The Actual Top 10 Best Nin (Development/Fights/Depth)

[Wolves]

Nah I disagree gaara had a harder past then naruto and sauce combined entire Fam hated him as well as the village for 12 years nardo found friends and iruka early on and sauce was fine with exception of revenge

This has to be one of the worst posts I've ever read. I can't stop laughing at you.

 

[-immortal-]

Madara should be on this list and nagato

 

[Genyūmaru1]

Gaara at #1 in terms of development?

You obviously haven't seen Gaara's Pt.1 - Pt.2 change.

 

[minamoto]

ordinary thread

 

[BLAZE]

I disagree with Tsunade and Chouji but the rest are fine.

List is crap tbh.
If he includes Tsunade Sakura automatically gets the place.Almost same fighting style with better speed and strength feats
Excludes Madara whose versitality is over anyone in the series.Same goes for Hashirama

Talks about Independent females completely ignores Mei,Temari and Konan

Puts Shika and chouji to list but ignores Hiashi,3rd Raikage,Gaara,Ohnoki,Yamato etc etc
and how is the list not garbage when Nagato and Hiruzen was not put on the list while danzo is

and finally this :|

Itachi, Hidan, Hanzo etc. aren't viable for best-written.

 

[SonicBoom]

These are not my favourite ninja. I'm trying to make this list as objective as possible.
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1.Obito Uchiha / Tobi / 'Madara'

2. Kabuto Yakushi


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[BLAZE]

^^^ made me lol hard

 

[Akаsh]

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100 points to gryffindor :lol

 

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Hehehehe :sdo:

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[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Hehehehe :sdo:

Yeah? I like complex characters and don't care about the sports-team style wanking of tiers / characters that NB seems to

It's obvious i'd only like the most interesting and complex considering writing is my sh*t.

 

[Claymantan]

Yeah? I like complex characters and don't care about the sports-team style wanking of tiers / characters that NB seems to

It's obvious i'd only like the most interesting and complex considering writing is my sh*t.

Kishimoto likes writing, indeed, you might say that since he wrote 700 chapters of a highly successful manga, writing is his sh*t

And yet these characters exist

And he likes Itachi and Obito a helluva lot

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

List is crap tbh.
If he includes Tsunade Sakura automatically gets the place.Almost same fighting style with better speed and strength feats

Again you're talking about feats? Who cares? Do you think this is a top 10 list? Do you think complexity is about who can punch the hardest????

Read the strange symbols underneath the picture of Tsunade man, they're called words and they can be a bit tricky but they clearly say what is different about Tsunade, traits that are unique to her.

Puts Shika and chouji to list but ignores Hiashi,3rd Raikage,Gaara,Ohnoki,Yamato etc etc

THE THIRD RAIKAGE! HIASHI! Oh my god please tell me about your vastly superior list when it comes to character depth and how complex they are written. Please tell me how Hiashi got his own arc that explored his characterisation and developed his arc.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Kishimoto likes writing

And yet these characters exist

And he likes Itachi and Obito a helluva lot

...So? Kishimoto is capable of bad writing. Itachi is a Gary Stu written infallibly to appeal to 15 year old boys on NB.

I already wrote about the interesting nature of the Uchiha subplot in the Danzo statement. Danzo embodies the massacre themes better, without the wanking fanservice trash.

 

[BlacLord™]

Some of the list is hideous imo. I can see you like the underdogs. We just have different opinions on this one.

Choji. Fodder for part 1. Worst comic relief I've ever seen. Made out to be a retard when Hidan rustled him and he tried to punch his scythe. Cried for most if part 2.

Tsunade. Typical tough tsundere archetype. Any accomplishment she had was cancelled out. Kinda saved most of her people temporarily from Pain but lost her village for example.

Danzo. He's just a pathetic cowardly ass tbh. Although thry did spend a bit of time on him.

Kabuto. Part 1 pedo lapdog spy. Part 2. Sneaky. Graverobber.

The rest is pretty accurate.

Have to agree.

Adding Obito: Just a rag-doll. As the masked man, he was just adopting Madara's persona, and doing Madara's work. Then when it came off, it was revealed he was this weak-willed guy who barely managed to stumble his way through the story until death. His primary arsenal as an adult consisted of Kamui and one Katon, with the occasional bukijutsu and basic Mokuton technique for good measure. As Juubi Jin, he was interesting and convincing as a threat for 1-2 chapters, but just fell off.

Then when Madara was revived and started solo'ing like mad, Obito looked totally pathetic as a threat, especially considering his power against eyeless Madara.

 

[BLAZE]

Again you're talking about feats?

and potrayal

Who cares?

any one with brain

Do you think this is a top 10 list?

so thats why i listed sakura,hiashi,3rd raikage,hiruzen,itachi :lol

Do you think complexity is about who can punch the hardest????

