Strongest Akatsuki member Neji & Sakura can take out?

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The tech takes no chakra from I've read. It's a blood ritual equivalent to a satanist.
:lmao: you really need to log off. Everything requires chakra from day 1. It was heavily hint at part 1, every ritual needs chakra to activate........until part 2, even some jutsu was not shown hand seal (or skip it entirely) or kneeling chakra same as part 1 cause readers already know about that. This is just a basic knowlegde. Same to seal on scroll, it has to make blood contract at first, then the user must kneel out chakra to his summon seal to summon.

Same to Hidan, his skin changed every time when he lick the blood.
Blood ritual to contain curse seal on Sasuke, wall of text on patient face under the handchief............ everything needs chakra to make it happens, just simple logic, not some kind of asspull.
 

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:lmao: you really need to log off. Everything requires chakra from day 1. It was heavily hint at part 1, every ritual needs chakra to activate........until part 2, even some jutsu was not shown hand seal (or skip it entirely) or kneeling chakra same as part 1 cause readers already know about that. This is just a basic knowlegde. Same to seal on scroll, it has to make blood contract at first, then the user must kneel out chakra to his summon seal to summon.

Same to Hidan, his skin changed every time when he lick the blood.
Blood ritual to contain curse seal on Sasuke, wall of text on patient face under the handchief............ everything needs chakra to make it happens, just simple logic, not some kind of asspull.
Sounds like you dont actually have an argument to me. :bdpf:
 

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Once again, you dont even have any proof that you have a full time job and career. Everything you have said until now is just based on your own fantasy. There is no proof at all.
Oh baking down huh? Finally :)

Ok, In first place, you are the one who doesn't have any proof here, you are hyping over Byakugan analytic abilities, and speculating over a weakness that is not canon, and also on a way the Hyuuga arts can exploit it. That in not proof to me, just crap, lots and lots of it.

jajajaja Unfortunately, I am not interested in proving facts of my personal life to you :) I was just apologizing for not replying in time.

What Kishi write behind the story or when he is not working on the manga is not even considered part of the manga. If he want it to be part of the manga then it should be includes inside the story, not just an explanation for fan service.
If Kishi wrote it, I consider it canon, you came with desperate ANIME feats and you are telling me I cannot use the Databooks? Please, how biased can you be?

I don't see fan service, I think that is a way for butthurt people to decide which material is canon and which not, depending on if they like the outcome. I only consider canon manga and databooks, and may be some movies whether I like what happens there or not.

So your claim is worthless, since you can not prove that Data book is part of the manga. Some thing like this :
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Not just a pure fan service to milk more money, just like anime and other stuff.
Just find anything about chakra on Hidan's feats, but not even there you will convince me, I said it before I will say it again, Byakugan is not perfect, It has flaws such as the user, I gave you examples of it.

So let me tell you again, your opinion is invalid, since the obivious fact is that Databook is not inside the manga.
It was written by Kishi, talk to the hand. I won't change my opinion because a biased random Hyuuga fan says so, you are no one to determine what should be taken into account and what shouldn't, you provided an anime feat, you lost all your credibility.

If you want to use any source outside than the manga as canon material, then all source that follow the manga that has been approved by Kishi is counted as canon material. You have no say in this matter to that fact other than your self. Just like 1+1=2, if you want it to be 3 then keep it to yourself lolz. Fact is fact, not your self claimed opinion.
That is shit logic, since I consider the Databooks as canon because he wrote them and are directly linked to his main work, why do I must consider anime, or the novels or every movie as canon since they are the work of someone else that most of the times the story goes in another direction contradicting Kishi's main work, you are not making any sense, I don't see you line of reasoning, there is none.

And about the immortal arguement, if you claim it then you have to take your own failure, not trying to make yourself looks good as if you still right about that despite of being wrong.
It's Neji vs Hidan , you can have that victory if you feel too bad about loosing the rest of the debate.

