Did SasuSaku Exist Pre-Kaguya Revival Arc?

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No actually. I posted threads about it a while back when the manga was still happening that went down well.

Get real now, in those threads you were talking about what happened in the manga before 698 which marked Sasuke's big change which you like so much. Before there were any relationships, families, and children.

But in this thread you claimed that their family is abusive. Which is literally out of your ass like he said. You read the final chapters, Gaiden, novels?, and watched the movie.

That's exactly like saying Adult Sasuke is trying to kill Naruto or destroy Konoha. :| False and distorted logic.
 

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lol That's about as valid as someone saying "NaruHina and InoSai are quite abusive, anyone with half a brain can see it." Yea, completely absurd.

That's such a retarded comparison. InoSai and Naruhina don't have a history of physical abuse and emotional manipulation, unless you can show me panels of the same.

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It's pretty disgusting how you think all of this is okay just because he doesn't try to kill her in the last two chapters out of 700 chapters.

As much disgusting is sasusaku in the manga the fans who condone such things or celebrate "canon status" is even more disgusting and frightening.
 
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Get real now, in those threads you were talking about what happened in the manga before 698 which marked Sasuke's big change which you like so much. Before there were any relationships, families, and children.

But in this thread you claimed that their family is abusive. Which is literally out of your ass like he said. You read the final chapters, Gaiden, novels?, and watched the movie.

That's exactly like saying Adult Sasuke is trying to kill Naruto or destroy Konoha. :| False and distorted logic.

I commented how I didn't like how the family drama was finished in Gaiden. I still would not like to be in that family at all. Also Sasuke wanting to destroy Konoha isn't really so much like a relationship where there's personal history and the history MATTERS. The fact that these two managed to resolve every single thing off-panel is a miracle but congrats to em, at the very least two of my least favourite characters produced one of my favourites so- can't go wrong really.
 

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I commented how I didn't like how the family drama was finished in Gaiden. I still would not like to be in that family at all. Also Sasuke wanting to destroy Konoha isn't really so much like a relationship where there's personal history and the history MATTERS. The fact that these two managed to resolve every single thing off-panel is a miracle but congrats to em, at the very least two of my least favourite characters produced one of my favourites so- can't go wrong really.

@Green: There, now that's a much more reasonable thing to say. I agree.

@Bold: Lol, funny how things turn out sometimes. :lol
 

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Keep crying deadP. everyone know you are troll
I commented how I didn't like how the family drama was finished in Gaiden. I still would not like to be in that family at all.
No one asked you
Also Sasuke wanting to destroy Konoha isn't really so much like a relationship where there's personal history and the history MATTERS.
Shouldn't you pass rest of your days bashing naruto for bringing sasuke back then
The fact that these two managed to resolve every single thing off-panel is a miracle but congrats to em, at the very least two of my least favourite characters produced one of my favourites so- can't go wrong really.
:lol this guy calls the whole family dysfuctional without any proof then changes track :lmao: Hypocrite
 

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It's pretty disgusting how you think all of this is okay just because he doesn't try to kill her in the last two chapters out of 700 chapters.

As much disgusting is sasusaku in the manga the fans who condone such things or celebrate "canon status" is even more disgusting and frightening.

That's such a retarded comparison. InoSai and Naruhina don't have a history of physical abuse and emotional manipulation, unless you can show me panels of the same.

SasuSaku don't have that sort of history since Sasuke's reform so it's a completely fair comparison. What's not fair is holding someone accountable or claiming that he still does whatever bad deeds he did in the past even after said person completely changes his ways for the better. Not only that but accusing him of still doing those deeds when that's completely false.

This is exactly what you are doing. :| Not that any reasonable person would take such statements seriously.

You either can't process themes such as redemption and atonement (in which I would feel sorry for you), or you are simply a troll/ obsessive hater who's still annoyed about the pairing. We all know it's the later.
 
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SasuSaku don't have that sort of history since Sasuke's reform so it's a completely fair comparison. What's not fair is holding someone accountable or claiming that he still does whatever bad deeds he did in the past even after said person completely changes his ways for the better. Not only that but accusing him of still doing those deeds when that's simply completely false.

This is exactly what you are doing. :| Not that any reasonable person would take just statements seriously.

You either can't process themes such as redemption and atonement, or you are simply a troll/ obsessive hater who's still annoyed about the pairing. We all know it's the later.

Lol that's exactly what I said.

It's pretty disgusting how you think all of this is okay just because he doesn't try to kill her in the last two chapters out of 700 chapters.

You think 698 chapters of treating her like dirt under her feet can be brushed aside simple because he doesn't try to kill her in the last two chapters

Lol

Also since you so insist what has sasuke done towards sakura to make up for 698 chapters?. Not that murder attempts can be ever forgiven and forgotten.

This is exactly what people mean when they say sasusaku is terribly written, do you comprehend?
 

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You think 698 chapters of treating her like dirt under his feet

Anyone can realise how dumb this post is when part 2 consists of 455 chaps,Sasuke got introduced after 60 chapters and interaction is at max of 25 chapters :lol my sides
He even saved Hebi thinking of team 7 around chapter 415

But But then again Do sasuke fans really think Sasuke will meet S06P :sigar:
 
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Lol that's exactly what I said.

