Onmyoudon!

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Have we ever seen Naruto using Onmyoudon?

Sure, he has TSB but he still has to use Onmyoudon to neutralize Ninjutsu.

Please answer.
 

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NAruto is the biggest idiot ever. As if he can figure out how to use such a complex jutsu even with rsm the guy still was a dunce and couldn't figure out how he restored Kakashis eye.
 

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Yes we have, and it paled compared to Enton :bdpf:



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naruto is the least skilled with TSB
 

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NAruto is the biggest idiot ever. As if he can figure out how to use such a complex jutsu even with rsm the guy still was a dunce and couldn't figure out how he restored Kakashis eye.

To be fair to Naruto, RSBM grants him an instinctual understanding of chakra and the nature of all things so...

Yes we have, and it paled compared to Enton :bdpf:



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I never actually paid attention that before now. XD

That's whack.
 

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I never actually paid attention that before now. XD

That's whack.

Yep, Kishi basically implied Onmyoudon is only effective against objects with chakra since its purpose is to nullify ninjutsu. That would explain why BZ considers Amaterasu as the strongest physical attack instead of the black balls.
 

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Question!
Have we ever seen Naruto using Onmyoudon?

Sure, he has TSB but he still has to use Onmyoudon to neutralize Ninjutsu.

Please answer.

Naruto never mastered his power during the war, just like Sasuke never mastered his. But for some reason it's ok that Sasuke didn't master his power, but Naruto is stupid for not mastering his.
 

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Onmyodon means yin-yang release. Naruto used that to create a new eye for kakashi.
 

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Naruto never mastered his power during the war, just like Sasuke never mastered his. But for some reason it's ok that Sasuke didn't master his power, but Naruto is stupid for not mastering his.

When two other people have your power right before you, and they master it instantly. And your power is UNIVERSAL COMPREHENSION, (meaning that you learn how things work without actually having to learn anything) any ineptitude from then on is on Naruto. (not to mention all the bijuu he had in his ear telling him how to use his own power)

Rinnegan doesn't come with Universal Comprehension, no one instructed him on how to use his power and his rinnegan even has drawbacks for being new. So yeah, not mastering it in a couple hours is a lot more understandable for Sasuke :tea:
 

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When two other people have your power right before you, and they master it instantly. And your power is UNIVERSAL COMPREHENSION, (meaning that you learn how things work without actually having to learn anything) any ineptitude from then on is on Naruto. (not to mention all the bijuu he had in his ear telling him how to use his own power)

Rinnegan doesn't come with Universal Comprehension, and even has drawbacks for being new. So yeah, not mastering it in a couple hours is a lot more understandable. :tea:

The universal comprehension stuff is BS, it was never supported by the manga.

Both naruto and sasuke are equally slow when it comes to grasping new powers compared to their enemies.

Obito could fully use his MS immediately after awakening it, sasuke couldn't, Obito and madara immediately mastered rikudo senjutsu unlike naruto. This is the trend of the manga, it isn't understandable in sasuke's case only at all since obito instantly knew how to use the rinnegan after implanting it despite not being the original owner while the same can't be said for sasuke.
 

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You need Onmyoudon to do TSB my man
 

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The universal comprehension stuff is BS, it was never supported by the manga.

Both naruto and sasuke are equally slow when it comes to grasping new powers compared to their enemies.

Obito could fully use his MS immediately after awakening it, sasuke couldn't, Obito and madara immediately mastered rikudo senjutsu unlike naruto. This is the trend of the manga, it isn't understandable in sasuke's case only at all since obito instantly knew how to use the rinnegan after implanting it despite not being the original owner while the same can't be said for sasuke.

Madara taught Obito how to use the Six Paths Jutsu
Don't know why Sasuke hesitated using Amaterasu :|
And as for Universal Comprehension being BS....It allowed Madara and Obito to use whatever jutsu they pleased, instantly grasp their powers, and Naruto to use COAT... y is it BS again??? :bdpf:

Cuz it seems like Naruto was given a power where he could instantly understand techniques, whereas Sasuke had to learn on his own
 

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Madara taught Obito how to use the Six Paths Jutsu
Don't know why Sasuke hesitated using Amaterasu :|
And as for Universal Comprehension being BS....It allowed Madara and Obito to use whatever jutsu they pleased, instantly grasp their powers, and Naruto to use COAT... y is it BS again??? :bdpf:

Cuz it seems like Naruto was given a power where he could instantly understand techniques, whereas Sasuke had to learn on his own
It was never said madara & obito had that comprehension thing but naruto. They're just that good with their abilities, it does seem to hold some merit for naruto tho. That's why he was able to heal kakashi & gai, he also mastered flying on his first try. Still that doesn't mean he learned how to use his powers to the fullest extent.
 

