Explanation behind Ashura's avatar

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hagoromo said that by training hard and suffering the chakra within his body bloomed
viz said "bodily chakra bloomed" which means yang

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uchihas sprout special chakra too ,in there eyes though,and it's a yin chakra

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C mentioned that sasuke's chakra resembled that genjutsu

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he's talking about this one and even questions if it's genjutsu

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the yin chakra sprounting in obito's ms reacting with hashi's yang chakra made yin/yang rods when obito awakened ms

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naruto only had kurama's yang chakra at first and minato wanted naruto to control kurama mixing their chakra together
and when naruto grabs a portion of kurama's yang chakra in bijuu chakra mode he slightly starts to resemble ashura a little

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and more in bijuu mode with all the chakra

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and when naruto gathers tons of nature energy kurama almost completely resembles ashura's avatar

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Its the opposite of the uchiha,hatred makes them sprout yin chakra to change their eyes
love from or for other people made ashura bloom bodily chakra that made his body change
naruto's body changes when kurama's yang mixes with his chakra;ashura's form changed when his bodily chakra finally bloomed

 

[NarutoX28]

Simple. It's just a manifestation of his own chakra.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yeah pretty much but senjutsu also had something to do with his rsm asura cloak because the naruto that fought Rinnegan Sasuke had Yin kurama in him.

Senju naturally inherit the yang energy of the sage, naruto being senju lineage and ashura incarnate had kurama help bring out that yellow energy. Kurama having being a part of the juubi at one point.

 

[SenseiSama]

Indra and Ashura both inherited some of the Juubi's chakra, giving them the ability to use chakra avatars. Ashura's avatar is mostly based off Yang energy while Indra's is based off Yin.

But Naruto's chakra avatar is made based off the Uzumaki seal which allows them to use BM in chakra form (like a JuubiJin) as opposed to a physical form like Killer B and Gaara.

 

[shelke]

There is no such thing as an Ashura's avatar.

 

[SenseiSama]

There is no such thing as an Ashura's avatar.

Yes there is, he had the 3 headed avatar similar RSM Naruto's BM

 

[shelke]

Yes there is, he had the 3 headed avatar similar RSM Naruto's BM

That is a BM Avatar with clones merged together. Just like Naruto's. Like I said, no such thing as an Indra's PS or Ashura's Avatar.

 

[SenseiSama]

That is a BM Avatar with clones merged together. Just like Naruto's. Like I said, no such thing as an Indra's PS or Ashura's Avatar.

PS comes from Indra's DNA, it's his original ability. And Naruto's avatar re-enforces the idea that Ashura inherited some of the Juubi's chakra because bijuu chakra is needed to use one, so Naruto's ability to use the 3 headed avatar would be due to him being a descendant of Ashura and therefore having the ability to utilize bijuu chakra and NE in a similar fashion.

 

[shelke]

PS comes from Indra's DNA, it's his original ability. And Naruto's avatar re-enforces the idea that Ashura inherited some of the Juubi's chakra because bijuu chakra is needed to use one, so Naruto's ability to use the 3 headed avatar would be due to him being a descendant of Ashura and therefore having the ability to utilize bijuu chakra and NE in a similar fashion.

It's just good chakra control provided by RSM. It is STILL a BM avatar. Just because it merges clones together doesn't make it something different.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

It's just good chakra control provided by RSM. It is STILL a BM avatar. Just because it merges clones together doesn't make it something different.

you have to be a jinchuriki to use tailed beast mode....asura was not a jinchuriki

 

[Angelic.]

Kurama must be special

 

[shelke]

you have to be a jinchuriki to use tailed beast mode....asura was not a jinchuriki

Proof of this would be? Thought so. He never inherited his father's special Chakra genes. That's all I need to know.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Proof of this would be? Thought so. He never inherited his father's special Chakra genes. That's all I need to know.

so you simply ignore kishimoto's own words?...thank god kishi >>>> you

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[shelke]

so you simply ignore kishimoto's own words?...thank god kishi >>>> you

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Never inherited the genes, and was a no-good cow-fodder? Check:

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He was the one because of whom the Sage even created the Bijuus and who gained power through cooperation? Check:

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He never inherited Sage's strong chakra genes. That honor went to Indra. What does that scan even prove? You never have anything bright to say, do you?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

That is a BM Avatar with clones merged together. Just like Naruto's. Like I said, no such thing as an Indra's PS or Ashura's Avatar.

