Was Naruto Sasukes actual equal before this..

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Toads, reflexes, sensing, clones and removing clothes are answer to MS Sasuke.

C/B-rank wind jutsu are enought to destroy MS Susanoo at his peak.

Also I dont think that any MS Susanoo version can tank Rasengan barrage.

What?
 

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Toads, reflexes, sensing, clones and removing clothes are answer to MS Sasuke.

Also I dont think that any MS Susanoo version can tank Rasengan barrage.

Madara tanked odoma rasengan in just ribcage susanoo. Anything significantly higher negs a barrage of rasengan.

The only characters that have shown ability to sense amaterasu are those with rikudou sensing. Normal sensors have not been able to sense it before. Summoning toads(the big kind) is just providing biger targets for amaterasu.

Face it. SM Naruto without the two great sages summoned gets manhandled by MS Sasuke.
 

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lol. you want a no intel battle. How does he see Sasuke about to use Amaterasu?

He senses it building up...

SM Naruto evades Amaterasu? What a load of nonsense. FRS is easily evaded by Sasuke and Naruto can only use two till his steam runs out. He won't have the entire division of frogs summoned by Ma to help him this time.

Yes :| He senses it building up, uses clones to block Sasuke's line of sight. You're acting like MS Sasuke's techs don't take a lot of stamina out of him. He can summon frogs if needed
 

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KCM Naruto with Danger Sensing and Chakra Sensing could not sense Amaterasu build-up, so I don't expect him to sense chakra build-up within his eye.
 

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He senses it building up...



Yes :| He senses it building up, uses clones to block Sasuke's line of sight. You're acting like MS Sasuke's techs don't take a lot of stamina out of him. He can summon frogs if needed

Refer to the post just above yours
 

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I was wrong. Danzo wind jutsu just stopped Susanoo movements

I mean, even then, Kakuzu's Futon is a B Rank ninjutsu yet it's described as a very potent Futon as well:

A blast of heavy artillery, leaving behind a severe scar!!

Databook said:
A violent "Wind Release ninjutsu" released by one of Kakuzu's five hearts.
A tornado-like mass is compressed until it has a very high density and is then released. With the wind pressure raised to its utmost limits , once this technique hits the target, everyone will be swept off their feet~~~. If this technique is used by someone who has mastered Wind "nature transformation," the whirling storm can blow up a vast range, inflicting massive damage on both the target and their surroundings.
 

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Madara tanked odoma rasengan in just ribcage susanoo. Anything significantly higher negs a barrage of rasengan.

The only characters that have shown ability to sense amaterasu are those with rikudou sensing. Normal sensors have not been able to sense it before. Summoning toads(the big kind) is just providing biger targets for amaterasu.

Face it. SM Naruto without the two great sages summoned gets manhandled by MS Sasuke.

Stop comparing Sasuke to Madara. Did Danzo not tear Sasuke's Susanoo with a B-Rank Jutsu? What do you think FRS would do??

So, you're saying SM Naruto is a normal sensor? :|

EDIT: Also like I said, Sasuke can't just keep using Amaterasu. Remember this is MS Sasuke
 

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UchihasRightfulHeir;20315721[QUOTE said:
]Madara tanked odoma rasengan in just ribcage susanoo. Anything significantly higher negs a barrage of rasengan.

It was enhanced EMS Madara whose powerful chakra made his Susanoo stronger.

The only characters that have shown ability to sense amaterasu are those with rikudou sensing. Normal sensors have not been able to sense it before

Youre right.



Summoning toads(the big kind) is just providing biger targets for amaterasu.

Post Kage Summit MS Sasuke cant spam Amaterasu enough to burn all toads

Face it. SM Naruto without the two great sages summoned gets manhandled by MS Sasuke.
Not by post Kage Summit MS Sasuke.
 

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Stop comparing Sasuke to Madara. Did Danzo not tear Sasuke's Susanoo with a B-Rank Jutsu? What do you think FRS would do??

So, you're saying SM Naruto is a normal sensor? :|

EDIT: Also like I said, Sasuke can't just keep using Amaterasu. Remember this is MS Sasuke

V2 Susano'o tanked Kirin, so no it won't.

SM Naruto isn't a normal sensor, but KCM Naruto is a very astute sensor yet couldn't sense his pressure build-up and he has Danger Sensing yet not only could he not sense Itachi's chakra build-up, but he also couldn't even determine if it was Amaterasu or Tsukyomi.

From what I recall, KCM Naruto actually has superior chakra sensing feats such as sensing Kin's chakra within a dimension where he shouldn't have been able to sense at all.
 

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V2 Susano'o tanked Kirin, so no it won't.

SM Naruto isn't a normal sensor, but KCM Naruto is a very astute sensor yet couldn't sense his pressure build-up and he has Danger Sensing yet not only could he not sense Itachi's chakra build-up, but he also couldn't even determine if it was Amaterasu or Tsukyomi.

From what I recall, KCM Naruto actually has superior chakra sensing feats such as sensing Kin's chakra within a dimension where he shouldn't have been able to sense at all.

Show me a scan of Sasuke's Susanoo tanking kirin :|

Sasuke isn't Edo Itachi

What does that have to do with anything?

Sasuke Susanoo was taking down by a B-Rank Jutsu, so I think Naruto's S-Rank Jutsu will finish it.
 

