?, those nine white dragons in gedomazo could be his chakra and soul divided into nine parts!
i know it sounds crazy, but still, maybe gedomazo was the parent of the tentailed and so6p, so so6p was half demon half human!
sorry for so many strange theories! lol
Dragon Lord
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well, im sure they didnt say such thing!
only said that he was a professor of all jutsu!
i just have some questions... why does tobi only want to look out of his mask with only one eye? wouldn't it b better to look with two eyes? and how does he know that the seal is weakest at birth? and last question don't you have to have m.s. to control the kyuubi? i thought itachi said that you trade your sight to gain control of the kyuubi. just thinking....thats all..
silenceofthelambs
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Most of this post just sounds like you have a strong admiration for Minato, and nothing more. He's not the strongest Hokage, and not even close to that title - Hashirama is more powerful than Minato, Tobirama is, and Sarutobi as well. If Minato could not even fight against Madara (chapter 440, page 10), then how is he more powerful than a Hokage who took down the same opponent in his prime alongside the Nine-Tailed Fox? While Minato did plan ahead by sealing the Nine-Tails into Naruto, he only did it because he hoped Naruto, with this "special power," would be able to put up a fight against Madara. Indeed, several characters on that day were to be, in a way, responsible for Madara's defeat, but we do not know which ones yet. It could be one out of the list you mentioned, two, or all of them together. Possibly even none, if you consider all the aspects to the situation. But I disagree with your statement that Minato is the greatest Shinobi in Konoha's history - there were greater ninja than him, and undoubtedly, there will be as well.
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that is indeed one of the questions that everyone indirectly are wondering about!, most probably because his hiding something on the left side of his face!
he knows about the seals could be two reasons, either he is from the uzumaki clan, or he participated in the eradication of the uzumaki clan, or maybe he was behind it, and behind many other clans eradication!!
either thats how the ems looks when controlling kyuubi
or thats not ems
or that is not madara therefore he has different ems
could be shisui's mindcontrol tech
all these aside, did you guys not notice?, i had a theory about the connection between the fullmoon and tailed beasts before, but now im even more certain!
there is definetly a connection between the moon, rather say "the full moon" and the kyuubi and perhaps tailed beasts!
everytime kyuubi is controlled, a full moon is specifically shown!!, and this time they again specifically showed the full moon, and also, right after the viewing of the full moon, there was a hint....
tobis eye turned from the three tomoes into a full moon shape tomoe!!, this is perhaps how he controls the kyuubi!!
the jyuubis body is still on the moon afterall, and so may be his mind, and that may be why a full moon is needed
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wow great chapter!! things are getting more and more exciting! i can't wait to know the real history of the attack!!
kushina and minato are such good parents, a real pity they never lived to raise up naruto! i have a sudden surge of respect and awe for minato after reading this chapter. he is just too awesome. you could see his strong will both as a father and the hokage! amazing man, this guy
i totally 'aww'-ed when i saw the last part of itachi with sasuke. he was babysitting sasuke! (while their dumba** parents were plotting their evil plan or whatever) just adorable xd
i hope itachi had a part in this saving konoha from the nine tailed fox history! that'd be super interesting. or at least he's featured more in the next chapter as a child. heh
kushina and minato are such good parents, a real pity they never lived to raise up naruto! i have a sudden surge of respect and awe for minato after reading this chapter. he is just too awesome. you could see his strong will both as a father and the hokage! amazing man, this guy
i totally 'aww'-ed when i saw the last part of itachi with sasuke. he was babysitting sasuke! (while their dumba** parents were plotting their evil plan or whatever) just adorable xd
i hope itachi had a part in this saving konoha from the nine tailed fox history! that'd be super interesting. or at least he's featured more in the next chapter as a child. heh
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minatoisagod
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@ Silenceof the lambs of course i admire the guy. You have given me no proof either but your own opinion of who you think is the strongest hokage just like i did. Just because someone sees through everything you do it don't make them stronger just a damn good analyst and the sharingan helps alot with that.the first took the kyubuui out of the fight so i don't see the big Revelation in him being stronger, the second don't see that either the third is the only one i will consider even then it a draw for top spot between him and the fourth. But it don't matter all of them will be surpassed by naruto and they dead
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I keep thinking how great these past few and future chapter for this arc will be animated. They're already so charged with emotion, history, and action. Its curious that the last page left us with Itachi and Sasuke--wonder where that'll take us. Itachi seems too young to really do anything at this point even though he is a genius.