Even if excludes all the source outside of the manga, you still lose on this point. Just like i have been explained from the begining.
Byakugan can see chakra flow from within the body and allow the user to use their gentle fist to block all the tenketsu from the enemy and prevent them from using chakra or perform any jutsu. So there is nothin left for Hidan to use, cause he is just useless with body that "never" rot.
hahahaha good one, so Neji is attacking directly a target he cannot kill, a target that can counter attack him in any time of the 64 palms, a target that had his heads a limbs apart from his body and he still could talk, a target that had his head cut off and sewn back and he still was able to move and perform his ritual. Right.
 

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Oh baking down huh? Finally :)

Ok, In first place, you are the one who doesn't have any proof here, you are hyping over Byakugan analytic abilities, and speculating over a weakness that is not canon, and also on a way the Hyuuga arts can exploit it. That in not proof to me, just crap, lots and lots of it.

jajajaja Unfortunately, I am not interested in proving facts of my personal life to you :) I was just apologizing for not replying in time.


If Kishi wrote it, I consider it canon, you came with desperate ANIME feats and you are telling me I cannot use the Databooks? Please, how biased can you be?

I don't see fan service, I think that is a way for butthurt people to decide which material is canon and which not, depending on if they like the outcome. I only consider canon manga and databooks, and may be some movies whether I like what happens there or not.



Just find anything about chakra on Hidan's feats, but not even there you will convince me, I said it before I will say it again, Byakugan is not perfect, It has flaws such as the user, I gave you examples of it.


It was written by Kishi, talk to the hand. I won't change my opinion because a biased random Hyuuga fan says so, you are no one to determine what should be taken into account and what shouldn't, you provided an anime feat, you lost all your credibility.


That is shit logic, since I consider the Databooks as canon because he wrote them and are directly linked to his main work, why do I must consider anime, or the novels or every movie as canon since they are the work of someone else that most of the times the story goes in another direction contradicting Kishi's main work, you are not making any sense, I don't see you line of reasoning, there is none.


It's Neji vs Hidan , you can have that victory if you feel too bad about loosing the rest of the debate.


hahahaha good one, so Neji is attacking directly a target he cannot kill, a target that can counter attack him in any time of the 64 palms, a target that had his heads a limbs apart from his body and he still could talk, a target that had his head cut off and sewn back and he still was able to move and perform his ritual. Right.
Hahaha, took you serveral days to think up of a counter to my post. :lmao:

Anyway back to the main topic:
I have proved according to sources that can be found within the manga even in your so called data book fact, so all you have said until now about my anime source is just show how shallow you are lol. The databook is even dig deeper on matters than canon episodes. So your troll trying to debunk "all the source that i have been provided" is not gonna working here ;)

Once again, you are nothin to decide what is what when you are not part of official publisher that have been approved by Kishi or Kishi himself. Only those who have all right under protection of the law has any say into this matters.
Second the manga start from pilot and ended at the end, anything else that is not inside of it is just additional information which can be with or without.
Third by your fail logic, the manga is not even 100% written by Kishi mean all your point become useless. Any author of any story can do anything as their are pleased - by any mean to make up the story. Anything under their agreement to the story will become part of story as their decision. So your own bias opinion doesnt matter at all.

Fourth, dont just contradict yourself like that. Can Hidan sew his own head ? The answer is obiviously NOPE. The fact is all your claim about fallen body become worthless when Hidan has no ability to put it back together. The only given fact within the manga is that his body still function even body part is separated (mean body part works individually but he doesnt possesed ability to piece it back together - that is Kakuzu feat.
By this mean, once his tenketsus is blocked, there is no way for him to reopen as there is no feat to support him. I dare you to find any feat that support him to reopen his tenketsus for chakra.
Also show feat that he can counter attack 64 palms :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 

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Kakuza does in long range but he stood no chance in close combat especially that Neji can easily destroy all of his 5 hearts within 8 trig ram palm
1- How does Neji enter close range?

