[Question] Is Jack dead?

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Zunisha just casually one shotted a Yonko mate and that makes Jack a scrub? Name one living character that has the feats to do this, who in the hell is tanking that shit?
Exactly, nobody is tanking that, so why ask the stupid question of who has the feat to do that? Everyone does. Doesn't mean they will survive. That's like asking who else can get hit by a monster truck and die in the real world. The stupidity on these forums is intense.
 

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THIS! All my agreement!
Excellent.
The location of the fight was heavily in favor to Zunisha. No way DF users can fight in the Sea.
Who was is that started bombarding Zunisha? Whose idea was it to kill Zunisha?

Devil-fruit users can't fright in the sea, obviously, but they can fight above sea level using Geppo.
How does being defeated by an island sized elephant make Jack a scrub?
Precisely because he was defeated by a 2000 year old, gigantic elephant
Zunisha just casually one shotted a Yonko mate and that makes Jack a scrub? Name one living character that has the feats to do this, who in the hell is tanking that shit?

The answer is nobody, never mind posting if your not going to use your common sense.
Assuming that no one can withstand an attack from Zounisha is a ridiculous assumption.

The fact that he was stupid enough to attack a living thing that big and not think anything was going to happen to him makes him border line retarded and thats enough for me to call him fodder.
This member here knows what he is talking about.
 

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Found evidence that Jack didn't made it onto the rubble and drowned. Put it in a spoiler tag to be safe.

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Considering Jack was unconscious and all his ships were blown to smitherins I would only guess that he is dead. It would only take a plot twist from Oda to show him clinging to Zunisha or something.
 

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Considering Jack was unconscious and all his ships were blown to smitherins I would only guess that he is dead. It would only take a plot twist from Oda to show him clinging to Zunisha or something.
No proof he was unconscious. Many people get hit by attacks and fly backwards like that but aren't unconscious. The strongest argument is that jack had his mask broken which could be similar to breaking doffys glasses but I suspect that is a red herring. It is also convenient that momo was unable to confirm jacks demise.

Think about it. Everyone is leaving zou except zoro and a few other straw hats. I think it will be up to them to defend from a sufficiently weakened jack while the other strong fighters are gone.
 
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No proof he was unconscious. Many people get hit by attacks and fly backwards like that but aren't unconscious. The strongest argument is that jack had his mask broken which could be similar to breaking doffys glasses but I suspect that is a red herring. It is also convenient that momo was unable to confirm jacks demise.

Think about it. Everyone is leaving zou except zoro and a few other straw hats. I think it will be up to them to defend from a sufficiently weakened jack while the other strong fighters are gone.
what more proof do you want?

He got the same treatment Bastille and Ronse got, similar to what Crocodile got etc. Every time a character is lights out that's how Oda draws them. Especially characters with some sort of mask.

Mask broken, mouth open, eyes rolled back, teeth showing etc.

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Now whether he got up later or not, who knows but he was definitely unconscious in that panel.
 

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No proof he was unconscious. Many people get hit by attacks and fly backwards like that but aren't unconscious. The strongest argument is that jack had his mask broken which could be similar to breaking doffys glasses but I suspect that is a red herring. It is also convenient that momo was unable to confirm jacks demise.

Think about it. Everyone is leaving zou except zoro and a few other straw hats. I think it will be up to them to defend from a sufficiently weakened jack while the other strong fighters are gone.

Jack is done, his eyes are blacked out symbolizing unconsciousness. Despite that fact, there is no proof Jack is conscious, specially after taking a direct hit from Zunisha's trunk.

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Huh? You Zoro fanboys are adamant in seeing "Jack V Zoro".
 

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what more proof do you want?

He got the same treatment Bastille and Ronse got, similar to what Crocodile got etc. Every time a character is lights out that's how Oda draws them. Especially characters with some sort of mask.

Mask broken, mouth open, eyes rolled back, teeth showing etc.

