[Theory] Voice of all things

[Anduril]

Well I think people have got it all wrong, the power of voice of all things does not apply to non-living things. Only the voices of living things can be heard with this power. That is why roger needed Oden-sama to decipher the poneglyph and luffy needs robing.

That's it.

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[loj]

Who even said Luffy can hear read Poneglyphs xd

 

[Caliburn]

Your reasoning seems to be contradicting itself. A literal interpretation of the concept "The Voice of all things" means hearing the voices of everything. You added the "living" part, which means that it does not allow you to hear the voices of all things and thus that the description of the concept is wrong. Also Rayleigh mentioned it in response to Robin asking questions about the Skypea poneglyph, however if that was just Oden's doing, what point was there then in mentioning the Voice of all things?

Personally I don't really have much an opinion bout the Voice of all things because we know absolutely nothing about it, but your reasoning seems to be flawed.

 

[Anduril]

Your reasoning seems to be contradicting itself. A literal interpretation of the concept "The Voice of all things" means hearing the voices of everything. You added the "living" part, which means that it does not allow you to hear the voices of all things and thus that the description of the concept is wrong. Also Rayleigh mentioned it in response to Robin asking questions about the Skypea poneglyph, however if that was just Oden's doing, what point was there then in mentioning the Voice of all things?

Personally I don't really have much an opinion bout the Voice of all things because we know absolutely nothing about it, but your reasoning seems to be flawed.

Yes, I guess you are right in the contradictory part. But the only instances so far in which we saw the voice of all things being used was with Sea kings and Zinusha and we cannot really rely on the Translation quality of the subs and manga, unless it is official. It could very well be "Voice of all beings", which could be a branch of the color of observation.

 

[Osmon]

Luffy had the same ability as Gol and the latter could decipher poneglyphs and we know that poneglyphs aren't living beings so I guess it was a weird power that has something to do with the chosen 'D'. It will probably be explained later when Luffy realizes that he can do that shit.

 

[Son Ryuto Uzumaki]

I like the ring "The voice of all Beings

 

[Relostar Devil]

Happy realisation!!!

 

[giostep]

Yes, I guess you are right in the contradictory part. But the only instances so far in which we saw the voice of all things being used was with Sea kings and Zinusha and we cannot really rely on the Translation quality of the subs and manga, unless it is official. It could very well be "Voice of all beings", which could be a branch of the color of observation.

idk about that...
being is a wod usually reserved for "higher intellegence". Spados sword would be a being when transformed under "your" trabslation
also that assumed that about one with COO would have that ability or unlock it.

 

[Anduril]

Luffy had the same ability as Gol and the latter could decipher poneglyphs and we know that poneglyphs aren't living beings so I guess it was a weird power that has something to do with the chosen 'D'. It will probably be explained later when Luffy realizes that he can do that shit.

Rayleigh clearly said "They could not decipher the writings on the poneglyphs". And Unless I am much mistaken, Oden was with Roger when they travelled to skypiea, because it is unlikely that Roger could have been capable of writing a verse in that ancient language.

 

[Osmon]

Rayleigh clearly said "They could not decipher the writings on the poneglyphs". And Unless I am much mistaken, Oden was with Roger when they travelled to skypiea, because it is unlikely that Roger could have been capable of writing a verse in that ancient language.

Wait so Oden is capable of reading and writing them ? I thought his ancestors had that ability only lol

 

[Punk Hazard]

Rayleigh clearly said "They could not decipher the writings on the poneglyphs". And Unless I am much mistaken, Oden was with Roger when they travelled to skypiea, because it is unlikely that Roger could have been capable of writing a verse in that ancient language.

Actually, Ray said they couldn't "read" the Poneglyphs the same way the Ohara scholars could. Therefore, their meaning could be very different from the meaning Robin could get, so he encouraged her to find her own meaning due to having a different method of deciphering the Glyphs.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

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Rogers didn't have anyone decipher it for him, Rayleigh said the voice of all things helped him with that.

 

[Caliburn]

Yes, I guess you are right in the contradictory part. But the only instances so far in which we saw the voice of all things being used was with Sea kings and Zinusha and we cannot really rely on the Translation quality of the subs and manga, unless it is official. It could very well be "Voice of all beings", which could be a branch of the color of observation.

You should always be wary of mistranslations, but you shouldn't pull this out of proportion either. The Voice of all things isn't the smallest of details we're talking about here. If it was an incorrect translation, it would have been found out a long time ago. Taking this argument to the degree you are doing, we can't be sure of any translations.

I do think it's possible it's connected to the CoO. I always imagined it was a higher form of the CoO which only someone with the KD could access. Till know the KD hasn't had any real use yet other than having a symbolic function and KOing commons foot soldiers en mass.

Wait so Oden is capable of reading and writing them ? I thought his ancestors had that ability only lol

Up to Oden's generation it was possible, meaning Oden was the last one. That's why Kaidou went after him and that's why they're now going after his subordinates and son.

 

[Osmon]

You should always be wary of mistranslations, but you shouldn't pull this out of proportion either. The Voice of all things isn't the smallest of details we're talking about here. If it was an incorrect translation, it would have been found out a long time ago. Taking this argument to the degree you are doing, we can't be sure of any translations.

I do think it's possible it's connected to the CoO. I always imagined it was a higher form of the CoO which only someone with the KD could access. Till know the KD hasn't had any real use yet other than having a symbolic function and KOing commons foot soldiers en mass.



Up to Oden's generation it was possible, meaning Oden was the last one. That's why Kaidou went after him and that's why they're now going after his subordinates and son.

Maybe somehow Oden is from Ohara or learnt to read Poneglyphs from Ohara's studs way before the Buster call ?

 

[loj]

Well it was Kozuki family who passed down the knowledge how to read poneglyphs in the first place,the people from Ohara were just studying it.

So Oden was the last one in his generation where it's now Robin if I got this right.

 

[Caliburn]

Maybe somehow Oden is from Ohara or learnt to read Poneglyphs from Ohara's studs way before the Buster call ?

That doesn't even make sense. The manga is rather clear on this: the Kouzuki clan were the ones who forged the poneglyphs and passed down the knowledge about the creation of it from generation to generation and that for 800 years. What they don't seem to know is the specific contents of all the poneglyphs, which is what the scholars of Ohara were trying to uncover.

The scholars on Ohara were some of the most brilliant minds in the world, they were able to decipher the language written on the poneglyphs. If there was already any connection between Oden and Ohara, then it would have been that Oden taught them how to read the stones, not the other way around.