Which of these S/T techniques has the most utility?!

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Kamui for me... it's literally the most versatile tech...
 

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Simply put, which is best?

There really isn't a best.

Kamui is probably the most haxxed, it is extremely hard to deal with.

FTG has the downfall of having to tag something before teleporting, but it has the advantage over Kamui in that it is instantaneous.

Amenotejikara, like FTG, is instantenous, however unlike FTG and Kamui, it doesn't have the ability to travel X amount of distance. However, if what people say are true, Sasuke's range with it has increased much more than just 10M like it was when he had just awakened it against Madara. Also you can teleport an enemy wherever you want.

In terms of combat:
1) Amenotejikara: You don't have to go up and tag the opponent like FTG, and it isn't a one trick pony like Kamui. Also the Ameno-Swap is extremely haxxed
2) Kamui: How many times have you heard, "Kamui gg?" If the opponent lacks the speed needed to counter Kamui it is over. Has the disadvantage of being able to be sensed by a sensor.
3) FTG: Must tag before you can teleport. Also if you don't have the attack speed to actually finish your opponent, then FTG isn't to great.
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Traveling:
1) Kamui: You can travel anywhere
2) FTG: Unlimited range as long as it you have it tagged
3) Amenotejikara: Limited range
 
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There really isn't a best.

Kamui is probably the most haxxed, it is extremely hard to deal with.

FTG has the downfall of having to tag something before teleporting, but it has the advantage over Kamui in that it is instantaneous.

Amenotejikara, like FTG, is instantenous, however unlike FTG and Kamui, it doesn't have the ability to travel X amount of distance. However, if what people say are true, Sasuke's range with it has increased much more than just 10M like it was when he had just awakened it against Madara. Also you can teleport an enemy wherever you want.

In terms of combat:
1) Amenotejikara: You don't have to go up and tag the opponent like FTG, and it isn't a one trick pony like Kamui. Also the Ameno-Swap is extremely haxxed
2) Kamui: How many times have you heard, "Kamui gg?" If the opponent lacks the speed needed to counter Kamui it is over. Has the disadvantage of being able to be sensed by a sensor.
3) FTG: Must tag before you can teleport. Also if you don't have the attack speed to actually finish your opponent, then FTG isn't to great.
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Traveling:
1) Kamui: You can travel anywhere
2) FTG: Unlimited range as long as it you have it tagged
3) Amenotejikara: Limited range

I say Kamui snipe > Ameno-swap all day.

Kamui just requires the user to look at his opponent, and TA-DA, he's dead. Sasuke has to follow-up with an attack after using Ameno, or he has to take a few precious seconds to think of a way to have his opponent charge him, and then Ameno-swap with a deadly object. Like when he swapped places with his katana so Madara would run into it.

And Kamui-snipe might as well be considered instantaneuous, being that Kakashi got to the point where he could snipe small-to-medium sized objects in a fraction of a second. Also, how could you call Kamui, the most versatile S/T of the three, a "one trick pony"? lol wut
 

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I say Kamui snipe > Ameno-swap all day.

Kamui just requires the user to look at his opponent, and TA-DA, he's dead. Sasuke has to follow-up with an attack after using Ameno, or he has to take a few precious seconds to think of a way to have his opponent charge him, and then Ameno-swap with a deadly object. Like when he swapped places with his katana so Madara would run into it.

And Kamui-snipe might as well be considered instantaneuous, being that Kakashi got to the point where he could snipe small-to-medium sized objects in a fraction of a second. Also, how could you call Kamui, the most versatile S/T of the three, a "one trick pony"? lol wut

In terms of actual combat, Kamui only has one way of actually winning, which is "Kamui snipe." Hence why I called it a one trick pony.

Combat wise, Amenotejikara is way more versatile compared to Kamui. If you have the reflexes to avoid Kamui, you can. Also if you are a sensor, then you can feel the buildup in the eye and act accordingly. There are more ways to counter Kamui than Ameno. There is literally no way to counter Ameno Swap, and there has only been one person who has shown reactions fast enough to evade Amenotejikara and that is Kaguya.
 

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Ameno, it's the only one that works against JJ Madara and the user can return to earth from Kaguya's dimensions
 

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Ameno, it's the only one that works against JJ Madara and the user can return to earth from Kaguya's dimensions

Yet failed many times against Kaguya and even Momoshiki.

Where Kamui saved Real Naruto from Ash Bone to make way for sealing event. Even get praised by Hagoromo the man that bless Sasuke with that S/T tech.



