Uchihas have more chakra reserves than Senju's

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Kushina told Naruto that the Senju and Uzumaki are related. The clans are both descended from Ashura.
She said they was distant relatives but we don't know if that's from Ashura. It's the same as when people thought Indra = Uchiha, Hyuga. Ashura = Senju. But said Uzumaki = Hagoromo. But it was Hamura = Hyuga. Indra = Uchiha. Ashura = Senju. Uzumaki and Senju could have been relatives because of Hashirama and Mito being married for all we know.
 

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He was Senju lineage. That made him somehow able to control the Mazo.

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Yeah and Databook states that summoning Mazo consumes the user's lifeforce. Perhaps the same applies to controlling the Manzo hence why you need the Senju's Lifeforce in order to control it?
 

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She said they was distant relatives but we don't know if that's from Ashura. It's the same as when people thought Indra = Uchiha, Hyuga. Ashura = Senju. But said Uzumaki = Hagoromo. But it was Hamura = Hyuga. Indra = Uchiha. Ashura = Senju. Uzumaki and Senju could have been relatives because of Hashirama and Mito being married for all we know.

It's clear that if Nagato had the Senju lineage despite being an Uzumaki that they all are descendants of Ashura.
 

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It's clear that if Nagato had the Senju lineage despite being an Uzumaki that they all are descendants of Ashura.
Except he's the only one that was stated to be of Senju lineage. Not Kushina not Mito not Karin just him.
Yeah and Databook states that summoning Mazo consumes the user's lifeforce. Perhaps the same applies to controlling the Manzo hence why you need the Senju's Lifeforce in order to control it?
Nagato summoned the Mazo and it took his chakra/life force but it could have been because he used that soul Dragon jutsu. Because I don't think Madara had it happen to him.
 
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Except he's the only one that was stated to be of Senju lineage. Not Kushina not Mito not Karin just him.

He's of the Senju lineage because he's an Uzumaki, hence why Uzumakis have a high lifeforce which is a quality exclusive to Uzumakis and Senjus. We don't need to over-complicate the information given.

If Uzumakis aren't of the Senju lineage, then how else did Kushina and Mito obtain this "special" chakra? For some reason, only the Uzumaki could tame Kurama and no one else could. Konoha was so desperate that they had to have a little girl become Kurama's Jinchuuriki, so if she isn't of Senju lineage, then how did Kushina obtain this special chakra?
 

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He's of the Senju lineage because he's an Uzumaki, hence why Uzumakis have a high lifeforce which is a quality exclusive to Uzumakis and Senjus. We don't need to over-complicate the information given.

If Uzumakis aren't of the Senju lineage, then how else did Kushina and Mito obtain this "special" chakra? For some reason, only the Uzumaki could tame Kurama and no one else could. Konoha was so desperate that they had to have a little girl become Kurama's Jinchuuriki, so if she isn't of Senju lineage, then how did Kushina obtain this special chakra?
Kushina said she was taken to konoha to become kurama's Jin because of her special strong chakra and possibly her longevity which would make her able to keep kurama in check for a long time like Mito did. Uzumaki's wasn't the only ones to tame kurama. They was just preferred over the other's. Why would they seal kurama into an Uchiha? And no other people could most likely handle kurama except Uchiha Senju and Uzumaki.
 

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Not really though. Ofc he was Uzumaki but he's the only Uzumaki that's Senju lineage. Other than Tsunade being half Uzumaki and Senju. Ashura reincarnated into Hashirama and his descendents are Senju. No known Uzumaki is known having large reserves. Kushina/Mito had strong chakra and Tsunade/Nagato is Senju lineage. Naruto Ashura's reincarnation.

Nagato was pure Uzumaki like Karin, they did have large reserves, Karin's were large enough to heal Sasuke's fatal wounds while Nagato's were large enough to spam Rinnegan his whole life and Naruto's were large enough to learn Sage Mode.

Senju and Uzumaki both come from Ashura so will have the same traits, they both have more reserves and stamina than the Uchiha but Uzumaki have higher stamina/life force while Senju have higher reserves.
 

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He's of the Senju lineage because he's an Uzumaki, hence why Uzumakis have a high lifeforce which is a quality exclusive to Uzumakis and Senjus. We don't need to over-complicate the information given.

If Uzumakis aren't of the Senju lineage, then how else did Kushina and Mito obtain this "special" chakra? For some reason, only the Uzumaki could tame Kurama and no one else could. Konoha was so desperate that they had to have a little girl become Kurama's Jinchuuriki, so if she isn't of Senju lineage, then how did Kushina obtain this special chakra?

They aren't from the Senju though because they have their own specific traits, it's most likely Ashura had two kids which inherited two separate body feats of his like how him and Indra inherited separate traits of Hagoromo, I think we might see the same with Boruto and Himawari.
 

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They aren't from the Senju though because they have their own specific traits, it's most likely Ashura had two kids which inherited two separate body feats of his like how him and Indra inherited separate traits of Hagoromo, I think we might see the same with Boruto and Himawari.

I agree, they're not from the Senju, but they're ancestor or bloodline stems from Ashura.
 