2- If neji gets close, he gets restrained by the threads, and gets gian trough the brain
 

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1- How does Neji enter close range?

2- If neji gets close, he gets restrained by the threads, and gets gian trough the brain
1.I'm saying if Neji does somehow able to get close range by chance then he would be more likely to win.

2. Neji can easily break the threads out by simply by moulding and emitting chakra from his tenketsu points and cut Kakuzu's threads, just like he did to Kido webs or Kisame's Water Prison. Depending how much he use it, he can also emit chakra from his entire body instead of having 1 part of body component.

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Neji was being restrained by Kidomaru web and was able to break the Webs which was stated to be stronger than steel.
If Neji was able to break a material so strong then I'm pretty sure Kakuzu threads would be much easier.
 

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1.I'm saying if Neji does somehow able to get close range by chance then he would be more likely to win.

2. Neji can easily break the threads out by simply by moulding and emitting chakra from his tenketsu points and cut Kakuzu's threads, just like he did to Kido webs or Kisame's Water Prison. Depending how much he use it, he can also emit chakra from his entire body instead of having 1 part of body component.

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Neji was being restrained by Kidomaru web and was able to break the Webs which was stated to be stronger than steel.
If Neji was able to break a material so strong then I'm pretty sure Kakuzu threads would be much easier.
Agreed on the threads thing. Disagree on if Neji gets close it's victory for him. Kakuzu has masks attached to his body to cover all his flanks. Neji doesn't have clone feints and he can't keep rotation forever (and i think gian is too piercing for rotation anyways). Neji doesn't win this, no way in hell he does.
 

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Agreed on the threads thing. Disagree on if Neji gets close it's victory for him. Kakuzu has masks attached to his body to cover all his flanks. Neji doesn't have clone feints and he can't keep rotation forever (and i think gian is too piercing for rotation anyways). Neji doesn't win this, no way in hell he does.
The mask are composed of the hearts and it can easily be destroyed by gentlefist depending how much chakra he inserted into them. Gentle Fist is extremely versatile so as long as Kakuzu mask are attached to his body then Neji more likely to strike first before Kakuzu spits out his elemental jutsu.

Please enlighten me on this one but Interestingly enough, Studio Pierrot also like to believe Neji beats Kakuzu in a close combat fight despite it's "filler" or "noncanon" , they knotted down how to beat Kakuza in logical premise.

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Anyway, this is all comes down to speculation which is why I like to use the phrase "Likely" Neji can either win or lose in this battle aspect so I can also agree with your argument that Kakuzu may as well likely to use his jutsu before Neji get to him even with rotation won't last long or using air palm won't able to strike every monster hearts.
 

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The mask are composed of the hearts and it can easily be destroyed by gentlefist depending how much chakra he inserted into them. Gentle Fist is extremely versatile so as long as Kakuzu mask are attached to his body then Neji more likely to strike first before Kakuzu spits out his elemental jutsu.

Please enlighten me on this one but Interestingly enough, Studio Pierrot also like to believe Neji beats Kakuzu in a close combat fight despite it's "filler" or "noncanon" , they knotted down how to beat Kakuza in logical premise.

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Anyway, this is all comes down to speculation which is why I like to use the phrase "Likely" Neji can either win or lose in this battle aspect so I can also agree with your argument that Kakuzu may as well likely to use his jutsu before Neji get to him even with rotation won't last long or using air palm won't able to strike every monster hearts.
Dude, Neji is never using gentle fist on Kakuzu

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Getting close range DOESN'T MEAN taijutsu. Neji gets close range and still he has to deal with the mask. He's never getting close enough to use gentle fist

IF HE manages to get close enough to be in the blindspot of the masks, then he stomps Kakuzu in CQC and wins
 

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Dude, Neji is never using gentle fist on Kakuzu

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Getting close range DOESN'T MEAN taijutsu. Neji gets close range and still he has to deal with the mask. He's never getting close enough to use gentle fist

IF HE manages to get close enough to be in the blindspot of the masks, then he stomps Kakuzu in CQC and wins
It depends how many mask he has to deal with before approaching to him and from the GETGO if he's at the short range, then he might able to make it through if his rotation lasted for long and then quickly leap into gentle fist to strike like the instance with Kidomaru. He maybe able to pull it off. I mean Kakuzu mask isn't spammable from the way I see it; it just attack for one long burst.

