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TSB blocked issoku, so why do people claim guy broke it with a punch, it only broke because madara was hit and the TSB was weakened due to madara taking a heavy hit (now I respect guy more) and night moth bypasses any defence because it bends space, TSB is the best defence so far coz it is also super fast and can change shape at the users will, disintegrate upon physical contact
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No proof of that at all in a zoomed out panel of an explosion and later they are still there...not shown reforming or anything so evidence points to..=D
also your post suggested that arrows>Tsb...but the Tsb was still there...where the arrows at though
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Ok I worded my claim wrong, I meant Enton arrow = TSB. Sasuke has Sage chakra which is also Senjutsu so his Susanoo attacks would naturally cancel out Naruto's TSB.No proof of that at all in a zoomed out panel of an explosion and later they are still there...not shown reforming or anything so evidence points to..=D
also your post suggested that arrows>Tsb...but the Tsb was still there...where the arrows at though
Imo Enton and TSB are equal because both of them are immune to all elements and one erases chakra while the other burns it. The Amaterasu Sasuke used against Obito doesn't count because he didn't have Sage chakra at the time
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lackluster because it took 2 characters in KSM using a huge, shared Rasengan? Talk about selective reading. If took something with that amount of force to just to make it creak, then yes, it could very easily be considered an ultimate defense. I can only surmise that the downplay means you can't be bothered to care enough to remember Yang Kurama mentioning how tough it was to get through it.
The problem with ppl's logic about TSB's vulnerability as a shield is that even though it's weakness is senjutsu, it doesn't matter if it isn't added to an atk that can apply the proper amount of force to absolutely destroy it. Senjutsu doesn't automatically make a TSB weak by itself any more than it makes a JJ weak.
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All of this is completely irrelevant. Who even cares what Kurama said when feats speak for themselves. Do you even know what "ultimate" means? Madara's PS took a much stronger attack and got out without a scratch. Later, Madara's PS was busted, and then there are the Rikudou enhanced avatars which are obviously more durable, and still got destroyed. Yet here you're trying to hype up a defense that was cracked by something leagues below what it took to destroy other defenses, so how the hell are TSB the "ultimate defense"?
Where did you get this fanfic from? Force or not, if the attack is strong enough to crack or shatter it, it will do so.WalksInShadows said:
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Kurama made that statement directly after what happened, so it's hardly irrelevant. The only thing you are correct about here is that the feats do speak for themselves, because it took an incredible amount of senjutsu and bijuu chakra to make that TSB give in the slightest. But apparently, all of that is irrelevant to you.
i guess you also found it irrelevant to read the part where i said they "can be considered an ultimate defense". Meaning, an argument can be made for it. I never stated it as an absolute fact that it was, genius.
the subject was about applying senjutsu to ninjutsu. Are you daft or something? Was there taijutsu involved in what Naruto and Minato did against Obito in that situation? No. Take your cliche retorts back to the kiddy table and leave it out of a discussion involving adults.
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Show me this "incredible amount" of Senjutsu, pal, because that Rasengan was only powered by some of Naruto's Senjutsu since Minato didn't have BSM. Stop making up stuff, seriously. And lol, Bijuu chakra? At this point you're just listing things for the sake of having something to say and hype up that Rasengan, because the TSB were also shattered by a non-Bijuu chakra attack, were shattered by a single Senjutsu BD and a V3 Arrow, and got a hole taken out from them with Kamui.
Best ultimate defense ever, I'd say... on April 1st.
How the fuсk can it be considered the ultimate defense when better defenses have failed and thus they can't be called ultimate, much less a weaker defense like TSB? You mean it "can be considered" if you really squint your eyes because you'd want it to be? For fuсk's sake.WalksInShadows said:
What subject? What does any of this have to do with your fanfic claim that an attack has to have force behind it, or else it won't do anything to the TSB? Absolutely no refute to the fact that if an attack is strong enough on its own it will break the shield with or without force behind it.WalksInShadows said:
And yeah, your maturity level really is showing. Looking at some of your post it's clear as day you're horribly biased towards anything Naruto related, so I'm just gonna roll my eyes and end it off here. You keep glorifying your TSB.
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i can admit that i had a brain fart on that KSM part, but seeing as though both Naruto and Minato clearly had the Kurama avys out, they were using bijuu chakra. And speaking of saying something to just to say something, you're a pot calling the kettle black here, because you're bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with that moment just to say something yourself.
do you need to be reminded that i never said i stated it to be an absolute fact or do you find that too irrelevant to read. I don't see how it could be that hard, considering it was only a handful of words that anybody who understands English could see and interpret correctly. You're just rambling, and the worst part is that you're rambling about a statement you couldn't even be bothered to read correctly.
yeah, because me having a point of view on a situation means i'm immature. I'm not the one who can't construct 2 or 3 sentences without feeling the urge to swear at some point just to somehow make my argument more valid and i don't need to cry about someone else's alleged bias to make myself feel better either.