Where does morality come from?

where does morality come from?

  • It comes from God(s)

    Votes: 5 45.5%
  • It's just a conventional system

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It is totally subjective

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Nobody can answer this question

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It's just a tale you tell yourself to get motivated

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It's a system of values developed during Evolution

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 9.1%

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Yubel

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I believe morality grew as a result of thinking from the other person's perspective.
Essentially applying the Golden rule of do unto other as you would have them do unto you.

Since we are motivated by self-preservation, we immediately get discouraged from inflicting harm on someone else because you understand that they are like you. Morality is religious but it also has an important function in keeping civilization peaceful. In essence, if you harm someone else you lose your rights to live in that society. That's what created laws.
 

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WHAT is “morality” if, by evolution, it’s nothing more than the product of a bunch of random molecular processes? You have NO BASIS for morality, other than what YOU decide it is. And if I decide differently, then that’s too bad for you. My evolved molecules just think differently from yours.Therefore without God there is no objective basis for morality.
 

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Like Your Creepy Stalker said, morality is not unique to humans.
Besides that, we humans "created" our morality by ourselves. Religion and everything it contains is man-made too, don't forget that.
 

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the root of morality, right or wrong is a person perspective or popular agreements on certain topics. the mayan are great example.

they viewed blood as a potent source of nourishment for the maya deities, and the sacrifice of a living creature was a powerful blood offering. people blindly agreed to follow because it was taught as the "Right" thing to do.their refusal of offering would be considered an act of defiance. the "Wrong" thing to do.

in India it's considered wrong to eat cows, were as in the west it's a Sunday cookout. in the 1900s it was fashionable to wear fur. were as today it's frowned upon.

it's pretty much majority rules. 1000 years from now the word right and wrong will hold different values.
 
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I believe morality grew as a result of thinking from the other person's perspective.
Essentially applying the Golden rule of do unto other as you would have them do unto you.

Since we are motivated by self-preservation, we immediately get discouraged from inflicting harm on someone else because you understand that they are like you. Morality is religious but it also has an important function in keeping civilization peaceful. In essence, if you harm someone else you lose your rights to live in that society. That's what created laws.

Who determines what is objectively moral and immoral?
 

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It's a social construct created by Humans, whether you claim it was created by Religion or not. I do not think there was any divinity in it's origin, as other animals have been seen to behave morally, whereas Religions typically claim that their God only gave morals to humans.

(And i find it insulting to Humans as a species to claim that we could only come up with rules and morals by dint of Divine Intervention, but that's a whole other can of worms.)

Like Your Creepy Stalker said, morality is not unique to humans.
Besides that, we humans "created" our morality by ourselves. Religion and everything it contains is man-made too, don't forget that.

The focus is in the animals part. I find claiming that some animals have a morality too, like it seems by your words, is just somewhat of a "passing the boiling potato to the hands of others" rather than an answer. If humans and animals share this thing is not the issue, in my opinion, since it doesn't solve at all the problem of the source of the morality.
Said that, I'm now getting curious about the way you can prove that animals have a morality. I heard some people speaking about it before, but they felt to me like speculating on the bandwagoning ideas of veganism, specism and the others that are on trend thesedays.

I'm an animal lover and have a dog, and yes, sometimes I think it has somewhat of a "morality". But eventually realize that those feelings are no more than an impression of mine flowing from emotions. But I hope science denies me ;)

the root of morality, right or wrong is a person perspective or popular agreements on certain topics. the mayan are great example.

they viewed blood as a potent source of nourishment for the maya deities, and the sacrifice of a living creature was a powerful blood offering. people blindly agreed to follow because it was taught as the "Right" thing to do.their refusal of offering would be considered an act of defiance. the "Wrong" thing to do.

in India it's considered wrong to eat cows, were as in the west it's a Sunday cookout. in the 1900s it was fashionable to wear fur. were as today it's frowned upon.

it's pretty much majority rules. 1000 years from now the word right and wrong will hold different values.

You indeed get a point proving that moral laws aren't equal and are subjected to changing between society and society. But if you think about it, even Mayan and the most cruel civilities that come to your mind share some common "fundamental" points. For example, stealing and killing, yet under certain measures, are condemned by every society we know.
 

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Then why aren't atheists more likely to commit crimes compared to religious people?

Actually that isn't true at all the lemba tribe was actually one of the least violent groups their the original Hebrew/Jews/Israelite, DNA testing proves that your not taking into account the many variations.

[video=youtube;RYrQvm_llBY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYrQvm_llBY[/video]

So let me guess the lembra passed around their book and told europeans to go around and hang people right? Think about that real carefully before you answer that question.
 

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My point is, it is not insulting to receive instructions, we all live by instructions if you think about it, don't kill, don't steal, don't drive beyond the speed limit, :p Don't say nothing about our mom, brother..

But it is insulting to say that there is no possible way for a human to invent extremely basic instructions like "Don't Kill" or "Don't Steal" without the direct intervention of the all-knowing creator of the universe.
 
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But it is insulting to say that there is no possible way for a human to invent extremely basic instructions like "Don't Kill" or "Don't Steal" without the direct intervention of the all-knowing creator of the universe.

It was never said, humans couldn't know those things without God, we already know these things because its part of our being to have a sense of right from wrong, the Ten Commandments is simply a reiteration of the Law.
 
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But it is insulting to say that there is no possible way for a human to invent extremely basic instructions like "Don't Kill" or "Don't Steal" without the direct intervention of the all-knowing creator of the universe.

It was never said, humans couldn't know those things without God, we already know these things because its part of our being to have a sense of right from wrong, the Ten Commandments is simply a reiteration of the Law, save the first, second and forth, which were personal laws to God.
 

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People build their own moral codes, cognition is patterned and influenced by genetics and environment but there's a random element (free will) that disrupts patterns or "God"

Thus, vegans, diverse interpretations of religions, and libertarians
 

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It was never said, humans couldn't know those things without God, we already know these things because its part of our being to have a sense of right from wrong, the Ten Commandments is simply a reiteration of the Law, save the first, second and forth, which were personal laws to God.

Good. So Morality isn't from God. I win.
 

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Well according to many religions moral principles as well as the ability of people to build upon them has been bestowed on people by God, the ultimate source of all good.

Thats the religious way to look at it, my way atleast. :coffee:
 

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I believe morals did come from God because people would not fear the consequences of their actions if there was no hell or heaven
 
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