Genjutsu users are bad matchup for Hyuuga's

[NarutoX28]

Hyuuga can't counter Izanagi and Izanami. :bdpf:

 

[Aznkidd]

Or is it, knowing you are caught in genjutsu is different from being able to break out of it (common knowledge) so unless hyuuga's are immune to sharingan genjutsu or they have a bijuu in them they do not have a counter to it, they can break free from low level genjutsu sure, but not high level genjutsu that even kage level shinobi's were caught in, so once again, prove to me hyuuga's are ummune to genjutsu because you sound like the ignorant one

So after all you refuse to go back and learn how to break out of genjutsu and how to fight against genjutsu user ?
Cause all the answer is in that 2 questions.

 

[Honord Sage]

For people who think hyuuga's a superior to uchiha's, here is a reason they're not

The Hyuuga clan are prone to genjutsu due to the their kekkei genkai (byakugan) visual, genjutsu requires the opponent to see either the eyes or finger/crow (in itachi's case) to activate, so the byakugan having nearly 360 degrees make it easier for the hyuuga's to get caught (since basically they can see what's behind them they are not safe even from behind), hell they can even get caught from a further distance than an average shinobi due to their enhanced eye sight, not only that even in mists where the sharingan vision is limited since the byakugan can see through the mist and see the sharingan users eye, they are doomed

So basically their byakugan will be their downfall in every uchiha vs hyuuga, they can’t fight with their eyes closed (that's not even an option since their fighting style requires them to use their eyes)

Theirs only two living Uchiha’s with Sharigan ,their Clan was destroyed by two Uchiha’s Itachi and Obito that tells you over all majority of Uchiha’s were no different from other Clans.

 

[Uchihakil]

Theirs only two living Uchiha’s with Sharigan ,their Clan was destroyed by two Uchiha’s Itachi and Obito that tells you over all majority of Uchiha’s were no different from other Clans.

Oh really, then explain to me where danzou got all those sharingans and how does obito have a locker of sharingans, plus I suppose you don't know that ninja's are good at assasinating their targets (eventhough the mission was at night)

 

[Uchihakil]

So after all you refuse to go back and learn how to break out of genjutsu and how to fight against genjutsu user ?
Cause all the answer is in that 2 questions.

Can you please elaborate on wtf you mean, coz jiraiya already told us how to breakout of genjutsu, if you can't break out you are doomed, chiyo also stated her version, so what exactly do you mean by I don't know how breaking out of genjutsu works

 

[NarutoX28]

Chiyo only stated that 2 people are needed to handle an Uchiha unless you have the Sharingan. :bdpf:

 

[Honord Sage]

Oh really, then explain to me where danzou got all those sharingans and how does obito have a locker of sharingans, plus I suppose you don’t know that ninja’s are good at assasinating their targets (eventhough the mission was at night)

Fact it states that He needed all the plain Sharigan to keep using the one eye of Itachi friend,He even gave the other eye to Itachi plus Danzo had to use cells of Hashirama to power them. Fact many Uchiha had not awaken the Sharigan yet sines you need an emotional event to do so. Only a small amount of Uchiha had awoken the Sharigan and of them Only Obito,Itachi and Itachi’s friend had MS.

 

[Dantee]

Solo glance gg :flakez:

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Then explain to me what's fan fiction bout what I said, I already know with byakugan one can see if he/she is influenced with genjutsu, but that does'nt mean anything if they can't breakout, like the countless shinobi's (and kage level shinobi's) that I listed that got caught despite knowing that, they could'nt breakout, so what's the point of knowing you are in a genjutsu when you can't breakout, they can only breakout of fodder genjutsu, Ao stated that itachi can cast genjutsu and not be detected, and here you are telling me they know when they are caught, I f*cking know that, the question is, can they f*cking break out?

