SM Jiraiya > SM Kabuto?

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1. Fukusaku summons stick

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2. Grips the stick with his long extendable tongue

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3. Beats the nature energy out of Kabuto

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4. Kabuto is now out of Sage mode. And we all know SM Jiraiya creams Base Kabuto

Edit: And Dark swamp solos Manda 2.

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Can evade Susano'o Arrow yet can't evade Pa's Tongue?

SM Kabuto should takes this under most conditions against Jiraiya.
 

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It's not that easy bruh. Manda v2 is faster, stronger, and smarter, it won't fall into the swamp. Susanoo will because it's a large heavy construct but manda is fast and extremely powerful.

 

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Sage mode increases it's size and power.

not sage mode.
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But you brought up another point. SM Kabuto is a perfect sage Jiraya is not. PLus Kabuto can control the enviroment better than Jiraya can with muki tensei.
 

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Who's to say it'll even matter since he's not using frog senjutsu..
 

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Kabuto has the KKG of multiple ninja and healing feats

Jiraiya has Fukusaku and shima

I don't agree Baked beans.

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Can evade Susano'o Arrow yet can't evade Pa's Tongue?

SM Kabuto should takes this under most conditions against Jiraiya.

He can't evade if he's distracted first

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It's not that easy bruh. Manda v2 is faster, stronger, and smarter, it won't fall into the swamp. Susanoo will because it's a large heavy construct but manda is fast and extremely powerful.


Manda isnt fast enough to evade a swamp instantly forming beneath it. Keep in mind the swamp that sunk a boss snake was from a drugged base Jiraiya who later says it was a puny swamp. A full powered SM Jiraiyas swamp is catching him

Yeah you seriously underestimating the size of manda v2. please google it and then get back to me.

No i'm not

Kabuto splits the ground in half and frees Manda from Yomi Numa.

By that point Gamabunta has already shoved his sword into Manda 2's brain through his eyeballs.
 

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Nope because Deva Path evaded FRS point-blank after being distracted. SM Kabuto does the same regardless who possesses Sage Sensing and superior reflexes. Pa's Tongue isn't catching SM Kabuto. If you're still in doubt, Kabuto's snakes eats Pa alive regardless.
 

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Nope because Deva Path evaded FRS point-blank after being distracted. SM Kabuto does the same regardless who possesses Sage Sensing and superior reflexes. Pa's Tongue isn't catching SM Kabuto. If you're still in doubt, Kabuto's snakes eats Pa alive regardless.

Bruh i just showed you a scan of Kabuto being unable to dodge Susanoo arrow after being distracted so your original point fails. At any rate frog call would paralyze Kabuto first so he can't move

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And if you want to argue that he dodges frog call, then he uses Yomi Numa first to distract Kabuto, then uses Frog Call, then Pa's tongue snags him.
 

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Bruh i just showed you a scan of Kabuto being unable to dodge Susanoo arrow after being distracted so your original point fails. At any rate frog call would paralyze Kabuto first so he can't move

Doesn't matter because Susano'o Arrow >>> Pa's Tongue.

Now refute my argument.

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And if you want to argue that he dodges frog call, then he uses Yomi Numa first to distract Kabuto, then uses Frog Call, then Pa's tongue snags him.

Please, if SM Kabuto can mount an offense against 2 MS Users and keep his distance between them, he can certainly apply the pressure on only 1 Imperfect Sage.
 

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@ Swamp argument ^ Kabuto can change the enviroment with muki tensei and Manda is bigger than that swamp plus Jiraya cant attack mand v2 and fight Sm kabuto at the same time
 
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