Overpowered Prime Kaguya, JJ Hagoromo [Forbidden fruit amount of chakra is constant]

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys . I would like to share with you my freshly found out facts . Please be patient and get ready for full of proofs and evidences based on ************** logic post ;P.

We know how powerfull was Kaguya as shown in the manga. Yet she had long way to regain her full power.

↓ The birth of Hagoromo and Hamura. Kaguya's chakra had become dispersed.

"Mankind, endowed with Kaguya's dispersed chakra, brought back the turbulent times and wielded ninjutsu as a weapon..."

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Just let's slowly read these statements above slowly and you should get my point, did you get it ?

Yes,
Prime Kaguya = Kaguya + Forbidden fruit (chakra of whole world)
Prime Kaguya = Post birth Kaguya + Hagoromo + Hamura
Prime Kaguya = Post birth Kaguya +Hagoromo + Hamura +Mankind chakra
Prime Kaguya = Prime juubi + Hagoromo + Hamura
Prime Kaguya = JJ Hagoromo + Hamura
Prime Kaguya = JJ Hagoromo weakened + Hamura + dispersed chakra to Mankind(ninshu)
Prime Kaguya = post JJ Hagoromo + Hamura + dispersed chakra to Mankind + Nine tailed beasts

Considering that above, now we can easily understand what Hagoromo meant by that:

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and BZ confirms that Hagoromo and Hamura's chakra was just Kaguya's dispersed chakra:

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also about others:

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and what Kaguya meant here:

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Considering all of that above:

Prime Kaguya would be equal to at leat = Her power up version + Naruto + Sasuke + Kakashi + Sakura + Hagoromo's remaining chakra, but is that even true or maybe there is more ?

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^^ We know that Juubi is basically nature energy manifested, or rather God Tree with remaining husk of Kaguya and God Tree transfromation.

We know also that Juubi can absorn nature energy to evolve and trying to gain back to his prime form:

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Still isn't it weird ? I mean if Juubi can just keep absorbing nature energy that why it stopped once reaching final form ?. Could it mean you can not exceed maximum amount of chakra your body can get at the peak ?

If yes, that would means ?... wait KCMNaruto, it means AMOUNT OF CHAKRA IN THE WORLD can not suprass forbidden fruit's amount of chakra ? right.

Ok, but some of you may know think but nature energy is not chakra, right ?. Yeah, but then how Juubi could use TBB at least ? That would mean there is so way for nature energy to be conversed into chakra, right ?

OK, but some of you may say: "if chakra amount can not be surprassed into world, then what is the point traning and growing up your chakra ?, how nature can keep it not surprassed ?"

For first question, it is just mere way to make your body stronger and stronger everntually reaching your maximum chakra amount and power your body can handle at IT's peak

However it is can not be destined if one can become jinchurki or even Ten tails host, wouldn't it break limit ?. Of course no, because mother nature adjust it using cycle of birth and death... One is born while another dies, doesn't it sound familliar ?

yes, it is is how in our world mother nature/God stay on guard and use cycle of birth and death so people wouldn't be more then planet's land can contain... I mean of course amount of one continent may change, same with race of people however there would be never more mankind then planet can contain.

That mean when one shinobi die, chakra got free to be added to either absolute chakra around the world or rather is conversed into nature energy to be conversed again into chakra when it will be needed.

Summary:​

• Prime Kaguya is insanely powerfull as she had whole chakra in the world
• Prime Kaguya = Kaguya + Forbidden fruit (chakra of whole world)
• Prime Kaguya = Post birth Kaguya + Hagoromo + Hamura
• Prime Kaguya = Post birth Kaguya +Hagoromo + Hamura +Mankind chakra
• Prime Kaguya = Prime juubi + Hagoromo + Hamura
• Prime Kaguya = JJ Hagoromo + Hamura
• Prime Kaguya = JJ Hagoromo weakened + Hamura + dispersed chakra to Mankind(ninshu)
• Prime Kaguya = post JJ Hagoromo + Hamura + dispersed chakra to Mankind + Nine tailed beasts
• Amount of chakra in the world can not exceed and is constant. Free chakra is either around the word, stored in pure world or conversed into nature energy which is around the whole planet
• JJ Hagoromo was nost just Hagoromo + Juubi as we know. No it was Hagoromo + Prime Juubi.
• Prime Juubi is nine tailed beasts + all dispersed chakra by Hagoromo while he was JJ.

Thanks for reading, I hope you enjoyed . Feel free to disagree but with reasons .

 

[Adam Driver]

I disagree, Itachi still solos

 

[Dantee]

I have a feeling reading this will give me a headache so everybody what do you think?

 

[Illuminater]

It's just a load of horse crap imo.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

Prime Kaguya may have all the chakra in the world, but Itachi still soloes

 

[Dantee]

Okay I read it agreed with Prime Kaguya and all but Itachi would still!!!!!!

 

[KCMNaruto]

I disagree, Itachi still solos

Prime Kaguya may have all the chakra in the world, but Itachi still soloes

Oh I see, after all we in the middle of Itachi's story told to us by Sasuke so like filler genjutsu dream lol.

