America's newest religon

[slimreaper]

you complain about segregation, yet, here you are condoning it to create some political statement to go against the grain

this defeats the purpose of your position

I never complained about segregation. Given my stance on equality, I believe it's necessary for greater harmony honestly.

There is no hypocrisy in taking the position I take. IF i'm powerless to prevent others from advancing their own personal agendas, my only viable alternatives are to support their cause or espouse my own

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I never complained about segregation. Given my stance on equality, I believe it's necessary for greater harmony honestly.

There is no hypocrisy in taking the position I take. IF i'm powerless to prevent others from advancing their own personal agendas, my only viable alternatives are to support their cause or espouse my own

Honestly, if you try to use an approach that doesn't attack equality but only uses common sense, you'd be far more successful. If your approach is gonna paint you as a racist to other members you might as well save your time.

 

[slimreaper]

Honestly, if you try to use an approach that doesn't attack equality but only uses common sense, you'd be far more successful. If your approach is gonna paint you as a racist to other members you might as well save your time.

i have to attack equality because belief in equality is the justification of the propaganda they spill

 

[Punk Hazard]

i have to attack equality because belief in equality is the justification of the propaganda they spill

Or you could attack the propaganda and show how the belief in equality doesn't actually justify their radical expressions.

The same way you don't have to attack Islam to show why ISIS' beliefs are wrong, just point out how their beliefs conflict with Islam. Or religion as a whole.

 

[slimreaper]

Or you could attack the propaganda and show how the belief in equality doesn't actually justify their radical expressions.

The same way you don't have to attack Islam to show why ISIS' beliefs are wrong, just point out how their beliefs conflict with Islam. Or religion as a whole.

I do both on this sight.

The difference is no one believes what you're saying with regards to these topics unless presented in a particular way

 

[Punk Hazard]

I do both on this sight.

Way to miss the point of my post. Attacking equality is stupid.

 

[slimreaper]

Way to miss the point of my post. Attacking equality is stupid.

is it? The basis of all my life's troubles stem from the false belief that if we could somehow get relative equality of opportunity then we would get equality of results. neither or anything close to a resemblance of them exists in this world, yet are talked about(and we make legislature) as if they are possible


The next response is usually "so we just stop trying?"


Yes. IF equality of opportunity mattered at all then married black males wouldn't make almost double what un married black males make. Yet people are sold that I am the enemy(my people) because it gains votes

 

[Akаsh]

well you cant get equality by arguing over it on an anime/manga forum, thats forsure :sdo:

 

[slimreaper]

well you cant get equality by arguing over it on an anime/manga forum, thats forsure :sdo:

Equality isn't real so it doesn't matter

 

[ZK]

is it? The basis of all my life's troubles stem from the false belief that if we could somehow get relative equality of opportunity then we would get equality of results. neither or anything close to a resemblance of them exists in this world, yet are talked about(and we make legislature) as if they are possible


The next response is usually "so we just stop trying?"


Yes. IF equality of opportunity mattered at all then married black males wouldn't make almost double what un married black males make. Yet people are sold that I am the enemy(my people) because it gains votes

You're not actually claiming that it's because they're married that these men make more than their unmarried counterparts, are you?

And equality of opportunity matters a lot. It's worked wonders in Northern Europe and created some of the most happy, equal and prosperous places in the world there. The Nordic countries are contemporary examples of equality of opportunity that works, has worked and will continue to work.

 

[slimreaper]

You're not actually claiming that it's because they're married that these men make more than their unmarried counterparts, are you?

And equality of opportunity matters a lot. It's worked wonders in Northern Europe and created some of the most happy, equal and prosperous places in the world there. The Nordic countries are contemporary examples of equality of opportunity that works, has worked and will continue to work.

What other explanation do you have?


you can't compare the homogeneous nordic countries whose average population is the size of a US state to the ethnically diverse united states

You must be registered for see links

 

[Scooby Doo]

What other explanation do you have?

I don't mean to butt in as I haven't followed the thread, but wait a min...do you have statistics to show that these men started to make more money after they got married? (Which btw still wouldn't necessarily mean a cause-effect relation, so lets not make the post hoc fallacy).

But I'd expect it's exactly because these men make more, that they can afford to get married and start a family.

 

[slimreaper]

I don't mean to butt in as I haven't followed the thread, but wait a min...do you have statistics to show that these men started to make more money after they got married? (Which btw still wouldn't necessarily mean a cause-effect relation, so lets not make the post hoc fallacy).

But I'd expect it's exactly because these men make more, that they can afford to get married and start a family.

what? anyone can get married regardless of money. Now whether poor blacks tend to get married less I don't know but would surmise is true due to the negative effects of welfare on marriage

 

[Scooby Doo]

what? anyone can get married regardless of money.

So having a wedding with guests and raising a baby doesn't cost money there?

