Naruto vs Sasuke

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This ^ is actually the best answer here.

The deciding factor here is speed. Sasuke's speed is not chakra enhanced, whereas Naruto's is. ie without chakra, Sasuke would end the battle in like 0.005 seconds.

You are wrong. Sasuke uses chakra to enhance his speed (body flicker jutsu) and the sharingan and he still can't blitz Naruto. Naruto has proven he is fast without chakra enhancement.

Naruto proved he was faster than Kakashi when he rescued Sakura -

A rin/sharingan Sasuke couldn't blitz base Naruto -

The difference between their speed is Sasuke uses his speed more than Naruto.
 

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You are wrong. Sasuke uses chakra to enhance his speed (body flicker jutsu) and the sharingan and he still can't blitz Naruto. Naruto has proven he is fast without chakra enhancement.

Naruto proved he was faster than Kakashi when he rescued Sakura -

A rin/sharingan Sasuke couldn't blitz base Naruto -

The difference between their speed is Sasuke uses his speed more than Naruto.

Seriously :|

U call Sasuke's speed Shuushin, but call Naruto saving Sakura pure footspeed? Anytime someone just appears out of nowhere like that it's usually Shuushin.

Also, at VOTE2 no one was trying to blitz -__-. seriously who ever heard of a blitz guard
 
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Naruto wins. There base skills are equal, but Naruto has more stamina and strength -

So many keep saying that Naruto needs to us shadow clones, yet Sasuke wasn't able to defeat Naruto in a taijutsu during the VOTE2. That alone proves them wrong. Naruto was in worse condition than Sasuke.

Yes, Sasuke is experienced in Shurikeninjutsu, Kenjutsu, and Taijutsu, but when he displayed skills in those areas he was using his sharingan most of the time.

Sasuke battle against Oro flunkies isn't as impressive as people believe it to be. 1 - Oro flunkies are weak. Shikamaru from part 1 had approximately 10 of them beat alone. 2 - We didn't see the battle so nobody knows what happen. We don't know is Sasuke fought them using only taijutsu and if he was using multiple ninjutsu. We just know Sasuke didn't kill them.

Naruto battle against Itachi was an excellent display of his skills in taijutsu - - Naruto was attacking and blocking simultaneously. He was attacking high and low. His taijutsu style was very similar to Itachi. Some don't give him the credit he deserved during that battle because he was in chakra mode. They try to claim that was the result of his chakra mode. That's stupid because his chakra mode doesn't increase his skills in taijutsu. It does make his stronger and faster, but he wasn't using his enhanced strength and speed.
@bold :lol

aren't you the Guy who claimed Once base naruto can break Sasuke's 3T genjutsu becoz he struggled against Itachi's :lol
also the last bolded part looks pretty nostalgic to me

i remember you trying the same argument to KG once :lol
Naruto proved he was faster than Kakashi when he rescued Sakura -
Completely ignores Kakashi is stumbling after using 2 kamui
A rin/sharingan Sasuke couldn't blitz base Naruto -
So according this guy Rin/sharingan increases your speed
How about you read the manga becoz they both are on Hashirama's Statue and Sasuke crossed the distance btn Madara's statue to hashirama's statue
 

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@bold yes we are
Well maybe you are, I sure wasn't.

@red obviously sasuke dwarfs naruto's feat in this
Well I don't have anything to prove this wrong other than the fact that in Boruto the movie, Naruto used Sasuke's sword as proficiently as Sasuke.

@green :lol just proved your own point
Lol I asked for panels to prove me wrong, wtf are you saying....:Omg:

How is it assumption???
Kenjutsu is literally a trademark technique for Sasuke it's been that way since he was introduced in part 2 to the end and even beyond the manga into the new generation. I don't see how your logic brings up the claim saying there's no proof. You have yet to add any special feats Naruto has with a kunai, while I provided a feat of Sasuke's with ken and tai, let's not forget the time the Samurai acknowledged Sasuke's kenjutsu, the samurai whom are known as the best kenjutsu users
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I'll wait for you to post anything of how Naruto's use of kunai is more proficient than Sasuke's use of kenjutsu. By your logic we can say any of K11 that used kunai in fights are on par with Sasuke's kenjutsu
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First of all let me clear what I am comparing, its whether Naruto's kunai can take on Sasuke's kenjutsu and I am definitely not comparing Sasuke's feats. So please don't bring panels showing Sasuke beating some fodder ninjas or samurais. Still if we're considering feats then please add hashi powered Sasuke being stabbed by base Madara to the list.
Second point is, sure a katana has better reach and power than a kunai but kunai can be used with more speed and agility on top of that ninja's carry multiple kunai's so it can be thrown as well for ranged attacks or the user can wield two kunais. So it all depends on who is using what and how proficient they're with that.
Sure Sasuke is good with kenjutsu and Naruto has not been shown much fighting with a kunai. That doesn't prove that he's not good with them or can't fight against a good kenjutsu user, its all just speculation as they were never shown fighting against each other with katana and kunais.
With that said, I wonder why Sasuke never brought his katana into VOTE 2 battle despite having an obvious advantage as per the fanboys, maybe he thought that his kenjutsu won't be of much help against Naruto.
The thing is fanboyism some times clouds some people's judgement and by that I don't mean you. They make statements as if they themselves are the writers of the manga and know things for sure and that's just dumb and stupid. These are just assumptions and the could go either way.
 