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Nagato was pure Uzumaki like Karin, they did have large reserves, Karin's were large enough to heal Sasuke's fatal wounds while Nagato's were large enough to spam Rinnegan his whole life and Naruto's were large enough to learn Sage Mode.

Senju and Uzumaki both come from Ashura so will have the same traits, they both have more reserves and stamina than the Uchiha but Uzumaki have higher stamina/life force while Senju have higher reserves.
Karin was out of chakra from healing Sasuke one time and it wasn't even life threatening injuries. Karin doesn't have large reserves. The manga even said Nagato could control his Rinnegan because he was Senju lineage. Naruto's chakra is high because he's Ashura's and besides that I never said he didn't have high reserves.

Like I said no known Uzumaki have large reserves Nagato is an exception but it's always been said that he's of Senju lineage.

Tsunade is half Uzumaki and half Senju.
Mito we don't know.
Kushina didn't have large reserves she had a strong chakra.
Naruto Ashura's reincarnation.
Karin lowest chakra out of all of them her vitality is the only thing she have for her.
 

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That's no surprise. The recipient literally feeds off of Karin's Lifeforce which is why it has such an effect on her body.
 

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Obito is a bit hax because of all his modifications, Madara and Sasuke are transmigrants with atypical chakra reserves and EMS which averts the usual chakra/usage restrictions, using Mangekyo did drain Itachi in spite of his prowess, and aside from these guys, most Uchihas didn't even achieve Mangekyo.

So you're left with the regular Sharingan, which they could choose to activate at will, which meant it wasn't draining their chakra except when they chose to use it in battle

Therefore, the average Uchiha wasn't walking around with an always-active EMS, they were walking around with regular eyes. In battle, they'd probably be employing 3Ts at best. 3T usage is tiring for like, novices and non-Uchiha, but its very negligible for dudes like Itachi who have mastered its use and can use it perpetually, or within the context of momentary battles for the common Uchiha mooks.

In conclusion, the premise of OP is flawed. The Uchihas having Sharingan is not sufficient proof to say they were burning significantly more chakra than the Senjus, nor that they required larger chakra pools to use it efficiently.
 

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I think it's fair for the Senju to have Higher Reserves.

The Senju possesses their Powerful Physical Energy/ Lifeforce and High Reserves whereas the Uchiha possesses their Powerful Spiritual Energy and Dojutsu.
 

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Karin was out of chakra from healing Sasuke one time and it wasn't even life threatening injuries. Karin doesn't have large reserves. The manga even said Nagato could control his Rinnegan because he was Senju lineage. Naruto's chakra is high because he's Ashura's and besides that I never said he didn't have high reserves.

Like I said no known Uzumaki have large reserves Nagato is an exception but it's always been said that he's of Senju lineage.

Tsunade is half Uzumaki and half Senju.
Mito we don't know.
Kushina didn't have large reserves she had a strong chakra.
Naruto Ashura's reincarnation.
Karin lowest chakra out of all of them her vitality is the only thing she have for her.

you like to deny the manga correct?

kishimoto himself in the fourth databook page 166:

The Clan Of The Sage Of Six Path's Lineage

Tracing back to the genesis of Ninja, Senju and Uchiha's thread of connection. Both Clans take the Sage of Six Path as their founder, and strongly inherit that power.

↑ Moreover, Hashirama and Madara are the reincarnations of the the Sage of Six Paths's sons Asura and Indra, respectively.

The rivalry between Hashirama and Madara may be unavoidable destiny. Hashirama is Asura; Madara is Indra. The karma of Indra, the genius older brother, and Asura, the younger brother who inherited his father's will, was to go beyond their generation and start a war.

↑ The Hidden Leaf's Senju Clan and The Hidden Whirlpool's Uzumaki Clan are Ninja of distant blood relation. . . The Uzumaki Clan, a distant relative of the Senju Clan, could also be said to be a lineage of the Sage of Six Paths.

^^^ meaning both senju and uzumaki decend from hagoromo's 2nd son
 

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you like to deny the manga correct?

kishimoto himself in the fourth databook page 166:



^^^ meaning both senju and uzumaki decend from hagoromo's 2nd son
Then I was proven wrong on 1 thing. I admit I never saw that. But even then no known Uzumaki's have large chakra reserves. Besides Nagato being of Senju lineage was the only one able to summon/control the Mazo.
 

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Kushina told Naruto that the Senju and Uzumaki are related. The clans are both descended from Ashura.
You need to calm down uzumaki were only famous for fuinn jutsu and lifeforce not for high chakra reserves or body. Anyway the uzumaki are a branch of the Senju Clan a weaker branch but 1 non the less.
 

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Yes but Uchiha have potent chakra and being the masters of chakra control they have learnt to use even the limited chakra effectively......longer usage doesn't necessarily imply that they have more chakra....also madara was a special case....
That the Hyuga
 

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She said they was distant relatives but we don't know if that's from Ashura. It's the same as when people thought Indra = Uchiha, Hyuga. Ashura = Senju. But said Uzumaki = Hagoromo. But it was Hamura = Hyuga. Indra = Uchiha. Ashura = Senju. Uzumaki and Senju could have been relatives because of Hashirama and Mito being married for all we know.

Uzumaki are distance relatives which basically means cousins so uzumaki are hamura
 
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