First every shinobi in the world chakra control is child's play to a average Hyuga . They have control over all their points

2. What make Genjutsu dangerous is not knowing you're in one all Hyuga can tell if there anyone

3. Only two clans can see chakra Genjutsu is simply sending your chakra from your body to another person's body

4 uchiha only use visual Genjutsu which a simple close of the eyes can stop

And simple chakra shield will break them out

 

[Uchihakil]

Fact it states that He needed all the plain Sharigan to keep using the one eye of Itachi friend,He even gave the other eye to Itachi plus Danzo had to use cells of Hashirama to power them. Fact many Uchiha had not awaken the Sharigan yet sines you need an emotional event to do so. Only a small amount of Uchiha had awoken the Sharigan and of them Only Obito,Itachi and Itachi’s friend had MS.

No only small amount of uchiha's awakened the Mangekyou sharingan and they are (madara, izuna, obito, shisui, itachi and sasuke) we already saw more than a handful uchiha's with sharingan, (3 police force members who itachi beat up, sarada, madara's dad, those uchiha's that killed itama senju etc) uchiha's are feared for their sharingan, uchiha's are the strongest clans that ever lived, chiyo said 'when facing an uchiha one on one, you run away' meaning uchiha's with sharingan exist, obito had lockers of sharingan, danzou had 10 three tomoe sharingans in his arm, izanagi was a technique abused by the uchiha (which means uchiha's used the technique 'alot' then izanami was introduced to counter it) meaning uchiha's used it which also proves that their are uchiha's with sharingan, but I know you already know this since you are an old member but it seems you will never agree on it, lemme ask you this, how f*cking hard is it to awaken sharin when shinobi's constantly fight? Obito awakened sharingan just to protect his friend, likewise naruto, so as long as fighting is going on, the uchiha's awakening their sharingan is a must, and sarada's case which is a different case also further proves its super easy to gain the sharingan, but ofcoarse I know you know this

 

[Uchihakil]

First every shinobi in the world chakra control is child's play to a average Hyuga . They have control over all their points

2. What make Genjutsu dangerous is not knowing you're in one all Hyuga can tell if there anyone

3. Only two clans can see chakra Genjutsu is simply sending your chakra from your body to another person's body

4 uchiha only use visual Genjutsu which a simple close of the eyes can stop

And simple chakra shield will break them out

Yea I know all that but uchiha's have strong genjutsu which won't be an easy thing to breakout despite them having good chakra control, itachi is said to be undetected with his genjutsu stated by Ao

 

[Dantee]

The Hyuga NV have better cc then any shinobi alive fact

Not fact

No one alive has better CC than Sauce. :bdpf:

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[Aznkidd]

Can you please elaborate on wtf you mean, coz jiraiya already told us how to breakout of genjutsu, if you can't break out you are doomed, chiyo also stated her version, so what exactly do you mean by I don't know how breaking out of genjutsu works

Genjutsu = Using the user chakra to match and control the chakra flow until it hit to your nerves system in your head then control your action or your vision.
Sharingan user is better than average ninja in genjutsu cause Sharingan allow the user to see the chakra in colour, so they will know more about the chakra flow within the body of the victim - not as detailed as byakugan.
To break the genjutsu the victim must disrupt the chakra flow by their skill.

Hyuga has byakugan to see everything, includes chakra point, chakra wave/flow.
Hyuga bloodline limits allow them to expel every chakra within their body to all of their tenketsu - in other words they control their own chakra flow at their free will.

Back to genjutsu topic and how normal ninja able to put genjutsu in other ninja. The answer is tenketsu. Unlike hyuga, even high level ninja can only release chakra on their hand or their feet - which mean a normal ninja can only control/defence their chakra flow from those tenketsu (only if they know the chakra from enemy is going to match theirs) but are invulnerable to other tenketsu.

Here with all the evidents from Kishi, we know that being Hyuga :
You can see the chakra from the enemy and when they are casting genjutsu
When and where opponents chakra for genjutsu is going to match their chakra flow
You can expel your chakra flow to any tenketsu within your body and release to counter incomming chakra from kyubii, weapons....
At worst possible that if chakra for genjutsu is too strong and you expel your chakra in same time to block or unmatch the flow, just like Kuybii chakra clash will result in pushing you away.