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Now whether he got up later or not, who knows but he was definitely unconscious in that panel.
The only test of unconsciousness is the panel after where it shows them laying ass flat on the ground. We only saw the one panel of jack. May we he is out in that panel but we don't know if he awoke immediately or if he fell into the sea. Don't count him out.

Jack is done, his eyes are blacked out symbolizing unconsciousness. Despite that fact, there is no proof Jack is conscious, specially after taking a direct hit from Zunisha's trunk.

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Huh? You Zoro fanboys are adamant in seeing "Jack V Zoro".
If you are correct then Jack showed up for no reason except to create fights we will never see. Oda wouldn't introduce a character like jack and be done with him like that. Everyone was saying he was done after he fought fujitora but he obviously wasn't. The fact that a similar situation has already been shown with his character is pretty compelling.

Oh and I'm not a zoro fanboy. I just disagree with the idiotic thought that zoro can't fight luffy in G2 because that would make him weaker than chinjao lol
 
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The only test of unconsciousness is the panel after where it shows them laying ass flat on the ground. We only saw the one panel of jack. May we he is out in that panel but we don't know if he awoke immediately or if he fell into the sea. Don't count him out.
Except this is worse given the fact that Jack is a devilfruit and seemingly fell into the sea, there is not ground to show Jack laying flat on the ground.


If you are correct then Jack showed up for no reason except to create fights we will never see. Oda wouldn't introduce a character like jack and be done with him like that. Everyone was saying he was done after he fought fujitora but he obviously wasn't. The fact that a similar situation has already been shown with his character is pretty compelling.

Oh and I'm not a zoro fanboy. I just disagree with the idiotic thought that zoro can't fight luffy in G2 because that would make him weaker than chinjao lol
Jack showed up for no reason? What manga are you reading?

We know Jack is one of Kaido's three calamities, we know Jack is a merciless character, we know Jack is a character with guts. Jack's mission was to retrieve Raizou, and he failed; Jack was definitely not introduced without a reason; Jack served his purpose, for now.

You are so dense. Never did I say Zoro couldn't compete with G2 Luffy, what I said was that given the fact that Asura is a one hit attack, it can't possibly compete with G2 Luffy.
 

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Except this is worse given the fact that Jack is a devilfruit and seemingly fell into the sea, there is not ground to show Jack laying flat on the ground.




Jack showed up for no reason? What manga are you reading?

We know Jack is one of Kaido's three calamities, we know Jack is a merciless character, we know Jack is a character with guts. Jack's mission was to retrieve Raizou, and he failed; Jack was definitely not introduced without a reason; Jack served his purpose, for now.

You are so dense. Never did I say Zoro couldn't compete with G2 Luffy, what I said was that given the fact that Asura is a one hit attack, it can't possibly compete with G2 Luffy.
Wood floats... Just like the wreckage on don Kriegs ship you can still stand on the floating wood.

He did show up for no reason. He was introduced and the problem of jack was then subsequently solved without any further development. The straw hats and mink alliance could have happened without jack showing up because the straw hats are allied with kinemon et al. Evrything that happened on zou is not dependent on jack at all. Jack fighting the minks served no purposes. Jack leaving to fight fujitora served no purpose. And jack coming back only served to showcase zunisha who could just as easily have been shown later in the manga. There was no need for jack to even be in the story. In other words, jack being defeated like this is pretty unfulfilling to me. Basically jack recieved all this hype for no reason.

Jack already came back from the dead once, he can do it again. And you will call BS when he does I'm sure.

If Asura can't compete then zoro can't compete. It's the same thing.

Asura is zoros strongest technique. It would be like saying G4 luffy can't compete but base luffy can. Or taking your dumb idea that asura is a singular attack; it would be like saying King Kong gun can't compete but red hawk can. It is incredibly silly to say someone's strongest technique/mode can't fight an opponent but his regular techniques/mode can. Ridiculous.
 
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