Its surely not who is my fav lmao

Read the strange symbols underneath the picture of Tsunade man, they're called words and they can be a bit tricky but they clearly say what is different about Tsunade, traits that are unique to her.

makes her unique what is actually unique her teleporting to battlefield after madara drops meteor.Guess that makes Hinata and Sakura far more unique to charge against Deva or JJ Madara with both eyes

THE THIRD RAIKAGE! HIASHI! Oh my god please tell me about your vastly superior list when it comes to character depth and how complex they are written. Please tell me how Hiashi got his own arc that explored his characterisation and developed his arc.

Sure come back again when choji gets one, And u said this really and u are one to talk

Itachi not viable for best-written.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Have to agree.

Adding Obito: Just a rag-doll. As the masked man, he was just adopting Madara's persona, and doing Madara's work. Then when it came off, it was revealed he was this weak-willed guy who barely managed to stumble his way through the story until death. His primary arsenal as an adult consisted of Kamui and one Katon, with the occasional bukijutsu and basic Mokuton technique for good measure. As Juubi Jin, he was interesting and convincing as a threat for 1-2 chapters, but just fell off.

Then when Madara was revived and started solo'ing like mad, Obito looked totally pathetic as a threat, especially considering his power against eyeless Madara.

Ah shame, guess i'm viewing Obito as a character rather than as villain potential. I do give you that Kishimoto failed to represent him fully when that mask first came off. There's this great stuff to use that he just didn't milk until later in that arc.

I fail to see how everybody can just overlook all those years of Tobi being this great villain people were afraid of. Just because he operated with that name doesn't make those actions Madara's. Him actually using the name 'Madara' was a tiny part of this character's involvement in the manga I would argue.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Sure come back again when choji gets one, And u said this really and u are one to talk

Chouji is a character who has undergone change. Hiashi is not. Loooool are you really arguing this, I think you've misunderstood this thread or at the very least taken it too literally.

 

[Claymantan]

...So? Kishimoto is capable of bad writing. Itachi is a Gary Stu written infallibly to appeal to 15 year old boys on NB.

I already wrote about the interesting nature of the Uchiha subplot in the Danzo statement. Danzo embodies the massacre themes better, without the wanking fanservice trash.

I'm not even arguing that Danzo isn't a very interesting character located at the center of the most complex threads in the plot.

I'm saying that being a writer =/= being attracted to complexity, nor does it mean you can carte blanche invalidate the complex aspects of other characters.

People in this very thread have stated why they think that characters that you deem sufficiently complex, like Choji and Obito, are actually very simplistic and uninteresting. People have also suggested how other characters you very ardently reject as having any complexity might be interesting.

Honestly, I don't remember much about 3rd Raikage, but Hiashi does arguably have an arc more interesting than Choji's arc of lacking confidence. He's a man in a position of power restricted by politics who had to sacrifice his own brother in order to maintain the political order of his clan; he's steeped in tradition which led to his frustration in dealing with Hinata, and he learns to loosen up about these traditions and respect the power of the next generation to succeed in ways which contradicted his initial worldview about the clan hierarchy and what distinguishes a shinobi. He turns his pride in his clan from a restrictive force to a cooperative and healthy one, and this arc begins during the Chuunin Exams and is completed by the Fourth Shinobi World War.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I'm not even arguing that Danzo isn't a very interesting character located at the center of the most complex threads in the plot.

I'm saying that being a writer =/= being attracted to complexity, nor does it mean you can carte blanche invalidate the complex aspects of other characters.

People in this very thread have stated why they think that characters that you deem sufficiently complex, like Choji and Obito, are actually very simplistic and uninteresting. People have also suggested how other characters you very ardently reject as having any complexity might be interesting.

The Third Raikage is...bad...but Hisashi does arguably have an arc more interesting than Choji's arc of lacking confidence. He's a man in a position of power restricted by politics who had to sacrifice his own brother in order to maintain the political order of his clan; he's steeped in tradition which led to his frustration in dealing with Hinata, and he learns to loosen up about these traditions and respect the power of the next generation to succeed in ways which contradicted his initial worldview about the clan hierarchy and what distinguishes a shinobi.

I'd argue that a lot of that is projecting though, so little of that is ever explored. There's an interesting set-up there but Chouji is a character whose development is prominently featured and explored with by Kishi- which is what this thread is about.

Thanks for talking sensibly btw- I don't mean to be laying the law down xD I just have that way of writing I guess.

 

[BLAZE]

Chouji is a character who has undergone change. Hiashi is not. Loooool are you really arguing this, I think you've misunderstood this thread or at the very least taken it too literally.

and Itachi literally dwarfs him but oh wait it your fav char listing.
Do yourself a favour get Sasuke off the list becoz he is not your fav smh