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With no proof you can't exactly say what happened. All you can say is that after casting the Jutsu and fusing with the Tree Kaguya became the Juubi and Hagoromo and Hamura fought her. You don't know when the fight started whether before or after MT and u don't really know if they were exposed to MT seeing how Kaguya apparently had homes in multiple dimensions.

Also what helps against MT is the power of Rinnegan (not exactly susanoo. ) chances are any chakra based technique connected with his rinnegan might have worked :coffee:

So Only the rinnegan being able to counter it is not a fact then. Guess what people say about kishi is true, not that good at story telling. :hmm:
 

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OP is basically saying that Sasuke is canonically the best character, and you need fanon to think otherwise.

I don't even agree, but this is the thread XD
 

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how did Hamura counter IT with his brother again?

This is the example here. Clear example for this thread. Asking people to use their imagination.

This kind of question should never exist if what you seek here is fact that can be use to support this thread about Naruto and IT.

Imagination and thinking is something you do to find a possibility. Possibility is not fact but its inside Assumption or Theory spectrum/scope unless the theory is test and proven true.

And Hamura's story never been told clearly for you to use as case or supporting material.

We dont know how Kaguya used IT back then. How many people get caught.

Following current story and facts only Sasuke's Rinnegan have an immunity to IT light and his PS can block IT light. Further speculation if being made is just an assumption.
 
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So Only the rinnegan being able to counter it is not a fact then. Guess what people say about kishi is true, not that good at story telling. :hmm:

Nope rinnegan countering it is fact because the manga stated that Sasuke's rinnegan countered it. We can't really say that for a fact that Hagoromo's Rinnegan countered it though it is well within the realm of possibility
 

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Nope rinnegan countering it is fact because the manga stated that Sasuke's rinnegan countered it. We can't really say that for a fact that Hagoromo's Rinnegan countered it though it is well within the realm of possibility

I know it's a fact that a rinnegan can counter it, but it being the only thing countering IT is 100% fact.
 

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I can go over board like some poeple here by creating assumptions/possibilities but what is the point if it just an assumption and not a fact. No author's authorization.

Not that you can use your theory/assumption for debate materials in other treads or forums. Or post it in Wikia else.

Even there are one kid yesterday saying current Kakashi can create PS and Kamui Shuriken and said he followed manga fact.
 
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I know it's a fact that a rinnegan can counter it, but it being the only thing countering IT is 100% fact.

Well MT doesn't effect Kaguya's will, Zetsus, or dead ppl apparently :|
 

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Well MT doesn't effect Kaguya's will, Zetsus, or dead ppl apparently :|

Doesnt effect is not same as countering.

Its mean they are immune to it.

What in Naruto's Arsenal that can be use to give Naruto immunity to IT light/counter it which is fact and not assumption?

Dont give him room to create out of feat assumption/imagination etc.
 

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Doesnt effect is not same as countering.

Its mean they are immune to it.

What in Naruto's Arsenal that can be use to give Naruto immunity to IT light/counter it which is fact and not assumption?

Dont give him room to create out of feat assumption/imagination etc.

Relax there buddy I am on your side :bdpf: also u r correct. There is a clear difference between countering and immunity
 

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Well Sasuke's rinnegan and susanoo can definitely counter IT but just because Sasuke stops Naruto from going out of his susanoo does not prove with certainty that Naruto can't counter IT, Sasuke does not have full idea of the powers at Naruto's disposal or what they can do, he stopped him based on his knowledge of Naruto's powers.
I think Naruto's TSBs should also be able to counter IT or Kurama can break it for him. Naruto probably didn't go out as a precautionary measure probably because he wasn't certain that he'd be able to counter or break out of it. And for those saying Bee a perfect Jin fell prey to it should read the manga again. Bee was not a perfect Jin at the time as Madara had completely extracted gyuki along with his conciousness from Bee's body. Bee only survived because gyuki managed to leave some of his chakra with Bee.
 

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Well Sasuke's rinnegan and susanoo can definitely counter IT but just because Sasuke stops Naruto from going out of his susanoo does not prove with certainty that Naruto can't counter IT, Sasuke does not have full idea of the powers at Naruto's disposal or what they can do, he stopped him based on his knowledge of Naruto's powers.
I think Naruto's TSBs should also be able to counter IT or Kurama can break it for him. Naruto probably didn't go out as a precautionary measure probably because he wasn't certain that he'd be able to counter or break out of it. And for those saying Bee a perfect Jin fell prey to it should read the manga again. Bee was not a perfect Jin at the time as Madara had completely extracted gyuki along with his conciousness from Bee's body. Bee only survived because gyuki managed to leave some of his chakra with Bee.

You 'think' mean its an imagination/assumption and not fact still.

Look you think it was a precautionary measure from him bcus he doesnt know if TSB can counter it or not but I'm asking you, does before this anywhere in manga ever mention about TSB ability to block IT light example from TSB master user Hagoromo? or anywhere in DB ever stated that?

I tell you to make it possible regarding to your thinking, you need to at least have a hint from before about TSB and IT and then you can make a connection to Naruto and his thought at that time. But never.

Author never gave a slightest hint to you about TSB capability to block IT light thats mean it couldnt.

If Kishi stated TSB can counter IT light before and Naruto at that time not too sure about his capability to counter IT light using TSB although TSB can, thats when your assumption about "Naruto took precautionary measure" is legit. Even you said probably mean you unsure about your decision.
 

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Haha lame thread Naruto gets one shot.
 

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Well TSBs countered pretty much everything else in the manga, but I agree it is an assumption on my part. However he still has Kurama then to get him out imo.
 

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This thread is run on wishful thinking.
 

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So you're basically telling us that Sasuke fans rely on the manga facts instead of fanfiction unlike Naruto fans? I agree, good thread

Manga facts yes very true. But it's a manga so what's really a fact. Gain some imagination
 

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Haha lame thread Naruto gets one shot.

Only thing lame is your sig.lol who cares what's fact. Fact is naruto would never counter It. He'd look into the light b4 he ever had a chance. To slow on thought process. That is the only true reason naruto can't counter.
 

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Manga facts yes very true. But it's a manga so what's really a fact. Gain some imagination

My imagination feats are in my sig - a 215k words length fanfiction story. Now show me some feats of yours, boi :bdpf:
 

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Well Sasuke's rinnegan and susanoo can definitely counter IT but just because Sasuke stops Naruto from going out of his susanoo does not prove with certainty that Naruto can't counter IT, Sasuke does not have full idea of the powers at Naruto's disposal or what they can do, he stopped him based on his knowledge of Naruto's powers.
I think Naruto's TSBs should also be able to counter IT or Kurama can break it for him. Naruto probably didn't go out as a precautionary measure probably because he wasn't certain that he'd be able to counter or break out of it. And for those saying Bee a perfect Jin fell prey to it should read the manga again. Bee was not a perfect Jin at the time as Madara had completely extracted gyuki along with his conciousness from Bee's body. Bee only survived because gyuki managed to leave some of his chakra with Bee.
Exactly
 
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