Now whether poor blacks tend to get married less I don't know but would surmise is true due to the negative effects of welfare on marriage

And if poor blacks tend to get married less, and wealthier blacks tend to get married more, then what did you mean by...what was your point by saying that married blacks make more money?

 

[slimreaper]

So having a wedding with guests and raising a baby doesn't cost money there?


And if poor blacks tend to get married less, and wealthier blacks tend to get married more, then what did you mean by...what was your point by saying that married blacks make more money?

1. You're assuming kids... and My parents got married in a courthouse in South Carolina. It cost them the price of the license.


2. Married black men tend to make more than single white men as well. There are obvious benefits to marriage financially

 

[heiwasozo]

Sometimes in the grand scheme of things people can forget that misguided ignorance and a lack of human spirit leads to what we have here; a sad case of stupidity. When did it move from ignorance to stupidity?

The moment this person, or whatever it is, decided to substantiate scientific research for the thought that he or someone similar to him was better than someone else. The notion that scientific research can prove one races ability over another is what caused the Holocaust, slavery and a other slough of stains in human history. Because of this, all intelligently reasonable creatures know that this cannot be course that leads to success. Arguing any differently is barbaric.


I'm not even going to see what is responded to this, but I will say one last thing: He is entitled to his own opinion and should be respected with such a truth, even if it means giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[slimreaper]

Sometimes in the grand scheme of things people can forget that misguided ignorance and a lack of human spirit leads to what we have here; a sad case of stupidity. When did it move from ignorance to stupidity?

The moment this person, or whatever it is, decided to substantiate scientific research for the thought that he or someone similar to him was better than someone else. The notion that scientific research can prove one races ability over another is what caused the Holocaust, slavery and a other slough of stains in human history. Because of this, all intelligently reasonable creatures know that this cannot be course that leads to success. Arguing any differently is barbaric.


I'm not even going to see what is responded to this, but I will say one last thing: He is entitled to his own opinion and should be respected with such a truth, even if it means giving him the benefit of the doubt.

scientific research prove im different not better. I;ve state my race is by in large better at some things and worse at others

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

scientific research prove im different not better. I;ve state my race is by in large better at some things and worse at others

I guess I have to ask again since it seems like we're back to the start. If society accepted equality as fake, what changes do you expect to see? What laws should be different knowing there is no equality? How does believing that equality is fake better society?

 

[slimreaper]

I guess I have to ask again since it seems like we're back to the start. If society accepted equality as fake, what changes do you expect to see? What laws should be different knowing there is no equality? How does believing that equality is fake better society?

I want to see an end to the groups who peddle equality as a means to steal for their people. What better way than to disprove their core premise?

I would also think segregation is good for all

"“For all the woes of segregation, there were some good things to come out of it,” Cosby and Poussaint write. “One was that it forced us to take care of ourselves. When restaurants, laundries, hotels, theaters, groceries, and clothing stores were segregated, black people opened and ran their own. Black life insurance companies and banks thrived, as well as black funeral homes … Such successes provided jobs and strength to black economic well-being. They also gave black people that gratifying sense of an interdependent community.” Although the authors take pains to put some distance between themselves and the Nation of Islam, they approvingly quote one of its ministers who spoke at a call-out in Compton, California: “I went to Koreatown today and I met with the Korean merchants,” the minister told the crowd. “I love them. You know why? They got a place called what? Koreatown. When I left them, I went to Chinatown. They got a place called what? Chinatown. Where is your town?”"

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I want to see an end to the groups who peddle equality as a means to steal for their people. What better way than to disprove their core premise?

I would also think segregation is good for all

"“For all the woes of segregation, there were some good things to come out of it,” Cosby and Poussaint write. “One was that it forced us to take care of ourselves. When restaurants, laundries, hotels, theaters, groceries, and clothing stores were segregated, black people opened and ran their own. Black life insurance companies and banks thrived, as well as black funeral homes … Such successes provided jobs and strength to black economic well-being. They also gave black people that gratifying sense of an interdependent community.” Although the authors take pains to put some distance between themselves and the Nation of Islam, they approvingly quote one of its ministers who spoke at a call-out in Compton, California: “I went to Koreatown today and I met with the Korean merchants,” the minister told the crowd. “I love them. You know why? They got a place called what? Koreatown. When I left them, I went to Chinatown. They got a place called what? Chinatown. Where is your town?”"

Those people aren't even using equality right, they're using the word hypocritically. To me, equality means everyone has the opportunity to succeed regardless of race and gender. America has done a good job at that so far. You can't deny that premise to the people of America as it really doesn't make sense to.

You can prove their hypocrisy but all you're doing right now is fighting fire with fire.

Personally, I think segregation is horrible. It gives up on humanity and proves that we can't look past skin color. It doesn't create harmony, in fact all it does is create hostility.