Kishimoto created a plothole in order to nerf Sasuke

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How he was revived?

Orochimaru may know a jutsu that can divide his soul into many souls, a bit like the Tsuchikage who can split his body in halves, and create 2 living bodies and probably 2 souls.
He may seal those souls into a host with his curse seal.

Another explanation would be that Orochimaru escaped Totsuka's seal in the soul dimension and was free to travel between his curse marks.
 

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That's not a nerf. Just because he didn't learn new abilities that weren't even hinted towards.

I see a nerf as giving a character something then taking it away for the purpose of plot. It did happen with Naruto but only in the form of Frog Kata. I can't remember any other instances where he was nerfed.
summoning jutsu at VoTE 1....learning ONLY the basics during 2 yr timeskip...no truth seeking balls during VoTE 2...no tailed beast kekkei genkai during VoTE 2...and basically as an adult he is a walking nerf
 

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itachi's eyes are not sasuke's own power
I think this excuse is outdated. The EMS is Sasuke's ppwer, do we say that the rinnegan is hashirama's power just because Madara used his flesh to get it? Of course not we call it Madara's rinnegan. Technically everything is Kaguya's power that doesn't mean people don't have ownership of their resoective power anymore. The EMS is called Sasuke's EMS. Besides Sasuke just got stronger eyes and no loss in eyesight. Sasuke doesn't even have tsukyomi but if you still want to use the outdated reasoning that Sasuke's EMS is Itachi's as well despite Sasuke not gaining any of Itachi's techniques such as totsuka, yata, or Tsukyomi then by all means :bdpf:
 

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I think this excuse is outdated. The EMS is Sasuke's ppwer, do we say that the rinnegan is hashirama's power just because Madara used his flesh to get it? Of course not we call it Madara's rinnegan. Technically everything is Kaguya's power that doesn't mean people don't have ownership of their resoective power anymore. The EMS is called Sasuke's EMS. Besides Sasuke just got stronger eyes and no loss in eyesight. Sasuke doesn't even have tsukyomi but if you still want to use the outdated reasoning that Sasuke's EMS is Itachi's as well despite Sasuke not gaining any of Itachi's techniques such as totsuka, yata, or Tsukyomi then by all means :bdpf:
it's itachi's eyes...no matter how you slice it it's itachi's eyes..no itachi's eyes = no EMS...just like hagoromo's chakra etc.

also sasuke's curse mark was given to him as well...just another thing on the list of handed out power ups
 

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it's itachi's eyes...no matter how you slice it it's itachi's eyes..no itachi's eyes = no EMS...just like hagoromo's chakra etc.

also sasuke's curse mark was given to him as well...just another thing on the list of handed out power ups
I'm talking about current Sasuke. Not the past one of course Sasuke has had power-ups just no notable ones during his one with Naruto. Unless of course you want to count the tail beast which isn't apart of his main arsenal so that's debatable for you. So long as the databook says EMS is Sasuke's eyes I'm going with the databook,official manga, and the fact that sasuke can deactivate it and not a fan's interpretation :bdpf:. Deactivation of eyes means original owner, Hashirama does not iwn a rinnegan just because madara used his flesh to get it :bdpf:. If they were Itachi's eyes Sasuke wouldn't be able to deactivate it. Again Sasuke didn't even get anything from the EMS, so how does it count as Itachi's eyes? If it were Sasuke would have tsukyomi, yata, and totsuka. If Itachi got EMS, I'm almost certain you wouldn't be calling it "Sasuke's eyes". Just snother user downplaying Sasuke smh :lmao:. I suppose you think Kurama is a power-up for Naruto as well? You can't give ultimatums when manga fact is agaibst you on that. EMS is Sasuke's power, did he yse Itachi's eyes to get it? Yes but that doesn't mean it belongs to Itachi :lmao:. If Itachi got it he would have tsukyomi and totsuka and yata still maybe not enton though. But it woukd still be Itachi's eyes. All EMS does is enhamce the USER's ocular abilities and no blindness. Hashirama does not own a rinnegan and Itachi does not claim EMS, why is this so hard for you to acceot that they belong to Sasuke even manga states it's his but sure go agaibst clear manga facts :lmao:.
 