It's too bad people put down Naruto, even though some parts seem to stretch out and there are obvious fillers in the anime; I think the stories keep getting better especially where it is now. xd
It's too bad people put down Naruto, even though some parts seem to stretch out and there are obvious fillers in the anime; I think the stories keep getting better especially where it is now. xd
From Wiki: Sage defeated the most powerful demon in the ninja world, the Ten-Tailed Beast. In order to protect the world from the Ten-Tails, the Sage developed a new technique. The Sage was able to use this technique to seal the beast into his own body, allowing him to harness and control its terrifying power and making himself the first jinchūriki. Though he had successfully sealed the Ten-Tails, its power was so great that the seal would break after the Sage's death. Aware of this, the Sage used the rest of his strength to divide the beast's power into nine parts, which would become known as the tailed beasts
now Madara needs all 9 beasts for? resurecting 10 tails... and i dont think Madara will try control it, i think his part of it
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i know all that bro! im not a rookie! lol, my point was that the technique was actually the use of gedomazo jyuubis origin!From Wiki: Sage defeated the most powerful demon in the ninja world, the Ten-Tailed Beast. In order to protect the world from the Ten-Tails, the Sage developed a new technique. The Sage was able to use this technique to seal the beast into his own body, allowing him to harness and control its terrifying power and making himself the first jinchūriki. Though he had successfully sealed the Ten-Tails, its power was so great that the seal would break after the Sage's death. Aware of this, the Sage used the rest of his strength to divide the beast's power into nine parts, which would become known as the tailed beasts
now Madara needs all 9 beasts for? resurecting 10 tails... and i dont think Madara will try control it, i think his part of it
and its just a theory no more!
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Dragon Lord
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then what is this site for? i thought it was for naruto theories! thats the reason i joined!spoiler was not actualy towards you
Narutofan123457
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well this chapter sorta confirms that Madara might not have the EMS. He was able to control the 9 tails with just plain sharingan, which I suppose makes sense. Remember that Sasuke, before he got any power ups, was able to control the most powerful snake summoning within seconds. So maybe Madara really did lose his EMS. Here's what I think...
During his fight with the 1st, the 1st began to seal Madara, and his techniques.
Madara was able to use Izanagi at the last second, sacrificing one of his eyes
Although Madara lives, the 1st still was able to seal several of Madara's techiniques
Madara's EMS was sealed, but his one space time jutsu was still an unsealed ability
Madara only has one usable eye, and he has no EMS. He can't get the EMS again because it was sealed, and he didn't have another brother to take the eyes from to regain the EMS
Now Madara needs Sasuke's EMS when the time is right, to again regain all of his strength and become the most powerful ninja in the world, using the power of the juubi to destroy the ninja countries at his whim.
During his fight with the 1st, the 1st began to seal Madara, and his techniques.
Madara was able to use Izanagi at the last second, sacrificing one of his eyes
Although Madara lives, the 1st still was able to seal several of Madara's techiniques
Madara's EMS was sealed, but his one space time jutsu was still an unsealed ability
Madara only has one usable eye, and he has no EMS. He can't get the EMS again because it was sealed, and he didn't have another brother to take the eyes from to regain the EMS
Now Madara needs Sasuke's EMS when the time is right, to again regain all of his strength and become the most powerful ninja in the world, using the power of the juubi to destroy the ninja countries at his whim.
Hungry Demon Path
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It never stated they had those abilities... Kisame's bijuu had the distinct ability of combining any 2 elements at a time... that's why he said it was so hard to capture. Not sure what chapter but it's also in the anime now awhile ago.
silenceofthelambs
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No proof? You said that Minato was strongest of the Hokages. I am going to refute that statement. First of all, Hashirama Senju is stronger than Minato for the very reason you gave in your post - "[he] took the [Nine-Tailed Fox] out of the fight," which is something that Minato could do only by giving up his life, while Hashirama had a special ability designed to suppress the fox. Just there, you can tell that Hashirama is more powerful than Minato, and perhaps the strongest of all the Hokages. Next, Tobirama. He was considered, during his term, as the strongest ninja in his village, and one of the three people that could use Edo Tensei. As long as you rob the revived of their free will, they are impossible to beat, except by having their souls sealed with the Shiki Fuujin, which costs the user his life. Even Sarutobi, who was most likely Hashirama's equal (perhaps surpassing him, though it is hard to say), could only deal with Edo Tensei by sacrificing his life to seal the souls of the First and Second Hokages. Sarutobi himself acknowledged their strength (which was partial) when fighting with them. And Sarutobi, most already know about him. He knew every single technique in Konoha, and was considered "The God of Shinobi." He has much experience, and it certainly helps when in battle. Minato, while an incredible ninja, did not match up to any of these Hokages, possibly because of his early death, but then again you cannot say how strong he would have been had he lived longer.
And if Madara "saw through everything" Minato did (being a good analyst as you call it), how would any of Minato's attacks possibly work on Madara? We can assume Minato's words to mean that, if they fought, each of his attacks were repelled because Madara was always one step ahead of him, reading each of his moves. If they do physically fight in the chapters to come, then perhaps this matter will be settled once and for all.
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