Kisame vs Danzo and Edo Hiruzen

[Beans2]

Can Kisame take on both of these guys at once?

Location: Bee vs Kisame
Intel: Full
Distance: 40m
Restrictions: KA and Edo regen

 

[Curse Mark]

I doubt it.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Full intel means Kisame starts with WD. Would like to hear how Danzo and Hiruzen get themselves out of that.

 

[Beans2]

Full intel means Kisame starts with WD. Would like to hear how Danzo and Hiruzen get themselves out of that.

I wonder, since Edo Hiruzen's chakra just replenishes itself, and Kisame can keep absorbing it...infinite chakra for Kisame and Samehada?

 

[NarutoX28]

Edo Hiruzen's Ninjutsu was impressive and holds the elemental advantage through Doton and Hiruzen has access to multiple clones which can enhances his fire-power considerably. With Danzo, he could easily enhance his Suiton with Futon which can aid in combating Kisame's Suiton. Of course, Kisame holds the advantage here due to distance, so he can easily envelope the duo with WD while he attempts to chase down either of the two and absorb their chakra.

However, what's funny is that with Izanagi, Danzo can easily warp out of the WD, summon Baku and begin absorbing the entirety of Kisame's Waterdome and through there, I find it difficult for Kisame to win. Having ET and Izanagi grants the duo immunity and since WD is lifted, Hiruzen and Danzo can apply the pressure through clones and blindside attacks.

I would say the duo wins honestly.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

I wonder, since Edo Hiruzen's chakra just replenishes itself, and Kisame can keep absorbing it...infinite chakra for Kisame and Samehada?

Possibly, don't think he really needs it though.

However, what's funny is that with Izanagi, Danzo can easily warp out of the WD

Danzo has never shown that kind of range with Izanagi.

 

[NarutoX28]

I think he can hypothetically do it. Your destiny was hyped up to be decided just through Izanagi and it has done that to the point where you can rewrite your death as if it never happened. I think it's entirely possible.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

I think he can hypothetically do it. Your destiny was hyped up to be decided just through Izanagi and it has done that to the point where you can rewrite your death as if it never happened. I think it's entirely possible.

Right. That doesn't mean he can use it in order to spawn literally anywhere. Else he would of used it to escape, and spawn back in Konoha for example. Danzo implied

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that he had no possible way of escaping if Obito joined the fight, despite the fact that he felt that

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. Most importantly, he stated that

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. If escaping the fight was an option at that point, he would of took it. Tells me his Izanagi spawning range is restricted within the surrounding area.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Lol come on now. Danzo said no such thing

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1.This page clearly implies that Izanagi manipulation is battlefield range.

2. Izanagi is no different then Obito's Izanagi in the first place. The only thing different is Obito is complete. Which has nothing to do with the actual jutsu's function, but its duration.



Danzo solos.

Hiruzen solos.

 

[Oblivionx]

Duo should win... I jus can't see two kages losing to kisame...

 

[Draegod]

Enma cage sheds! What the fuq kind of thread is this? A desperate "Kisame Outlast" thread? Because they definatley counter all his move set bar WD Drowning (weak argument). If no knowledge either could solo.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Enma cage sheds! What the fuq kind of thread is this? A desperate "Kisame Outlast" thread? Because they definatley counter all his move set bar WD Drowning (weak argument). If no knowledge either could solo.

The Kisame hate is so strong that instead of just stating that they can't counter WD, you had to call it a weak argument, due to the fact. Also, feeling the need to change the stipulation of the match in your favor in order to please your bias. Lmaooo, my goodness. What a drawing can do to a person is unreal sometimes. All we need is Toshizo to join the thread, and the whole Kisame Hurt Me Club has assembled.

Enmas Cage shits on what? Lol, bro. Please please please just stop it already!

 

[KidGamer65]

Hiruzen? Soloing Kisame? With Full Intel?

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[Curse Mark]

Right. That doesn't mean he can use it in order to spawn literally anywhere. Else he would of used it to escape, and spawn back in Konoha for example. Danzo implied

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that he had no possible way of escaping if Obito joined the fight, despite the fact that he felt that

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. Most importantly, he stated that

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. If escaping the fight was an option at that point, he would of took it. Tells me his Izanagi spawning range is restricted within the surrounding area.

Uhhh because Shisui's eye wasn't back by that point I thought?

 

[Draegod]

Uhhh because Shisui's eye wasn't back by that point I thought?