Bm avatar is naruto mimicking Asura's avatar. Asura's avatar came first and he was never a jinchuuriki otherwise the small bijuus Hagoromoo just created would've been with either Indra or Asura (neither bijuus know who they are). If it wasn't for Asura chakra that can create an avatar like that, naruto would be like all the other jinchuurikis with their transformation.
During part one where everything was red cloak then transformation into the full bijuu with skin and actual teeth. Not an avatar that copied Ashura.

 

[shelke]

Bm avatar is naruto mimicking Asura's avatar. Asura's avatar came first and he was never a jinchuuriki otherwise the small bijuus Hagoromoo just created would've been with either Indra or Asura (neither bijuus know who they are). If it wasn't for Asura chakra that can create an avatar like that, naruto would be like all the other jinchuurikis with their transformation.

During part one where everything was red cloak then transformation into the full bijuu with skin and actual teeth. Not an avatar that copied Ashura.

Dude, it's JUST a Bijuu Mode; a manifestation of Bijuu chakra. Naruto isn't mimicking anybody. One can say that Ashura created the BM first or started the tradiation? Fair enough. I am not disputing that at all. But that avatar in no way belongs to him alone. You can say that it's a "Recurring Tech" because of the "Recurring Chakra."

Naruto's isn't like others because he's Ashura reborn (or his chakra influences him). Just like Hashirama was. Just like Sasuke and Madara are for Indra. In a way, you are right in mimicry, but this argument becomes invalid when it's Rebirth of the same man.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Dude, it's JUST a Bijuu Mode; a manifestation of Bijuu chakra. Naruto isn't mimicking anybody. One can say that Ashura created the BM first or started the tradiation? Fair enough. I am not disputing that at all. But that avatar in no way belongs to him alone. You can say that it's a "Recurring Tech" because of the "Recurring Chakra."

This is what a bijuu mode transformation mode traditionally looks like..

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This is how the bijuu mode transformation was originally suppose to look like, but because naruto's an ashura incarnate he copied over Ashura's avatar. Ashura himself can't use any bijuu transformation because he's not a jinchuuriki, he wasn't even classified as one in the databook either.

Naruto's isn't like others because he's Ashura reborn (or his chakra influences him). Just like Hashirama was. Just like Sasuke and Madara are for Indra. In a way, you are right in mimicry, but this argument becomes invalid when it's Rebirth of the same man.

Then why argue that it's not lol? Asura's avatar came first and he created it from the life energy he inherited from his father. Before Naruto awakened ashura's life energy, he was going through the same bijuu transformation as Bee, kushina, and all the other jinchuurikis.

 

[Angelic.]

I'd think if he was a jin Kurama would have mentioned him.

 

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Never inherited the genes, and was a no-good cow-fodder? Check:

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He was the one because of whom the Sage even created the Bijuus and who gained power through cooperation? Check:

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He never inherited Sage's strong chakra genes. That honor went to Indra. What does that scan even prove? You never have anything bright to say, do you?

It says in the viz that ashuras bodily chakra bloomed within him and he acquired the same power as his older brother
All I'm saying is that when the bodily chakra bloomed it was massive amounts of yang and that's why he had that avatar,like how naruro takes on that form when he filters kuramas yang chakra and it combines with his chakra

 

[shelke]

It says in the viz that ashuras bodily chakra bloomed within him and he acquired the same power as his older brother
All I'm saying is that when the bodily chakra bloomed it was massive amounts of yang and that's why he had that avatar,like how naruto takes on that form when he filters kuramas yang chakra and it combines with his chakra

It has nothing to do with him not inheriting the Sage's chakra. Whatever he bloomed doesn't interest me, nor am I talking about it. All evidence points to this being a Bijuu Avatar. BM is created through ones own chakra and Bijuu chakra. So, no one is denying that.