No that's not what you said, you said it's (present tense) abusive.

SasuSaku don't have that sort of history since Sasuke's reform so it's a completely fair comparison. What's not fair is holding someone accountable or claiming that he still does whatever bad deeds he did in the past even after said person completely changes his ways for the better. Not only that but accusing him of still doing those deeds when that's completely false.

You think 698 chapters of treating her like dirt under her feet can be brushed aside simple because he doesn't try to kill her in the last two chapters

Lol

Also since you so insist what has sasuke done towards sakura to make up for 698 chapters?. Not that murder attempts can be ever forgiven and forgotten.

This is exactly what people mean when they say sasusaku is terribly written, do you comprehend?

First of all you might want to check the scans I posted at the start of the thread, there's no "698 chapters of treating her like dirt".

Secondly, it's not about him "not killing her in the last two chapters", he completely changed as a person. From a person trying to destroy the village before deciding to control the world, to a person protecting the village and the world. Part of this change included him apologizing for everything he's done to Sakura, and reciprocating her feelings. Sure it was rushed, and she seemed to let him off the hook quite easily, but there were a lot of time skips and blank periods during which they got closer together to the point where they married. It's terribly developed and rushed yes. But is it consistent with some of your bullshit claims? No.

So like I said:


You either can't process themes such as redemption and atonement (in which I would feel sorry for you), or you are simply a troll/ obsessive hater who's still annoyed about the pairing. We all know it's the later.
 
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No, and neither did Naruto x Hinata. The only pairing that made sense was Naruto x Sakura. This was the only one with development and potential. Sakura and Hinata both had pointless one-sided feelings that were never returned. Hinata got her face bashed in by Nagato and Naruto still didn't indulge her.

Sasuke always found Sakura irritating. There was no mutual love between them, or even slight lingering feelings from Sasuke's side. Did he protect her as a comrade? So, what? That doesn't prove squat as that is what team-mates do. If both of these girls even had a shred of self-respect, they would have moved on.

I mean, one put herself boned on the large rock and the other got choked for instigating a kill she had no right too. Both of these pairings are cancerous and laughable.
 

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No, and neither did Naruto x Hinata. The only pairing that made sense was Naruto x Sakura. This was the only one with development and potential. Sakura and Hinata both had pointless one-sided feelings that were never returned. Hinata got her face bashed in by Nagato and Naruto still didn't indulge her.

Sasuke always found Sakura irritating. There was no mutual love between them, or even slight lingering feelings from Sasuke's side. Did he protect her as a comrade? So, what? That doesn't prove squat as that is what team-mates do. If both of these girls even had a shred of self-respect, they would have moved on.

I mean, one put herself boned on the large rock and the other got choked for instigating a kill she had no right too. Both of these pairings are cancerous and laughable.
Tbh NaruSaku wasn't that great either. They should of found other people
 

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maybe i'm wrong, maybe my team7 nostalgic is blinding me and i'm just as blind and tastless as naruto and sakura. but that's okay, i'll gladly walk the same path as my favorite squad. :lol

lol what?
 

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No i've just done it all before. Now shoo, wasn't talking to you.

Lmao, no you haven't and we went over this already. You don't need to try and save your ego, it's not lost from 1 mistake on an anime forum.

Apparently i'm crazy for this idea and this notion has never been thought by anybody ever before :')

I already laid it out for you perfectly clear which made you back track and post something more reasonable.

Now another hater spewed such nonsense and you latched on to it as if it means anything lmao. There is no shame in making mistakes bro we all do, what's shameful is making the same mistake again after realizing it's faults. ;)

2 Things that ruin any chances of NB being a place of reason:

1- Trolling / hate talk

2- Ego

It's like people are in Izanami, they won't go back on their word even if it's completely wrong and they had initially acknowledged that after a reasonable discussion, because every day is a new day and "hey look another idiot said the same thing so I guess I'm not crazy" xd. Until people learn to accept the truth / their mistakes, we are forever stuck in these endless loops.

Example:

Dude #1: "Adult Sasuke wants to control the world."

Dude #2: "Dafuq you talking about you read the ending, Gaiden, and watched the movie right?"

Dude #1: "Oh, well yea but I meant to say I do not like how he's good now all of a sudden, going from wanting to destroy the village and the world to wanting to protect them is a miracle.

Dude #2: "Sure, ok"

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Dude #3: "Adult Sasuke totally wants to take over the world 8D"

Dude #1: "Yea dude, apparently this is a crazy idea that no one ever thought of @_@"

Dude #2: *Facepalm*


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#Narutobase :sdo:
 
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The change from Sasuke part one to Gaiden Sasuke is Naruto beat the meanest and negativity out of Sasuke and Sakura capitalize on that.
 

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Tbh NaruSaku wasn't that great either. They should of found other people

Better or not is subjective. I am looking at this from plot perspective, and within that domain, it was the only pairing that should have found culmination. It had the solid footing, slow-burn development and proper instances of change on Sakura's part.

