[VS] SH's vs Jack

[Tomato God]

Franky has Shogun Franky AND Kizaru lasers, I know his Pink fight didn't show anything past fists but I think people are sleeping on Franky a little. He wouldn't be the one to finish Jack and may not even be a crucial help but I don't think he'd be decommissioned before Jack was put down.



How do you answer a hypothetical question? Really? Anyway they'd do it the same way the base has been doing it for months, his hype which is why I said "is his hype too much for you to consider their win possible?" This isn't a show me proof question it's a how do you feel question. Do you feel Jack's hype is equivalent to the levels we've seen from the SH's it's not that complicated. Also it's really more a question to gauge NB's Jack hype.

If anything the entire adult trio is on par to fight. Robin cannot be hit by brute stentgh based off what we have seen
She caught on of the fastest characters thus far (habaku) and has taken hits from building throwing monsters (oars) so she should be fine. Brook is immortal and can just drink milk and get back up.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Lmao and how do you figure Luffy gets stronger arc by arc? This is nothing new, after a big fight Luffy has always gotten stronger, otherwise he would be sitting in the same spot from East Blue to EL.

Training. Same as Zoro and Sanji and the rest.

 

[Tomato God]

You're ****ing joking, right? You think preskip, weakened, wounded, can barely move Zoro is faster than the speed of light? Is that why it took Luffy and Law 20 minutes to reach the palace

Can you just address how ungodly fast that makes Sanji? He cleared the island before doffy could attack the sunny that was right in front of him

 

[ToshiZO]

Training. Same as Zoro and Sanji and the rest.

Training where? On the Ship? How much training can beasts like these get on their own ship?

I'm sure Luffy wasn't training his gear 2nd/3rd on the damn Sunny Go, he would wreck the place. Besides that there are absolutely no hints they make a pitt stop at an island to train, not that I know of anyway.

And him training at the end of the arcs aftrer he has defeated the enemy is not feasible either, since he spends 99% of the time recovering/sleeping and throwing banquets, again it wouldn't be hard to show even hints of training in between.

And you don't need to show me the SBS where Oda says Luffy exercises, it is common sense Luffy exercises. He is constantly running, fighting every arc, he does more than just simple exercise, that doesn't have anything to do with training. Exercise ≠ Training.

Only time training was hinted was gear second, and even that is iffy, as it was more of an idea Luffy had in his head which he hadn't applied IIRC.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Training where? On the Ship? How much training can beasts like these get on their own ship?

I'm sure Luffy wasn't training his gear 2nd/3rd on the damn Sunny Go, he would wreck the place. Besides that there are absolutely no hints they make a pitt stop at an island to train, not that I know of anyway.

And him training at the end of the arcs aftrer he has defeated the enemy is not feasible either, since he spends 99% of the time recovering/sleeping and throwing banquets, again it wouldn't be hard to show even hints of training in between.

And you don't need to show me the SBS where Oda says Luffy exercises, it is common sense Luffy exercises. He is constantly running, fighting every arc, he does more than just simple exercise, that doesn't have anything to do with training. Exercise ≠ Training.

Only time training was hinted was gear second, and even that is iffy, as it was more of an idea Luffy had in his head which he hadn't applied IIRC.

They have a gym. Oda said Luffy exercises a lot, and after the Kuma incident, Luffy tried to train on Amazon Lily to get stronger. How they do it and how they manage it doesn't matter to me.

 

[-Akuma-]

I believe that since g4 is still in a stagery step currently and that he has been pushed to his limits, he can last with the mode longer which would give him a great timespan of attacks. His haki has also been pushed to the limits, so it should be better now, all of that making him stronger, and that's discounting the fact we didn't see gatling attacks from g4 yet, which is possible could happen. As for Law, he sacrificed his life span to create large rooms in dressrosa, so by burrying his stamina to this extent, i expect him to be able to last longer with his rooms now.

As for Zoro, i never said he got stronger. Note that i didn't put dressrosa or Zou before Zoro like i did with Luffy or Law, just like i didn't with Doflamingo. That's because i believe their level didn't change. It's just that i think Zoro was already stronger than Law in dressrosa, only that he didn't get the chance to show it. Since he ran through all his opponents more or less without too much problems, he is uncaped at the moment. And i expect his upperlimits(Asura or higher for example) to be shown as extremely powerful and not that far from dressrosa G4 Luffy

Really Zoro near G4 Luffy, Bogard are you serious right now?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Doesn't matter considering if it goes the way i think it'd go, the Zou power configuration would be

Zou Luffy >= Doflamingo >= Dressrosa Luffy ~ Zou Law >= Zoro > Dressrosa Law

Not only Luffy wasn't healthy when he faced Doflamingo, but he especially grew stronger from Dressrosa. Pretty certain he may even show stronger attacks than King Kong Gun

Wait first off u just made them all equal to each other which not even going to debate this we have our differences but to say zoro who hasn't. Done nothing significant compared to law u make zoro > dress rosa law Tf ?


Edit: I read ur post to someone else I get it I don't agree but I do get it so ignore this message

 

[Bogard]

Really Zoro near G4 Luffy, Bogard are you serious right now?

The way i see Oda's development of Zoro, it's where i expect him to end up be, but then again as of yet, i always rate Zoro lower than my expectations because i may end up being right or wrong, so don't take my expectation as granted. I did say it's how i view things if it goes the way i think it will after all. Until then nothing concrete.

 

[sravan]

I think SH's can beat jack mid diff
some are saying that zorro,sanji & luffy will be standing but i think every SH will be standing with out any major injuries.
SH's have all types of fighters
luffy,zorro,sanji can fight at a close range
robin,ussopp&nami can provide diversions & surprise attacks
while brook,franky,chopper can limit jacks movements.brook can use his soul music,franky can use general franky,chopper can go monster mode.
I think most members are underestimating the crew's strength.They are way better and have a very special attacks that can surprisingly take out enemy

 

[Skull Knight]

Training where? On the Ship? How much training can beasts like these get on their own ship?

cant say about others but zoro trains a lot on sunny/merry.

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[ToshiZO]

cant say about others but zoro trains a lot on sunny/merry.

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I'm aware. Zoro works on strength training on the ship and even after and during arcs. Nothing hints at the other two doing this.

 

[Insidious Smile]

Really Zoro near G4 Luffy, Bogard are you serious right now?

He is obviously delusional.

 

[Bogard]

He is obviously delusional.

Take your salt somewhere else. It's already all over the place in the other thread

cant say about others but zoro trains a lot on sunny/merry.

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That was pretimeskip though. Since the timeskip i don't remember see him do anything else than sleeping or relaxing while on the ship. That said everyone of them obviously trains. I think Oda even said it in an SBS

 

[Skull Knight]

That was pretimeskip though. Since the timeskip i don't remember see him do anything else than sleeping or relaxing while on the ship.

OP Opening 16 at 0:27 he is training on Sunny
[video=youtube;witeODgX5OM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=witeODgX5OM[/video]