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The universal comprehension stuff is BS, it was never supported by the manga.

Both naruto and sasuke are equally slow when it comes to grasping new powers compared to their enemies.

Obito could fully use his MS immediately after awakening it, sasuke couldn't, Obito and madara immediately mastered rikudo senjutsu unlike naruto. This is the trend of the manga, it isn't understandable in sasuke's case only at all since obito instantly knew how to use the rinnegan after implanting it despite not being the original owner while the same can't be said for sasuke.

Obito's potential was lit. Too bad he had to get rekt by boulder.
 

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When two other people have your power right before you, and they master it instantly. And your power is UNIVERSAL COMPREHENSION, (meaning that you learn how things work without actually having to learn anything) any ineptitude from then on is on Naruto. (not to mention all the bijuu he had in his ear telling him how to use his own power)

Rinnegan doesn't come with Universal Comprehension, and even has drawbacks for being new. So yeah, not mastering it in a couple hours is a lot more understandable. :tea:

Naruto gained RSM a different way then Madara and Obito. They both gained it from sealing the 10 tails inside their body. It took Obito time to learn Onmyoudon. He didn't learn Onmyoudon until he gained control over the 10 tails - - That's the difference. Naruto power has nothing to do with the 10 tail beast so he cant' just master his power by gaining control over a tail beast.

Obito destroyed the 3rd Hokage body with TSB - - yet he returned unlike the 4th Hokage's arm. That means he wasn't able to use Onmyoudon there.

Madara never showed us he could us Onmyoudon.

You are wrong about RSM and rinnegan. Rinnegan (eye power) automatically gives the users jutsu they have never possess. They automatically know how to use the jutsu and understands it capability without any previous knowledge or having to practice the jutsu. It's like being given the ability create specific jutsu and the blueprints to those jutsu. The user doesn't have to figure out how to create jutsu from his abilities.

RSM (body power) focuses more on ability. Universal Comprehension is the ability to manipulate chakra in every single possible way and the TSB is the results of that ability. TSB is the only thing the user automatically gains. Everything else requires the user to figure out how to properly apply that ability. That requires times. Like when he healed Kakashi's eye. He wasn't sure that would work. It's like being given the ability to create any jutsu and nothing else. The users most figure out how to create jutsu from his abilities.
 
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It was never said madara & obito had that comprehension thing but naruto. They're just that good with their abilities, it does seem to hold some merit for naruto tho. That's why he was able to heal kakashi & gai, he also mastered flying on his first try. Still that doesn't mean he learned how to use his powers to the fullest extent.

My point was that with the power that he was given he honestly should be the be of the three in at least one area of using his power, but nope. >_> least inventive with TSB, only uses new rasengans and steam release (and that is with the help of the bijuus)

If Madara and Obito didn't have Universal comprehension, and Naruto did, then that would be kinda embarrassing. Could u imagine if Naruto didn't have that power. He probably wouldn't be able to utilize his powers at all :|
 

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Madara taught Obito how to use the Six Paths Jutsu
Don't know why Sasuke hesitated using Amaterasu :|
And as for Universal Comprehension being BS....It allowed Madara and Obito to use whatever jutsu they pleased, instantly grasp their powers, and Naruto to use COAT... y is it BS again??? :bdpf:

Cuz it seems like Naruto was given a power where he could instantly understand techniques, whereas Sasuke had to learn on his own

Madara taught obito about the jutsu, obito never practiced sasuke saw CT before kaguya came but only learnt how to use it before his fight with naruto so it wasn't like he didn't have knowledge. Also it took sasuke many years to learn his portal opening trick. Much slower than obito and madara when it came to rinnegan mastery.

Amaterasu isn't all sasuke's MS grants him he has kagutsuchi and susanoo but it took him time to get these, once again he was slow.

Madara and obito were never said to have that power, the source you are using to support your stance says they don't have it and the form they use and the one used by naruto are different.

Naruto never used COAT, yup it's BS.

Truth is naruto and sasuke are slow

Obito's potential was lit. Too bad he had to get rekt by boulder.

True, he was the only uchiha in canon to have awakened sharingan with two tomo. His potential was held back by the reincarnation BS. Just like itachi
 
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