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Kishi say Naruto/Sasuke are the main stars and you say this bs. Hmm kay. :bdpf:
Why do you lie?Sasuke has no equal billing at all? The Manga name is Naruto nowhere dose it says Sasuke,The Name of the Hero is Naruto not Traitor pardon for His crimes by five Kage's Sasuke. The Hero of Wave Country is Naruto Uzumaki and the Name of Bridge is The Great Naruto Uzumaki Bridge not Sasuke. The only thing ever mention with Sasuke name on it was a popper Scupper that Sasuke face change when you pick up the dog popup up. From Frowning Sasuke to happy Sasuke, wish I had one before the creator was force to stop making them sines He never had a contract with Kishi for merchandize.
 

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Kishi say Naruto/Sasuke are the main stars and you say this bs. Hmm kay. :bdpf:
Stop your lies Sasuke lost to Naruto Sasuke even said I QUIT. Naruto has defeated Sasuke at being Hokage,Having more children than Sasuke,Having two arms to Sasuke one arm,Having a wife with a bigger rack than His.Equal means being the same and having the same. Two categories Sasuke Uchiha has failed to measure up to Lord Naruto Uzumaki Savior of Konoha and Savior of the World and Leader of Leaders.
 

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Stop your lies Sasuke lost to Naruto Sasuke even said I QUIT. Naruto has defeated Sasuke at being Hokage,Having more children than Sasuke,Having two arms to Sasuke one arm,Having a wife with a bigger rack than His.Equal means being the same and having the same. Two categories Sasuke Uchiha has failed to measure up to Lord Naruto Uzumaki Savior of Konoha and Savior of the World and Leader of Leaders.
Why are you always whining on every thread. Sasuke is better than Naruto in every way stfu already.
 

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Why do you lie?Sasuke has no equal billing at all? The Manga name is Naruto nowhere dose it says Sasuke,The Name of the Hero is Naruto not Traitor pardon for His crimes by five Kage's Sasuke. The Hero of Wave Country is Naruto Uzumaki and the Name of Bridge is The Great Naruto Uzumaki Bridge not Sasuke. The only thing ever mention with Sasuke name on it was a popper Scupper that Sasuke face change when you pick up the dog popup up. From Frowning Sasuke to happy Sasuke, wish I had one before the creator was force to stop making them sines He never had a contract with Kishi for merchandize.
Stopped reading @Bold That's a lame excuse and you just deny what the author says in nearly every interview and portrayals in the manga.

Stop your lies Sasuke lost to Naruto Sasuke even said I QUIT. Naruto has defeated Sasuke at being Hokage,Having more children than Sasuke,Having two arms to Sasuke one arm,Having a wife with a bigger rack than His.Equal means being the same and having the same. Two categories Sasuke Uchiha has failed to measure up to Lord Naruto Uzumaki Savior of Konoha and Savior of the World and Leader of Leaders.
Lol I'm done this post is petty.
 

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Why are you always whining on every thread. Sasuke is better than Naruto in every way stfu already.
WHY can't you accept the truth? Sasuke Uchiha works for Lord Naruto Uzumaki the Man who saved and change Sasuke life. The Sasuke Uchiha that you like died the day Sasuke said I QUIT to Naruto.
 

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WHY can't you accept the truth? Sasuke Uchiha works for Lord Naruto Uzumaki the Man who saved and change Sasuke life. The Sasuke Uchiha that you like died the day Sasuke said I QUIT to Naruto.
Naruto works for Sasuke. The hokages work are ordered by a Uchiha.
 

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it's itachi's eyes...no matter how you slice it it's itachi's eyes..no itachi's eyes = no EMS...just like hagoromo's chakra etc.

also sasuke's curse mark was given to him as well...just another thing on the list of handed out power ups
What's your point ? Itachi's eyes are his now, the pattern on Itachi's eyes aren't only Itachi's but also Sasuke's and the abilities EMS grants are Sasuke's as well.
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">So how's life in SasukeBase OP? Oh wait. You're too retarded.</div>
 

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i always felt the cursed seal was more of a hindrance than a benefit. I dont think that would have aided him further once he got MS tbh.
I think orochimaru survived because he still had some of his essence left, like kabuto absorbed a part of him so it wasnt all gone into Sasuke. He was revived through Ankos cursed seal which had some of his essence. He still needs a body every 3 years and didnt cheat immortality because in that state he would have been dead unless someone else directly revived him. If no one revived him he would have stayed dead, he cant revive like that. Also only a few people have cursed marks if any still exist so he may not ever be revived that way again.
His body stealing immortality he can do whilst alive and doesnt need help to revive himself so its a much better choice.
 
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