Although Itachi's abilities > Kaguya's abilities but her sheer hax and great power would make him run for his life while clashing with her

Okay I read it agreed with Prime Kaguya and all but Itachi would still!!!!!!

I am glad you at least took some time . On serious note what do you think about chakra explanation. Would it make sense ? I mean that chakra in the world can not be exceed and also how Prime Kaguya was stronger then her end of manga version ?

 

[Adam Driver]

Oh I see, after all we in the middle of Itachi's story told to us by Sasuke so like filler genjutsu dream lol.

Although Itachi's abilities > Kaguya's abilities but her sheer hax and great power would make him run for his life while clashing with her



I am glad you at least took some time . On serious note what do you think about chakra explanation. Would it make sense ? I mean that chakra in the world can not be exceed and also how Prime Kaguya was stronger then her end of manga version ?

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Itachi still solos
Yata mirror gg
Totsuka gg

:flakez:

 

[Xee Etbrkz]

This is in response to my thread right?

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I am still not sure if Natural Energy and Spiritual Energy are inteconvertible, but this scan is kinda suggestive

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[Commander Axe]

Bro that's a lot of texts. Like, damn bruh

 

[oxtopus]

Didn't read through but kaguya was at her strongest during her fight with team 7,kaguya did not originally possess all the chakra that has existed for more than a thousand years,it belongs to her but she didn't possess it.

 

[Dantee]

Oh I see, after all we in the middle of Itachi's story told to us by Sasuke so like filler genjutsu dream lol.

Although Itachi's abilities > Kaguya's abilities but her sheer hax and great power would make him run for his life while clashing with her



I am glad you at least took some time . On serious note what do you think about chakra explanation. Would it make sense ? I mean that chakra in the world can not be exceed and also how Prime Kaguya was stronger then her end of manga version ?

I think chakra on the planet can exceed what Kaguya had. Even if she was the origin she has not been around for the last centuries to take it back. Chakra is something that's not passed down but all living organisms are now born with. Just like how the human popullation is steadidly increasing so would chakra imo.

 

[Mari Makinami]

But Totsuka GG :sdo:

 

[KCMNaruto]

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:flakez:

Nice, your bait is strong. However even you shouldn't argue that once Itachi is dead he is in Hagoromo's arsenal of army.
I mean he can be called from death and aid Hagoromo in fight lol. According to DB IV Hagoromo command over life and death, sorry.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Didn't read through but kaguya was at her strongest during her fight with team 7,kaguya did not originally possess all the chakra that has existed for more than a thousand years,it belongs to her but she didn't possess it.

Then I don't need to hear your opinion here, do not waste my time.

and NO, you didn't debunk anything I stated so I accept your defeat. Manga and Databook support me sorry.

I think chakra on the planet can exceed what Kaguya had. Even if she was the origin she has not been around for the last centuries to take it back. Chakra is something that's not passed down but all living organisms are now born with. Just like how the human popullation is steadidly increasing so would chakra imo.

Here is key, the chakra is released after death of person and either converted to nature energy for further use or come back to pure world where it's wait until it is called again.

Our population may steadily increasing but we will never exceed limit of mankind our planet can contain, simple as that. That why death and life cycle is for this.

 

[Mohamed Nabil]

Nice, your bait is strong. However even you shouldn't argue that once Itachi is dead he is in Hagoromo's arsenal of army.
I mean he can be called from death and aid Hagoromo in fight lol. According to DB IV Hagoromo command over life and death, sorry.

Itachi would use KA and put Hagoromo under his control

 

[Aznkidd]

You completely forgot that
Prime Kaguya = Himawari + chakra fruit
Prime Kaguya = Himawari + all beasts

 

[KCMNaruto]

Itachi would use KA and put Hagoromo under his control

Could he still after being death ?. I mean the crow was dead with the eye.
Hagoromo uses Outer path and revive Itachi taking in exchange guaranty that Itachi won't solo him.

You completely forgot that
Prime Kaguya = Himawari + chakra fruit
Prime Kaguya = Himawari + all beasts

Maybe ;p.

 

[Commander Axe]

Kinda skimmed through it, although I do somewhat disagree about the chakra limit. Like Dantee said, living beings are born with chakra and disperse it daily. Chakra has no finite cap. And I always saw nature energy as a sort of chakra but not belonging to organisms specifically, just raw wild energy. I might be wrong though i'll have to read the wiki on it

 

[KCMNaruto]

Kinda skimmed through it, although I do somewhat disagree about the chakra limit. Like Dantee said, living beings are born with chakra and disperse it daily. Chakra has no finite cap. And I always saw nature energy as a sort of chakra but not belonging to organisms specifically, just raw wild energy. I might be wrong though i'll have to read the wiki on it

Ok, nice to know that. what do you think about shinobi dying something due to disease or other forced way ? Isn't it just for chakra to be released and new shinobi would be born ? Just think about it.

Of course they may disperse it daily and if chakra is dispersed or destroyed then it is reproduced by nature most likely or in pure world, but amount is not exceed. About nature energy it is just my idea, however we know chakra can contain pure and impre world and it was stated chakra goes to pure world, so maybe this chakra is stored or just randomly passing in pure world until call for it (shinobi born, someone growing stronger)