The editing team obviously went for the popular opinion, as NH and SS didn't exist till 699. They had no basis in the story itself. None at all. Kishimoto also killed off Neji to create NH; I have read the interview myself. That says a lot where that pairing lay as Naruto never moved on. He only went to Hinata when Sasuke accepted Sakura and left him behind. That makes Hinata, literally, a rebound girl; Naruto had no choice BUT to go to Hinata. NH t*wats can deny it all they want, it doesn't change anything.

SS was hilariously one-sided as well. Naruto didn't blatantly reject Hinata, but even after she gave her life for him (survived by a grace of miracle), he didn't accept her. That is just a big a slap, heck bigger, than Sasuke repeatedly throwing the leech off himself. He openly rebuffed Sakura, called her annoying (which she always was, like Hinata) repeatedly (till only a few hours before the final battle’s decisive end) and didn't shy away from roughing her up, which she rightfully deserved.

These are the two pairings in a nutshell. Anyone deluding him or herself that SS or NH had a past are being ****ing absurd. Naruto didn't value Hinata's sacrifice at all. He didn’t value her from that angle at all. She was just another girl to him. Another civilian he would have mourned over because of his gushing messiah complex. He discarded it as unimportant and kept chasing her till Sakura didn't drop him like a dead weight ... and Hinata accepted him openly. I mean, that chick has no shame or self-respect. Which, in my eyes, is a lot worse than Sasuke choking Sakura, as she WAS there to kill him. No person will respond to that in kind. No one. Hinata committed suicide to save him, and Naruto was … yeah, whatever! Where art thou, Sasuke … and Sakura too?

Sakura is no different; just as shameless and petty as Hinata. She kept relentlessly chasing Sasuke, despite him not desiring her at all. He told her many times that she annoyed him. I mean, I get it, Sasuke is insanely good looking, so much so, that Mei was wetting herself in a dangerous situation. But come on! Should self-worth be kept aside for looks? It says a lot about her.

If you look at NS, then there was respect from both sides. Sakura hitting him was never meant to be taken seriously; it was always comic relief. In East and Southeast Asia, men are also taught not to hit women; the way it should be! Sakura was slowly beginning to understand him. Her willingness to kill Sasuke was a huge step in moving on from her unhealthy obsession for him. She was slowly giving value to Naruto, realizing that he loves her a lot - though, she will always be at second place in Naruto's heart. The big portion is Sauce's property :cool:.

She even used that realization to try to dissuade him from pursuing Sasuke. That was a huge step for her. People don’t realize that it was an unconscious acceptance of his love for her. She talked about Sasuke less and less, and gave more attention to Naruto. She kept on realizing more and more that "Sasuke just doesn't care." That was also a big thought on the issue. A decisive one on her part. She had FINALLY realized, that despite dropping everything behind him, Sasuke never cared about her. She literally articulated it in her head.

Now, look at Naruto. Hinata got left behind and trapped in IT. He never, not ONCE, thought about her. He tried to keep Sakura safe. She was, after Sasuke, his priority. I mean, it is obvious that Naruto loves no one more than Sasuke. It is not a secret to anyone, but Sakura was still with him. He rushed repeatedly to make sure she was okay. He was like that before as well. He knew people got injured, but when Sasuke tried to kill Sakura, he was the first one to rush to save her. How many times did that happen to Hinata?

Where was Hinata? She was never in his thoughts in this manner. Where was she when Naruto was rushing to (let's ignore Sasuke for now) Sakura's side? Rotting in a cocoon ... and Naruto didn't give the damnest thought or two lazy f*ucks about her. The manga is filled to the brim with Naruto's "self-communings" that never have had any place for Hinata in this regard. Are these the makings of SS and NH? No, they are laughable.

The pairings JUST happened. That was poor writing, and fan-pandering. Nothing more. All that was left for Sakura was to move on. Her thought and final realization that “Sasuke just doesn't care” was a KEY factor in her last step. But she ... magically, never took the obvious one for which the plot had been building to since the onset of part II. MY jaw literally dropped, when Hinata was the FIRST person to be shown when IT was lifted. I predicted it weeks ago, that if Kishimoto took the cheap, fan-pandering route, then Hinata WILL be shown to be the first person waking up, and I had hit the nail on the head.

Long story short, within the confines of what Kishimoto could accomplish with romance, NS was nicely penned. That was the de facto pairing. There was no room for SS and NH. Never. Not even a tiny one. The only reason it happened was because Kishimoto must have been pressured to create them to promote sales. Otherwise, I hardly doubt the guy wrote ALL that just to change his mind the last second.

Which is why I find pairing threads hilarious. NH fans yelling at SS that the latter was abusive, when Naruto didn’t give a shit about her suicide. He practically brushed it away as unimportant. And SS? They were never in a relationship. So what kind of abuse does this forum bring out. That choking incident? Anyone should have mowed her down, as she was there to kill him. Both pairing supporters are ridiculous.
 
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Sakura failed two times in one day to kill Sasuke. Sakura had to be saved two times that day from Sasuke by Kakashi and Naruto and this lead to Sasuke marring Sakura with no tender moments in- between. Speck about weird attraction.
 
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