One exception that rule all out / destroy all the defense is IT. The genjutsu has level of god chakra in scale of planet. If IT is only one direction, Hyuga can still make the flow within their tenketsu unmatch to the chakra from genjutsu, but unfortunately they will be expeled from earth :bdpf:
But IT is all direction (thanks to the moon) and working simultaneously all around the target to match the chakra flow for a quite of time, mean Hyuga dont have that kind level of chakra to defense them from the god chakra.

 

[Honord Sage]

No only small amount of uchiha's awakened the Mangekyou sharingan and they are (madara, izuna, obito, shisui, itachi and sasuke) we already saw more than a handful uchiha's with sharingan, (3 police force members who itachi beat up, sarada, madara's dad, those uchiha's that killed itama senju etc) uchiha's are feared for their sharingan, uchiha's are the strongest clans that ever lived, chiyo said 'when facing an uchiha one on one, you run away' meaning uchiha's with sharingan exist, obito had lockers of sharingan, danzou had 10 three tomoe sharingans in his arm, izanagi was a technique abused by the uchiha (which means uchiha's used the technique 'alot' then izanami was introduced to counter it) meaning uchiha's used it which also proves that their are uchiha's with sharingan, but I know you already know this since you are an old member but it seems you will never agree on it, lemme ask you this, how f*cking hard is it to awaken sharin when shinobi's constantly fight? Obito awakened sharingan just to protect his friend, likewise naruto, so as long as fighting is going on, the uchiha’s awakening their sharingan is a must, and sarada’s case which is a different case also further proves its super easy to gain the sharingan, but ofcoarse I know you know this

Uchiha Clan is on the verge of extinction with Sasuke and Salada the only ones with a Sharigan,the wood boys clones with the Sharigan have a better chance to revive the Clan all they have to do is each take on one Human female and mate.Their more Hyuga’s,and other members of other clans alive in large numbers and the strongest Uchiha Sasuke got force to surrender by one Uzumaki in Sasuke own words”I GIVE UP” to Naruto Uzumaki who change two Uchiha’s in Obito and Sasuke and help defeat Madara. Uchiha Massacre proved that no Clan is invisible.

 

[Uchihakil]

Genjutsu = Using the user chakra to match and control the chakra flow until it hit to your nerves system in your head then control your action or your vision.
Sharingan user is better than average ninja in genjutsu cause Sharingan allow the user to see the chakra in colour, so they will know more about the chakra flow within the body of the victim - not as detailed as byakugan.
To break the genjutsu the victim must disrupt the chakra flow by their skill.

Hyuga has byakugan to see everything, includes chakra point, chakra wave/flow.
Hyuga bloodline limits allow them to expel every chakra within their body to all of their tenketsu - in other words they control their own chakra flow at their free will.

Back to genjutsu topic and how normal ninja able to put genjutsu in other ninja. The answer is tenketsu. Unlike hyuga, even high level ninja can only release chakra on their hand or their feet - which mean a normal ninja can only control/defence their chakra flow from those tenketsu (only if they know the chakra from enemy is going to match theirs) but are invulnerable to other tenketsu.

Here with all the evidents from Kishi, we know that being Hyuga :
You can see the chakra from the enemy and when they are casting genjutsu
When and where opponents chakra for genjutsu is going to match their chakra flow
You can expel your chakra flow to any tenketsu within your body and release to counter incomming chakra from kyubii, weapons....
At worst possible that if chakra for genjutsu is too strong and you expel your chakra in same time to block or unmatch the flow, just like Kuybii chakra clash will result in pushing you away.

One exception that rule all out / destroy all the defense is IT. The genjutsu has level of god chakra in scale of planet. If IT is only one direction, Hyuga can still make the flow within their tenketsu unmatch to the chakra from genjutsu, but unfortunately they will be expeled from earth :bdpf:
But IT is all direction (thanks to the moon) and working simultaneously all around the target to match the chakra flow for a quite of time, mean Hyuga dont have that kind level of chakra to defense them from the god chakra.