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Well maybe you are, I sure wasn't.
Yes everyone is

Well I don't have anything to prove this wrong other than the fact that in Boruto the movie, Naruto used Sasuke's sword as proficiently as Sasuke.
We are talking about Adult version in Boruto movie then Base Sasuke eats Base naruto and farts him out without any problem :lol
@bold i can realise how dumb you are

Lol I asked for panels to prove me wrong, wtf are you saying....:Omg:
Just read your post and how crappy it sounds
i did provide scans on my next post

First of all let me clear what I am comparing, its whether Naruto's kunai can take on Sasuke's kenjutsu and I am definitely not comparing Sasuke's feats. So please don't bring panels showing Sasuke beating some fodder ninjas or samurais.

:lol @ bold :lmao:
Still if we're considering feats then please add hashi powered Sasuke being stabbed by base Madara to the list.
So Rinnegan Madara with Hashirama's Sage Mode using Limbo is base
No wonder this guy is a troll
Second point is, sure a katana has better reach and power than a kunai but kunai can be used with more speed and agility on top of that ninja's carry multiple kunai's so it can be thrown as well for ranged attacks or the user can wield two kunais.So it all depends on who is using what and how proficient they're with that.
Sasuke has more feats than Kunai than Naruto kid
Unless you can prove otherwise becoz i can provide scans of Sasuke using it proficiently you can't becoz you are piulling fanfics out of your ass
Sure Sasuke is good with kenjutsu and Naruto has not been shown much fighting with a kunai. That doesn't prove that he's not good with them or can't fight against a good kenjutsu user, its all just speculation as they were never shown fighting against each other with katana and kunais.
My sides :lol and this guy calls others troll
Sakura can fight Sasuke with Kunai now
Shikamaru can too
maybe Hinata too
Tenten can defeat defeat Sasuke with a kunai then :lol
With that said, I wonder why Sasuke never brought his katana into VOTE 2 battle despite having an obvious advantage as per the fanboys, maybe he thought that his kenjutsu won't be of much help against Naruto.
Are you dumb enough to not realise while reading the manga that he had lost his sword and sheath
The thing is fanboyism some times clouds some people's judgement and by that I don't mean you. They make statements as if they themselves are the writers of the manga and know things for sure and that's just dumb and stupid. These are just assumptions and the could go either way.
Just read your dumb fanfics which only proves you don't read the manga and pull fanfics out of ass
 
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@bold yes we are
@red obviously sasuke dwarfs naruto's feat in this
@green :lol just proved your own point

Yes everyone is


We are talking about Adult version in Boruto movie then Base Sasuke eats Base naruto and farts him out without any problem :lol
@bold i can realise how dumb you are


Just read your post and how crappy it sounds
i did provide scans on my next post


:lol @ bold :lmao:
So Rinnegan Madara with Hashirama's Sage Mode using Limbo is base
No wonder this guy is a troll

Sasuke has more feats than Kunai than Naruto kid
Unless you can prove otherwise becoz i can provide scans of Sasuke using it proficiently yiou can't becoz you are piulling fanfics out of your ass

My sides :lol and this guy calls others troll
Sakura can fight Sasuke with Kunai now
Shikamaru can too
maybe Hinata too
Tenten can defeat defeat Sasuke with a kunai then :lol

Are you dumb enough to not realise while reading the manga that he had lost his sword and sheath

Just read your dumb fanfics which only proves you don't read the manga and pull fanfics out of ass

And this is what we call a butthurt fanboy....reason and logic is beyond their comprehension..:lmao:
 

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And this is what we call a butthurt fanboy....reason and logic is beyond their comprehension..:lmao:

Yeah kid Base Madara according to You that has Rinnegan and senjutsu and can use Limbo and Susanoo.How about you read the manga again

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Gtfo fanboy. I am not wasting my time with you anymore.
 

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Gtfo fanboy. I am not wasting my time with you anymore.

Yeah troll why Sasuke nvr used the sword he nvr had in battle according to you :sdo: epitome of logic eh

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sasukes proficient use of weaponry gives him the win. he has his katana for kenjutsu, shuriken jutsu(including the threaded shuriken), once he starts employing use of these, naruto dies.

if its just taijutsu, then they tie as shown in canon.
 

