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Idc about the gay parents. But that kid will kill himself or maybe hate his parents because the moment other kids realise his parents are gay he a dead maafuker

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Was talking about my own personal experience and opinion bro. I accept homosexuality but don't think its that normal or something

I understand that, but the reason I challenged your opinion is because if you are in situation where you have a chance to vote for or against adopting rights for homosexuals and you vote no, then your opinion has an impact on the lives of people that are as good parents as the rest of us. In matters like these we should always rationalize our opinions, especially when we are talking about the life of others.

Homosexuality has been around since the dawn of men, and if it would be so bad for humanity then clearly evolution would have gotten rid of it. Anyhow, I don't see how it not being normal is enough to deny them adoption rights. I only see it as a form of bullying.

There are millions of orphan children all over the world that would be happy to have loving parents. And that should be all that matters. That you have parents that love you and provide you with an healthy enviroment to live in.
 

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You do know not a single study has found children of lesbian or gay parents to be disadvantaged in any way relative to heterosexual parents right. In terms of sexual development, they grow up pretty much the same. Your nieces could've been gay all along, and yes both of them, despite the odds, it does happen.

I don't care about gay debates anymore but this is false

 

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I don't care about gay debates anymore but this is false


That study has been from time and time again proven to be flawed study.

Regnerus compared stabile families to un-stabile families.
 

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Yeah it depends on the child. If the child is comfortable to live with parents of the same *** then I see no problem but if the child feels upset and uncomfortable when they see their friends/peers having heterosexual parents then you need to act according to the adopted child's feelings.

Acceptance is the key to success.
 
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I don't care about gay debates anymore but this is false


Interesting, so it seems there is indeed quite an effect, a few of them in fact, at least from that article. However it still shouldn't change their right to adopt. Despite the effects it may cause, like another person above posted, having parents at all is better than none, despite the risks.
 

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Yeah it depends on the child. If the child is comfortable to live with parents of the same *** then I see no problem but if the child feels upset and uncomfortable when they see their friends/peers having parents then you need to act according to the adopted child's feelings.

Acceptance is the key to success.

Babies don't really understand until their older, so parents don't have to worry.

It mostly kids 5 and up who decides if they approve of the parents adopting them before actual being adopted.
 

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They also deserve to adopt a child...what so wrong with this???
 

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I think its right to have both a father and a mother. They serve diff purposes. Even in the animal kingdom there are certain things a mother or father does that the other cant. All I know is my Mother unconditional love and My father teaches me to be a man. I wouldnt know anything about same *** parents tho
 

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Interesting, so it seems there is indeed quite an effect, a few of them in fact, at least from that article. However it still shouldn't change their right to adopt. Despite the effects it may cause, like another person above posted, having parents at all is better than none, despite the risks.

Actually it's not interesting as that exact study has been debunked before.





" Regnerus misclassified a significant number of children as being raised in same-*** households. Based on a re-evaluation of the data, it concludes there are minimal differences in outcome for children raised by same-*** parents and married opposite-*** parents. "



"They’ve gone back to the raw data and reexamined — and, they say, fixed — every step of Regnerus’s analysis. Simon Cheng of the University of Connecticut and Brian Powell of Indiana University say that their results, published recently in the journal that ran the original study, show that Regnerus made extremely questionable assumptions and committed elementary “data-cleaning” mistakes. When these mistakes and assumptions are accounted for, they say, the number of meaningful differences observed between adults who grew up with gay and straight parents drops to just about zero."

and lastly the author of the study himself admits the flaws:



"Regnerus admits that the foundation of his study is too weak to draw the conclusions that many have made"
 

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Oh, look. Another gay thread. *rolls eyes* 2015 already ended, didn't it?

They can be as good as or better than heterosexual parents, sure, but that doesn't mean the upbringing will be as healthy. A child needs a mother and a father (not figures, actual mom and dad) throughout their life, and mostly through their adolescence, to gain different qualities and virtues from members of both sexes. However you try to twist it, having two "fathers" or "mothers" will undoubtedly influence the child in one way or another, and whether or not the changes benefit the child more than they hinder it is another question. Also, why the hell is everyone talking like gay parents are angels personified, while hetero ones are worthless scum? Lmao, most of you probably haven't even seen a gay couple and you draw your conclusions from how gays are portrayed in media.

With that being said, my personal take is that it depends on the gay couple doing the adoption. However, a hetero couple that's equally good at parenting as a gay couple will always be the better choice.
 
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THE Pot Calling the Kettle Black. Racist Islamophobic Bastard.



Before you two embarrass yourself anymore and get infracted or banned, how about you just don't? Stop, relax, and just calm down. We're all friends here.
 

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What always gets me about these topics is how we leave the the opportunity for any answer based on opinion but then act like any other opinion that isn't a yes is the wrong one.
 

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Oh, look. Another gay thread. *rolls eyes* 2015 already ended, didn't it?

They can be as good as or better than heterosexual parents, sure, but that doesn't mean the upbringing will be as healthy. A child needs a mother and a father (not figures, actual mom and dad) throughout their life, and mostly through their adolescence, to gain different qualities and virtues from members of both sexes. However you try to twist it, having two "fathers" or "mothers" will undoubtedly influence the child in one way or another. Also, why the hell is everyone talking like gay parents are angels personified, while hetero ones are worthless scum? Lmao, most of you probably haven't even seen a gay couple.

With that being said, my personal take is that it depends on the gay couple doing the adoption. However, a hetero couple that's equally good at parenting as a gay couple will always be the better choice.

Firstly "that doesn't mean the upbringing will be as healthy" <--- based on what grounds? Why does a child need a father and a mother? It seems that only thing that child truly needs are loving parents like countless studies have shown. Please provide some back up for your arguments.

This isn't about which one is better. It's about the fact that gay parents and hetero parents should have equal rights to apply for adopting a child.

Giving gays adopting rights isn't going to change the criteria for adopting parents. The process won't change. Ofcourse always the potentially best parents will get picked.
 

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Gay people are generally better people.

Well, that's a lie. Everyone is different. Everyone can be dicks, no matter sexual orientation, gender, age, etc...Don't make large statements like that. Only turns more people off of accepting homosexuality.
 
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