Not really, kotoamatsukami puts one in genjutsu without them knowing, tsukiyomi happens in a second, so having time to break out of it is impossible, on top of itachi been able to cast a genjutsu that Ao stated to be undetectable by even the sensory squad including him (who posses a byakugan)

 

[Aznkidd]

Not really, kotoamatsukami puts one in genjutsu without them knowing, tsukiyomi happens in a second, so having time to break out of it is impossible, on top of itachi been able to cast a genjutsu that Ao stated to be undetectable by even the sensory squad including him (who posses a byakugan)

I answered you in good manner, even put all kind of evident that can be found within the manga and databook, so you dont have to flip it again. I was expecting you to answer in same manner and put some thought to it. But i was wrong, expect an Uchiha fan to answer you with solid evident is kinda "fan fic".

First of all you start to spew out your bias opinion without anything to back it up and then just claim as it has to be that way.
You jump from the fact that Byakugan user can detect all kind of incoming chakra.
You skip out the fact that Ao used byakugan after the genjutsu being casted
Your lacking of knowlegde in Tsukiyomi and genjutsu in general. It has to be hit the nerves first before it can taken place in the victim mind, which is 2-3 second. All you have been spewing out is that only once the chakra hit the target nerves, when Hyuga with byakugan activated is already on defensive and ready to guard their tenketsu.
You skip the fact that Ao only have 1 byakugan and he doesnt have Hyuga bloodline limit to guard himself from all tenketsu.

So this is harsh words for you : Go and read the manga again, your level of manga is below average.

 

[Nick01]

Nice fanfic.

 

[Uchihakil]

I answered you in good manner, even put all kind of evident that can be found within the manga and databook, so you dont have to flip it again. I was expecting you to answer in same manner and put some thought to it. But i was wrong, expect an Uchiha fan to answer you with solid evident is kinda "fan fic".

First of all you start to spew out your bias opinion without anything to back it up and then just claim as it has to be that way.
You jump from the fact that Byakugan user can detect all kind of incoming chakra.
You skip out the fact that Ao used byakugan after the genjutsu being casted
Your lacking of knowlegde in Tsukiyomi and genjutsu in general. It has to be hit the nerves first before it can taken place in the victim mind, which is 2-3 second. All you have been spewing out is that only once the chakra hit the target nerves, when Hyuga with byakugan activated is already on defensive and ready to guard their tenketsu.
You skip the fact that Ao only have 1 byakugan and he doesnt have Hyuga bloodline limit to guard himself from all tenketsu.

So this is harsh words for you : Go and read the manga again, your level of manga is below average.

So basically your're saying they won't get caught coz they will be guarding their chakra system and not let any outside chakra evade the system?

 

[Dantee]

I answered you in good manner, even put all kind of evident that can be found within the manga and databook, so you dont have to flip it again. I was expecting you to answer in same manner and put some thought to it. But i was wrong, expect an Uchiha fan to answer you with solid evident is kinda "fan fic".

First of all you start to spew out your bias opinion without anything to back it up and then just claim as it has to be that way.
You jump from the fact that Byakugan user can detect all kind of incoming chakra.
You skip out the fact that Ao used byakugan after the genjutsu being casted
Your lacking of knowlegde in Tsukiyomi and genjutsu in general. It has to be hit the nerves first before it can taken place in the victim mind, which is 2-3 second. All you have been spewing out is that only once the chakra hit the target nerves, when Hyuga with byakugan activated is already on defensive and ready to guard their tenketsu.
You skip the fact that Ao only have 1 byakugan and he doesnt have Hyuga bloodline limit to guard himself from all tenketsu.

So this is harsh words for you : Go and read the manga again, your level of manga is below average.

Tenketsu doesn't stop them from getting raped by genjutsu. :lol:

 

[chaos control]

Hyuuga is nothing infront of Uchiha.

They're nothing in front of the strongest Uchihas , but against 2 or 3 tomoe fodder Uchihas they stand a chance.