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Well maybe you are, I sure wasn't.


Well I don't have anything to prove this wrong other than the fact that in Boruto the movie, Naruto used Sasuke's sword as proficiently as Sasuke.


Lol I asked for panels to prove me wrong, wtf are you saying....:Omg:



First of all let me clear what I am comparing, its whether Naruto's kunai can take on Sasuke's kenjutsu and I am definitely not comparing Sasuke's feats. So please don't bring panels showing Sasuke beating some fodder ninjas or samurais. Still if we're considering feats then please add hashi powered Sasuke being stabbed by base Madara to the list.
Second point is, sure a katana has better reach and power than a kunai but kunai can be used with more speed and agility on top of that ninja's carry multiple kunai's so it can be thrown as well for ranged attacks or the user can wield two kunais. So it all depends on who is using what and how proficient they're with that.
Sure Sasuke is good with kenjutsu and Naruto has not been shown much fighting with a kunai. That doesn't prove that he's not good with them or can't fight against a good kenjutsu user, its all just speculation as they were never shown fighting against each other with katana and kunais.
With that said, I wonder why Sasuke never brought his katana into VOTE 2 battle despite having an obvious advantage as per the fanboys, maybe he thought that his kenjutsu won't be of much help against Naruto.
The thing is fanboyism some times clouds some people's judgement and by that I don't mean you. They make statements as if they themselves are the writers of the manga and know things for sure and that's just dumb and stupid. These are just assumptions and the could go either way.

You've wasted my time quoting me without bringing any feats showing Naruto being proficient with a kunai in any way via scans.
I'm not going to bother to read whatever the hell you posted just take this L and neg rep
 

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Seriously :|

U call Sasuke's speed Shuushin, but call Naruto saving Sakura pure footspeed? Anytime someone just appears out of nowhere like that it's usually Shuushin.

Also, at VOTE2 no one was trying to blitz
-__-. seriously who ever heard of a blitz guard

..... I hope you're kidding
 

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..... I hope you're kidding

To blitz would mean to attack by overwhelming with speed in a frontal attack

The person I quoted stated that this was supposedly a failed blitz attempt by Sasuke
 

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To blitz would mean to attack by overwhelming with speed in a frontal attack

The person I quoted stated that this was supposedly a failed blitz attempt by Sasuke

Edit: misread, my bad
 
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Naruto always went easy on Sasuke, because he never wanted to kill him. Sasuke gave it his all and still failed.
 

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@bold :lol

aren't you the Guy who claimed Once base naruto can break Sasuke's 3T genjutsu becoz he struggled against Itachi's :lol
also the last bolded part looks pretty nostalgic to me

i remember you trying the same argument to KG once :lol
Completely ignores Kakashi is stumbling after using 2 kamui

So according this guy Rin/sharingan increases your speed
How about you read the manga becoz they both are on Hashirama's Statue and Sasuke crossed the distance btn Madara's statue to hashirama's statue

Yeah, I am the same person and just like then I am supporting my claim with facts. I still don't care if people like my post, me...whatever. I noticed you didn't bother to address my post where I talk about Naruto's taijutsu skills.

I know Kakashi stumbled for a second, but I also noticed that Naruto was coming from the same direction that Kakashi was coming from too. When Kakashi stumbled and after he recovered his footing we still don't see Naruto anywhere near Kakashi or Sasuke. That means Kakashi was still closer to them than Naruto was so Naruto traveled a farther distance than Kakashi in less time to save Sakura.

Naruto's base speed has been increasing for a while. When Kakashi fought Pain he was hit by his chakra rod, yet Pain couldn't do the same to an exhausted base Naruto.

I never said Rin/sharingan increases speed. I know it doesn't increase physical speed. I said rin/sharingan Sasuke couldn't blitz base Naruto - - and that hasn't changed. People are claiming Sasuke can blitz Naruto. If Sasuke with chakra and rin/sharingan can't blitz base Naruto than Sasuke without chakra won't be able to. It doesn't matter what statue they landed on because Sasuke couldn't blitz him. Beside Naruto was holding back most of the fight so we can't confirm if Naruto was using his full speed when they first attack each.

Based on the facts:
- rin/sharingan Sasuke reached the 1st hokage statue before Naruto left it and he still couldn't blitz base Naruto
- Naruto was holding back most of the battle, he would wait until Sasuke attacked first and then used just enough power to counter Sasuke's attack
supports Naruto was holding back and not using his full speed when they first attack each other or Sasuke used his S/T to reach to statue.
 