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Show me a scan of Sasuke's Susanoo tanking kirin :|


Show me a scan proving that Sasuke's V2 Susano'o is inferior to Itachi's V2 Susano'o?

Sasuke isn't Edo Itachi

Edo Itachi was building pressure for significantly longer than what is normal among Amaterasu users and KCM Naruto still couldn't sense it.

What does that have to do with anything?

Superior Sensing feats from KCM Naruto yet he couldn't sense it, so neither can SM Naruto.

Sasuke Susanoo was taking down by a B-Rank Jutsu, so I think Naruto's S-Rank Jutsu will finish it.

You think Raikiri can also bust through Sasuke's Susano'o?

Using logic such as that doesn't work. Majority of Kisame's techniques are B Rank yet they're some of the most powerful in the entire manga. Actually, Hiruzen's techniques are B Rank despite being talented in ninjutsu and being capable of stalemating Spiral Zetsu's Buddha's Ninjutsu.
 

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Show me a scan proving that Sasuke's V2 Susano'o is inferior to Itachi's V2 Susano'o?



Edo Itachi was building pressure for significantly longer than what is normal among Amaterasu users and KCM Naruto still couldn't sense it.



Superior Sensing feats from KCM Naruto yet he couldn't sense it, so neither can SM Naruto.



You think Raikiri can also bust through Sasuke's Susano'o?

Using logic such as that doesn't work. Majority of Kisame's techniques are B Rank yet they're some of the most powerful in the entire manga. Actually, Hiruzen's techniques are B Rank despite being talented in ninjutsu and being capable of stalemating Spiral Zetsu's Buddha's Ninjutsu.

- We barely saw his Susanoo
- Naruto was thinking about something else, and anyways this is War Arc SM Naruto so he would know what Amateratsu is
- Nope
- Okay I get what you're saying, but Danzo's B-Rank jutsu was enhanced which is why it was so effective. Obviously since Naruto is in SM all of his attacks will be enhanced as well
 

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- We barely saw his Susanoo

And nothing suggests his was significantly weaker. It should be stronger considering Itachi's Fatigued state when he did tank Kirin.

- Naruto was thinking about something else, and anyways this is War Arc SM Naruto so he would know what Amateratsu is

Naruto knew both of his MS abilities, so he had intel.

Naruto was entirely focused on Itachi. Just because he's mentally processing one thing does not mean he's incapable of concentrating on his opponent.


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Superior Chakra Sensing yet SM Naruto can suddenly sense it?

- Okay I get what you're saying, but Danzo's B-Rank jutsu was enhanced which is why it was so effective. Obviously since Naruto is in SM all of his attacks will be enhanced as well

Danzo attacked the rear, so Sasuke was incapable of countering it with his shield.

That is true, but how do we know if it compares to Kirin which barely busted through Sick Itachi's V2 Susano'o?
 

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He senses it building up...

Yes :| He senses it building up, uses clones to block Sasuke's line of sight. You're acting like MS Sasuke's techs don't take a lot of stamina out of him. He can summon frogs if needed

If you think he can muster up a speed greater than V2 Ae, who dodged BEHIND an already made flame, then you are being silly. SM Naruto is no where near Ae's speed in V1 even. MS is also faster, who, once healed, showed six times faster reflexes than killer Bee in V1:

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He jumps up and onto his back, rolls four times and Bee has not moved an inch from point A to B. He also dodged Ae's Lightning chop attack easily AND followed it up with an attack:

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He dodges FRS easily. It would be a cake walk for Sasuke.

Sasuke also was faster than V1, as he dodged AND landed a hit on him. That's twice the reflex action and Bee backs it up, as he compares Sasuke's speed and reflexes to Ae.
 
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And nothing suggests his was significantly weaker. It should be stronger considering Itachi's Fatigued state when he did tank Kirin.



Naruto knew both of his MS abilities, so he had intel.

Naruto was entirely focused on Itachi. Just because he's mentally processing one thing does not mean he's incapable of concentrating on his opponent.



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Superior Chakra Sensing yet SM Naruto can suddenly sense it?



Danzo attacked the rear, so Sasuke was incapable of countering it with his shield.

That is true, but how do we know if it compares to Kirin which barely busted through Sick Itachi's V2 Susano'o?

-I don't think Itachi's sickness effected his eye powers. I mean like his Susanoo still had the same durability, but he couldn't use it as long as if he was healthy. Because if we're going like that, then most of Sasuke's techs wouldn't be as strong as he is basically blind.
-No, Naruto was asking him a question so he wasn't focused atm
-When I said nope I was referring to Raikiri being able to bust Sasuke's Susanoo
-Like I said I doubt his Susanoo durability was any weaker.
 

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If you think he can muster up a speed greater than V2 Ae, who dodged BEHIND an already made flame, then you are being silly. SM Naruto is no where near Ae's speed in V1 even. MS is also faster, who, once healed, showed six times faster reflexes than killer Bee in V1:

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He dodges FRS easily.

Sasuke also was faster than V1, as he dodged AND landed a hit on him. That's twice the reflex action and Bee backs it up, as he compares Sasuke's speed and reflexes to Ae.

And Naruto dodged the 3rd Raikage. Also, MS Sasuke isn't in the best shape
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