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That if we talk about fighting situation only in here but other thing like travelling, hiding, escaping etc etc Kamui can do much more thhing than Amenotejikara
 
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In terms of actual combat, Kamui only has one way of actually winning, which is "Kamui snipe." Hence why I called it a one trick pony.

Combat wise, Amenotejikara is way more versatile compared to Kamui. If you have the reflexes to avoid Kamui, you can. Also if you are a sensor, then you can feel the buildup in the eye and act accordingly. There are more ways to counter Kamui than Ameno. There is literally no way to counter Ameno Swap, and there has only been one person who has shown reactions fast enough to evade Amenotejikara and that is Kaguya.
Kamui snipe isn't Kamui's only combative use.
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Though both Kamui and Ameno become fairly easy to predict and counter if they fail to defeat the opponent on their first use and lose the element of surprise. Like how Momoshiki countered Ameno by smacking Sasuke away because he had already seen him use it against Kinshiki and knew to expect it.
Ameno, it's the only one that works against JJ Madara and the user can return to earth from Kaguya's dimensions

Kamui wasn't used against Madara. And Sasuke actually would've been screwed if not for Obito (with the help of Sakura) using Kamui to open up that portal.
 

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Yet failed many time against Kaguya and even Momoshiki.

Where Kamui saved Real Naruto from Ash Bone to make way for sealing event. Even get praised by Hagoromo the man that bless Sasuke with that S/T tech.



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Kamui was useful but without Ameno they wouldn't have been able to place the seal. The Sage was referring to Team 7's teamwork as being a miracle, everyone put in the right amount of effort to stop Kaguya which was a surprise to him.
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That if we talk about fighting situation only in here but other thing like travelling, hiding, escaping etc etc Kamui can do much more thhing than Amenotejikara

You don't need to hide in other dimensions if you can switch yourself with the opponent's body, all their attacks can be used against them
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With Ameno the user can also travel in other dimensions as well as hide and escape
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Kamui snipe isn't Kamui's only combative use.
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Though both Kamui and Ameno become fairly easy to predict and counter if they fail to defeat the opponent on their first use and lose the element of surprise. Like how Momoshiki countered Ameno by smacking Sasuke away because he had already seen him use it against Kinshiki and knew to expect it.


Kamui wasn't used against Madara. And Sasuke actually would've been screwed if not for Obito (with the help of Sakura) using Kamui to open up that portal.

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-If he have Kamui snipe here, Madara's head will be lost forever. But he can regenerate tho.
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Kamui was useful but without Ameno they wouldn't have been able to place the seal. The Sage was referring to Team 7's teamwork as being a miracle, everyone put in the right amount of effort to stop Kaguya which was a surprise to him.
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You don't need to hide in other dimensions if you can switch yourself with the opponent's body, all their attacks can be used against them
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With Ameno the user can also travel in other dimensions as well as hide and escape
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The last one is not Amenotejikara unless stated in DB. Theory/assumption is irrelevant here.

Again you looking at this in the battle perspective only where I'm looking at more broader perspective
 
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There are nothing called the best, it depends on the user, and not the jutsu. It is true every jutsu has a weakness, and every jutsu has a unique fighting style, but we cannot assume which is the strongest or the most versatile one. If the opponent manages to counter you, it is the user who are not fast enough to strike after the jutsu is performed which is a huge factor here. Let's take for an example:

FTG is instant, and there are no weakness to it because you cannot catch Minato or neither Tobirama after they have performed the jutsu. There is only one thing for sure, and that is when they becomes vulnerable, and that's when you can strike the user back if they're attacks aren't fast enough, like when Minato fought against Ay, he didn't saw Killer Bee's tentacle tails to save Ay and Madara's counter attack.

Kamui is OP for sure, however it has a weakness, and that's when he becomes tangible.

Amenotejikara has its limit, and if you know how the jutsu works, then you can easily predict the user's movements.

Here again, it is about the striking speed, not the jutsu.
 
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Kamui has the most utility
The last one is not Amenotejikara unless stated in DB. Theory/assumption is irrelevant here.

Again you looking at this in the battle perspective only where I'm looking at more broader perspective

why don't mods create specific fanfic section for that guy considering he makes lots of nonesense
 

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Kamui has the most utility

why don't mods create specific fanfic section for that guy considering he makes lots of nonesense

Or better just ban him from creating weird theories. He one of his kind here. Even my previous enemy Loki D was not like him.
 

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Or better just ban him from creating weird theories. He one of his kind here. Even my previous enemy Loki D was not like him.

Oh that guy who repeatedly made Naruto chars against DBZ chars thread and posted Top 50 strongest char with DMS kakashi but no madara,Sasuke,Naruto or Kaguya
 
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