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Yeah, I am the same person and just like then I am supporting my claim with facts. I still don't care if people like my post, me...whatever. I noticed you didn't bother to address my post where I talk about Naruto's taijutsu skills.
You are a idiot who does not know what KCM is.

Don't need to Kidgamer aready schooled you on the garbage but you are shameless enough to spew same garbage over and over


I know Kakashi stumbled for a second, but I also noticed that Naruto was coming from the same direction that Kakashi was coming from too. When Kakashi stumbled and after he recovered his footing we still don't see Naruto anywhere near Kakashi or Sasuke. That means Kakashi was still closer to them than Naruto was so Naruto traveled a farther distance than Kakashi in less time to save Sakura.
Naruto's base speed has been increasing for a while. When Kakashi fought Pain he was hit by his chakra rod, yet Pain couldn't do the same to an exhausted base Naruto.
This troll see's kakashi stumbling on previous page ignores it to sugarcoat his point
Completely ignores naruto could have used shunshin too
I never said Rin/sharingan increases speed. I know it doesn't increase physical speed. I said rin/sharingan Sasuke couldn't blitz base Naruto - - and that hasn't changed.
refer to Animus's post i won't spoon feed your shitty claims
People are claiming Sasuke can blitz Naruto. If Sasuke with chakra and rin/sharingan can't blitz base Naruto than Sasuke without chakra won't be able to.
and you are claiming is even more horsecrap than they are
funnier part you don't even know what a blitz is
It doesn't matter what statue they landed on because Sasuke couldn't blitz him. Beside Naruto was holding back most of the fight so we can't confirm if Naruto was using his full speed when they first attack each.
Absolutely you will pull horsecrap out of your ass
Based on the facts:
U are a grade A troll
- rin/sharingan Sasuke reached the 1st hokage statue before Naruto left it and he still couldn't blitz base Naruto

Refer to Animus's posts
- Naruto was holding back most of the battle, he would wait until Sasuke attacked first and then used just enough power to counter Sasuke's attack
This is something you poulled right out of your ass
supports Naruto was holding back and not using his full speed when they first attack each other or Sasuke used his S/T to reach to statue.
more horsecrap.learn to read
 
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You are a idiot who does not know what KCM is.

Don't need to Kidgamer aready schooled you on the garbage but you are shameless enough to spew same garbage over and over




This troll see's kakashi stumbling on previous page ignores it to sugarcoat his point
Completely ignores naruto could have used shunshin too

refer to Animus's post i won't spoon feed your shitty claims
and you are claiming is even more horsecrap than they are
funnier part you don't even know what a blitz is

Absolutely you will pull horsecrap out of your ass

U are a grade A troll


Refer to Animus's posts

This is something you poulled right out of your ass

more horsecrap.learn to read

He didn't school anyone. He resulted to insults just like you. That is weak and pathetic. That's why I stop responding to his post. It's a waste of time to response to people like him that gets mad easily and acts like a kid. People need to stop wearing their emotions on their sleeves. I'm going to tell you the same thing I told him. Those insults means nothing to me, but they do prove you can't counter my post and that why you, like him, resulted to insults.

I know what KCM is and it doesn't' increase ones skills in taijutsu. Key word is skills. KCM increases his speed and strength. Being strong and fast doesn't make you a skilled taijutsu user. Besides, Naruto wasn't even his KCM speed or strength.

Naruto's excellent display of skills in taijutsu was because of his fighting style and movement. Naruto was attacking and blocking simultaneously. He performing high and low attacks simultaneously - - That is why he is skilled taijutsu user. Itachi coudn't defeat him in taijutsu and all Naruto wanted to do was talk. If you paid attention you would realized Naruto has been working on that taijutsu style throughout the manga. That was long before he learned Frog Fu.

When Naruto clashed with Chiyo he used to shadow clone so he could attack and block simultaneously -

When Naruto was training with Yamato he used a shadow clone so he could perform high and low attacks simultaneously -

By the time he fought Itachi Naruto's skills had grown to the point he can perform those attacks and movements himself without the need of a clone.

I didn't ignore Kakashi stumbling. I broke down the scenes and talked about it. I'm willing to look at the entire scene, not just the parts of the scene.

If anybody here is trolling it's you. You are the one using insults which are completely irrelevant.

Once again, people claim all the time that Sasuke can blitz base Naruto. Yet, Sasuke with rin/sharingan couldn't blitz base Naruto. That was when Sasuke was trying to kill Naruto.

My claims aren't BS, they are supported by the manga. Naruto was holding back most of their battle so it's not hard to believe Naruto was holding back at the beginning of their battle. I just trying explained to you why Sasuke couldn't blitz Naruto. IE: When Sasuke created his chidori susanoo Naruto countered with a beast ball. Naruto could have made a more powerfull beast ball.
 
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