Reasons why Naruto <<<< Preta Path

[Rohan]

Hell no

Once you go narudo you never go back :bdpf:

We will see :bdpf:

That's true, cause once you have seen the Divine form of Lord Itachi, there is no turning back !

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[Jiren]

@Bold From what we seen, yeah they can absorb most jutsu.



@Bold Yes it does, what Pain absorbed was already balanced senjutsu, Preta turned to stone.

@Underline Madara is a juubi jin, Sasuke is not. Madara became one with senjutsu, Sasuke did not. Sasuke was given a byproduct and he applied it to a jutsu. Are we going to argue the entire SA are jins that can form tbb because they were given byproduct chakra from Naruto that gave them cloaks?



@Bold But the power is still scale based upon consumption, I remember Madara telling Naruto "too much energy"

@Underline, No, not all his moves. He was still able to outclass and defeat Preta with standard SM kumite. With RSM, he is miles ahead from that point.


@Bold, if all 9 bijuu chakra are balanced senjutsu, then why did Kurama need gather it at Vote 2? if thats the case there was no need to gather it. Conjecture on your part, you have normal bijuu chakra amd senjutsu flipped around.

@Underline, already explained this above............

1. A byproduct explain? CM takes skill to use or else they would end up like Juugo or one of those monsters in the prison. He applied senjutsu to his chidori and bijuu chakra and senjutsu is difference of control. You're try to say senjutsu = bijuu chakra now? Anyone can use bijuu chakra. TBB is something only naruto can use because the bijuu is inside him. BIg difference.

2. 1 rasenshuriken is too much? Is that a joke. Pein absorbed it no problem and NAgato absorbed Bees chakra and KCM Narutos rasengan. Madara andSasuke is far more powerful than him.

3. SM kumite is taijutsu based attack which Pein can't sense so yh only tai moves would work on PReta.

4. Maybe Kurama gathered more to power up his move. I thought that was the whole point of gathering NE so it becomes powerful senjutsu and add it to power..

 

[Remedy]

1. A byproduct explain? CM takes skill to use or else they would end up like Juugo or one of those monsters in the prison. He applied senjutsu to his chidori and bijuu chakra and senjutsu is difference of control. You're try to say senjutsu = bijuu chakra now? Anyone can use bijuu chakra. TBB is something only naruto can use because the bijuu is inside him. BIg difference.

Yes, a byproduct meaning a portion of chakra given to apply on top of something. Doesn't mean they are naturals at it, it just means they can use what is given well. Just as Anko and the sound ninja used/ handeled CM too, are you going to makes cliams for them now? To say Hinata can enter into BM because she applied Kurama chakra well is a stretch. Sasuke was given senjutsu, he just applied it. Not everyone can handled nor control bijuu chakra. No, I'm not saying bijuu chakra=senjutsu, thats your claim

2. 1 rasenshuriken is too much? Is that a joke. Pein absorbed it no problem and NAgato absorbed Bees chakra and KCM Narutos rasengan. Madara andSasuke is far more powerful than him.

Didn't say it was too much, just said Madara scaled it by saying "too much energy"

3. SM kumite is taijutsu based attack which Pein can't sense so yh only tai moves would work on PReta.

So are we coming to a concession that not ALL of Naruto's attacks are ninjutsu?

4. Maybe Kurama gathered more to power up his move. I thought that was the whole point of gathering NE so it becomes powerful senjutsu and add it to power..

Doesnt matter, absolutley no point to gather NE, and mold it into senjutsu if Kurama's chakra was already that, no point for Naruto entering BSM if kurama chakra is already senjutsu. You passing off mere opinion as facts with no manga scan to back as proof.

 

[super michael]

The Shinobi alliance doesn't control the Bijuu cloak, Naruto is the one that controls them subconciously stated by Ino. Naruto does all the work on controlling the Shinobi alliance.

As for the CM Sasuke is the one that does the controlling and does partial transformation, Sasuke is able to enhance his jutsu with the CM.

 

[Jiren]

Yes, a byproduct meaning a portion of chakra given to apply on top of something. Doesn't mean they are naturals at it, it just means they can use what is given well. Just as Anko and the sound ninja used/ handeled CM too, are you going to makes cliams for them now? To say Hinata can enter into BM because she applied Kurama chakra well is a stretch. Sasuke was given senjutsu, he just applied it. Not everyone can handled nor control bijuu chakra. No, I'm not saying bijuu chakra=senjutsu, thats your claim
Didn't say it was too much, just said Madara scaled it by saying "too much energy"


So are we coming to a concession that not ALL of Naruto's attacks are ninjutsu?

Doesnt matter, absolutley no point to gather NE, and mold it into senjutsu if Kurama's chakra was already that, no point for Naruto entering BSM if kurama chakra is already senjutsu. You passing off mere opinion as facts with no manga scan to back as proof.

1. That is something you made up so why should I even answer it? If anko recieved hagos powerup and had immense reserves and preta path abilitiy then why not? IF that's not what you're saying why are you comparing bijuu chakra and senjutsu. One requires knowledge and adaptability to utilize and the other is essientially a power boost.