It happens most battle in Naruto, after big burst attack, they wait and see if their opponents are dead but Neji in this scenario was quick on his feet which leaves Kakuza left unguarded after his rotation finish being dealted by large attack.
 
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Hahaha, took you serveral days to think up of a counter to my post. :lmao:
Yeah I have more interesting things to do... I pity you...

Anyway back to the main topic:
I have proved according to sources that can be found within the manga even in your so called data book fact, so all you have said until now about my anime source is just show how shallow you are lol. The databook is even dig deeper on matters than canon episodes. So your troll trying to debunk "all the source that i have been provided" is not gonna working here ;)
Ok, what? What are you saying? I seriously missed you point here. What is not gonna work if all I did was providing facts from sources that Kishimoto made himself with no intermediary, no need of supervision or approval, his work. That is canon to me, I am not letting you or anyone tell me what is canon from what is not, but, for the record, the Databook are considered canon for most of Naruto fans.

But hey, you can consider anime canon if you want... I am not stopping you, just strongly disagree.

Once again, you are nothin to decide what is what when you are not part of official publisher that have been approved by Kishi or Kishi himself.
I completely agree, but the thing is neither do you.

Only those who have all right under protection of the law has any say into this matters.
That is correct, but they don't do it, canon is a fanmade word, we made it and use it, we determine what WE consider canon, the will change from Naruto fan to another, so stop trying to convince me of a story I believe Kishi didn't write, because I will never take it into account.

Second the manga start from pilot and ended at the end, anything else that is not inside of it is just additional information which can be with or without.
Still wrote by Kishi, It's Kishi's work, I will consider it canon. Sue me.

Third by your fail logic, the manga is not even 100% written by Kishi mean all your point become useless. Any author of any story can do anything as their are pleased - by any mean to make up the story. Anything under their agreement to the story will become part of story as their decision. So your own bias opinion doesnt matter at all.
That is your failed logic sir, not mine, since Databooks are apart from the main story, separated from the manga, you just proved how canon the Databooks are.

Anime was not entirely made by Kishi, SP did it so anything that go against the events of the manga, Kishi's work prevails.

Fourth, dont just contradict yourself like that. Can Hidan sew his own head ? The answer is obiviously NOPE. The fact is all your claim about fallen body become worthless when Hidan has no ability to put it back together. The only given fact within the manga is that his body still function even body part is separated (mean body part works individually but he doesnt possessed ability to piece it back together - that is Kakuzu feat.
I never said he could put his body back together, read it again, I said he had his head cut off, and then sewn back, not by himself, obviously, and then his mind, body and technique work just as well as ever.

By this mean, once his tenketsus is blocked, there is no way for him to reopen as there is no feat to support him. I dare you to find any feat that support him to reopen his tenketsus for chakra.
Also show feat that he can counter attack 64 palms :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I dare you to find something that proves that it will hit him, that Hidan will take 64 palms like a puppet without counter attacking, I dare you to prove that it would work and close his chakra flow, I dare you to find a feat that says he uses chakra to perform his ritual, I dare you to find a way for Neji to kill him, I dare you to find a way for Neji to win this.
 

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how is neji dealing with this [ ] and this [ ] if he even gets close
Please enlighten me on this one but Interestingly enough, Studio Pierrot also like to believe Neji beats Kakuzu in a close combat fight despite it's "filler" or "noncanon" , they knotted down how to beat Kakuza in logical premise.
lolololololol :lmao:
 
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