He took it completely out of context. Danzo had no plans of "running", he was planning his fight with Tobi since he thought sasuke was going to be dealt with (which he should have been no thanks to plot).

 

[Draegod]

The Kisame hate is so strong that instead of just stating that they can't counter WD, you had to call it a weak argument, due to the fact. Also, feeling the need to change the stipulation of the match in your favor in order to please your bias. Lmaooo, my goodness. What a drawing can do to a person is unreal sometimes. All we need is Toshizo to join the thread, and the whole Kisame Hurt Me Club has assembled.

Enmas Cage shits on what? Lol, bro. Please please please just stop it already!

Bro It's not that serious. Nothing In my post stated any "hate" for Kisame. His fans are the worse on this particular site though since yall think he does everything instantly with every one watching. lmao Baku shits on the dome and Kisame has Zero counters to Baku. Once he is touch Via Izanagi spawn its GG, Enma cage shits on Kisame unless youre saying he's stronger then Diamond. Lmao The WD is countered so hard it isnt even funny, but the fact that it's your only argument makes it that much more funny! lmao

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Hiruzen? Soloing Kisame? With Full Intel?

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Full intel plays both ways brah brah. A full intel Hiruzen will easily focus on jutsus that are effective against Kisame's arsenal.

Kisame's Suiton are all countered with Doton. He can stop Kisame from spreading his lake no diff with Kohona's ninjutsus. One with Doton: Doryūkatsu, by shifting the level of the floor, containing the majority of his water. Doton: Otoshibuta easily interferes with Kisame's process too by dropping down on him or sealing him up after Doryūkatsu. Heck, even Raiton: Shichū Shibari can set up Kisame by those lightening pillars.

Even if caught in WD, Hiruzen easily flanks him with multiple Shadow Clones. Kisame either gets pushed by Enma extension pole, or extension pole propels a Hiruzen to escape, or force Kisame to follow a clone, moving him away from the Water.

 

[super yang]

edo hiruzen absolutely solos

danzo w/out KA absolutely solos

 

[KidGamer65]

Full intel plays both ways brah brah. A full intel Hiruzen will easily focus on jutsus that are effective against Kisame's arsenal.

Kisame's Suiton are all countered with Doton. He can stop Kisame from spreading his lake no diff with Kohona's ninjutsus. One with Doton: Doryūkatsu, by shifting the level of the floor, containing the majority of his water. Doton: Otoshibuta easily interferes with Kisame's process too by dropping down on him or sealing him up after Doryūkatsu. Heck, even Raiton: Shichū Shibari can set up Kisame by those lightening pillars.

Even if caught in WD, Hiruzen easily flanks him with multiple Shadow Clones. Kisame either gets pushed by Enma extension pole, or extension pole propels a Hiruzen to escape, or force Kisame to follow a clone, moving him away from the Water.

Kisame's most dangerous Suiton are things that Doton can't block, and that'd be GSB, Bakusui Shoha and Dai Bakusui Shoha. (Water Dome) Splitting the earth doesn't help him because he can't (Or rather you've yet to prove that he can) create a chasm large enough to contain the water produced from the regular Bakusui Shoha so we can forget about that ever countering Water Dome.

The Dropping Lid is a pretty weak argument. Not only can Kisame just burrow out using Subterranean Voyage, him releasing the water would push the lid up and away from him so how does this even help? Lightning pillars are useless for obvious reasons. Not only will he never actually catch Kisame in the majority of the things you mentioned due to the fact that he can just evade, or Samehada absorbs the lightning.

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If caught in WD Hiruzen makes Shadow Clones and then Kisamehada rapes them and him. Flank? Do you realize how terrible a strategy it is to try and flank Kisame while they are in the dome and he's in his fused form? Hiruzen can't even make a lot of Shadow Clones so where is "Multiple" coming from? Enma is dodged, Hiruzen's clones are picked off one by one. Using Enma to push himself out of the dome is a terrible plan simply because he'd have to extend Enma to the bottom of the dome and then wait till it pushes him out. Kisame isn't going to sit there twiddling his thumbs while this happens. Either he goes after Hiruzen himself or he just wipes him out with GSB.

 

[Icelerate]

The Kisame hate is so strong that instead of just stating that they can't counter WD, you had to call it a weak argument, due to the fact. Also, feeling the need to change the stipulation of the match in your favor in order to please your bias. Lmaooo, my goodness. What a drawing can do to a person is unreal sometimes. All we need is Toshizo to join the thread, and the whole Kisame Hurt Me Club has assembled.

What about Super Yang?