2. Well I thought that was obvious. I was mostly referring to Narutos rasengans the jutsu he spams the most.

3. That's not an opinion. Narutos attacks were weak without Kurama gathering the extra NE to match Indras Arrow so what are you saying?

 

[Remedy]

1.That is something you made up so why should I even answer it? If anko recieved hagos powerup and had immense reserves and preta path abilitiy then why not? IF that's not what you're saying why are you comparing bijuu chakra and senjutsu. One requires knowledge and adaptability to utilize and the other is essientially a power boost.

@Bold I'm not talking about them recieving a Hago powerup, I'm refering to them utilizing SM since they handeled CM just as well as Sasuke, that is your cliam, as well as the preta debate.
@Underline You said bijuu chakra is senjutsu, not me. They both require adaptbility, training and knowledge to use, what was the point of bee training Naruto? the only reason Kurama chakra wasn't harmful to the SA, like it was to Sakura in early part 2 was because Naruto didn't want it to be.

2. Well I thought that was obvious. I was mostly referring to Narutos rasengans the jutsu he spams the most.

I see, but Naruto has handled a experienced Rinnegan user and beat most paths with SM alone, he knows how to handle himself.
3.

That's not an opinion. Narutos attacks were weak without Kurama gathering the extra NE to match Indras Arrow so what are you saying?

What is a opinion is you saying bijuu chakra is senjutsu with no manga scans as proof, I brought the latter as a refute.

 

[Jiren]

@Bold I'm not talking about them recieving a Hago powerup, I'm refering to them utilizing SM since they handeled CM just as well as Sasuke, that is your cliam, as well as the preta debate.
@Underline You said bijuu chakra is senjutsu, not me. They both require adaptbility, training and knowledge to use, what was the point of bee training Naruto? the only reason Kurama chakra wasn't harmful to the SA, like it was to Sakura in early part 2 was because Naruto didn't want it to be.

I see, but Naruto has handled a experienced Rinnegan user and beat most paths with SM alone, he knows how to handle himself.
3. What is a opinion is you saying bijuu chakra is senjutsu with no manga scans as proof, I brought the latter as a refute.

I'm not saying bijuu chakra is senjutsu wtf? You're the one who 1st started comparing them together. I would drop the whole bijuu chakra comparison and senjutsu comparison right now if you handn't brought it up in the 1st place.

Bee trained Naruto to learn more about his mode. As you can see there was no problem of him losing control over his KCM or worry about balancing it's power with his own. Bijuu chakra is simply a boost to your own abilities.

Senjutsu is something else entirely from bijuu chakra. Senjutsu is the curse mark whether you want to admit it or not. If they handled the curse mark they can handle senjutsu.

 

[Styles]

Preta path isnt limitless as Databook claims

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That was a fake Rinnegan though so it don't really hold value.
Pain absorbed FRS with questions real Rinnegan with dead bodies and had no problems and it was the real Naruto not a clone like Madara was fighting.

 

[Nick01]

Fail Thread.

Sasuke has never been shown absorbing NE. Preta isn't a big of a threat as Sasuke Fappers make it up to be.
CM is nothing compared to SM, let alone RSM.

Besides, Frog Kata obliterates Preta laughable diff.
Naruto>>>>Preta. Get over it.

 

[ShiroT]

1. Ninjustu and Senjusu have no actual handle on Preta Path. As we've seen Preta Path can intake any jutsu but its up to the user to handle the chakra. Madara and Sasuke have both handled senjutsu as opposed to Nagato who has never encountered it before.

2. Large amounts of senjutsu is not a factor for Preta path users as well. Since Madara is a Juubi Jin and Sasuke has Hagos chakra as well as skill with senjutsu large amounts of senjutsu would just make them stronger.


3. Preta has never failed to absorb ninjutsu bar mokuton wood dragon. All of narutos moves are ninjutsu chakra ball based so preta would defeat all of his moves no problem.

4. Kind of repeating myself here but CM is senjutsu and the all 9 bijuu and jubbi chakra is senjutsu as well. There is nothing all that special about Narutos moves that stops preta from absorbing it.

Thoughts?

1. The title of this thread is about preta path and senjutsu, not sasuke/madara/etc

2. Again, about preta path itself and not the users

4. Again not even relevant.

if your going to make a her der sasuke has this advantage over naruto then adleast make that the topic of the thread instead of making this stupid titles trying to act like this is about preta path when its infact about sasuke/madara

 

[Dantee]

OP is correct.

 

[Dantee]

ermygawd you totally schooled me man, totally

Deadshit is upset he got school by a noob? lmao

 

[true enigma]

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This thread dealt serious damage to the nardo folk... Its 2 bad:bdpf:

 

[Jiren]

1. The title of this thread is about preta path and senjutsu, not sasuke/madara/etc

2. Again, about preta path itself and not the users

4. Again not even relevant.

if your going to make a her der sasuke has this advantage over naruto then adleast make that the topic of the thread instead of making this stupid titles trying to act like this is about preta path when its infact about sasuke/madara

?? Preta is a power of the rinnegan both madara and sasuke possesses. Naruto fan argument is that senjutsu makes their preta useless which isnt true.

 

[take it easy]

Show the Viz Scan then. :sdo:

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