Rikudou Madara Actually Loses Pretty Bad Against NaruSaku

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Actually, it's not even that. You see him jumping away in the lower left panel, so he's not doing a substitution jutsu in the manner described at the start. He's just running away and leaving the Limbo clone to take the attack.

Ok, good progression, now you know it's not substitution because you-just realized that it will make him sound even more OP than what you already don't want him to be, lol nice job with being able to realize that you're digging your own hole man.



The clone isn't inside his body and so he can't "leave" it to take the attack, the very fact that it is there and not else where suggests that he switches his body with it. Unless of course you're suggesting that limbo clone was fast enough to run their in millisecond before the contact
 
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Ok, good progression, now you know it's not substitution because you-just realized that it will make him sound even more OP than what you already don't want him to be, lol nice job with being able to realize that you're digging your own hole man.



The clone isn't inside his body and so he can't "leave" it to take the attack, the very fact that it is there and not else where suggests that he switches his body with it. Unless of course you're suggesting that limbo clone was fast enough to run their in millisecond before the contact

The Limbo clone was not active prior to Naruto and Sasuke's attack. I am saying that "Limbo Switch" as some people call it, it not just madara magically teleporting with a Limbo clone. It is him activating the limbo clone to take an attack for him, then running away. It's still a substitution, even if it's not in the way described there.

(Actually, how come substitution can exist? Why couldn't Sakura massacre the sound ninjas in the forest of death, if she could so often use substitution. She's clearly faster than them. Feel free to ignore this)
 

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Yup NaruSasu would have pratically destroyed JJ Madara. Madara doesn't have a counter for Ameno and TBBRS would be overkill for Madara. His Limbo clones are pretty weak considering the clones lost to Naruto's shadow clones with Taijutsu which says that Madara was never durable.

Some people cant read the Manga but you cant even understand the mangascans without the text.

1 eyed Madara with 1 Limbo clone already pushed the real Naruto back. 4 Limbo clones destroyed Naruto's clones.
Limbo's where around when Naruto and Sasuke were hiding in Susanoo from MT, Naruto's clones where fodderized there was no sign of Naruto's clones.

Limbo is Overpowered.

And Lmao, Madara already countered Ameno and stopped already a better tech than TBBRS with CT

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The Limbo clone was not active prior to Naruto and Sasuke's attack. I am saying that "Limbo Switch" as some people call it, it not just madara magically teleporting with a Limbo clone. It is him activating the limbo clone to take an attack for him, then running away. It's still a substitution, even if it's not in the way described there.

sub·sti·tu·tion
ˌsəbstiˈt(y)o͞oSH(ə)n/
noun
the action of replacing someone or something with another person or thing.
"the substitution of pediatricians for grandmothers in guiding baby care"
synonyms: exchange, change; More


switch
swiCH/Submit
noun

1.
change the position, direction, or focus of


Again, let me say it as slowly and nicely as I can, Did madara SWITCH with his limbo or not?

Limbo switch is not ameno, nor does it work that way. people call it switch because madara changes places with his clone and not because him poping out out of nowwhere like minato. And no, it can't be regular substitution because even after he is hit, switch is still possible during the process of the move taking effect
(Actually, how come substitution can exist? Why couldn't Sakura massacre the sound ninjas in the forest of death, if she could so often use substitution. She's clearly faster than them. Feel free to ignore this)

you are right, she used it twice and could hvae done third time as suggested by zaku but it became predictable because she spammed it. Still speed is a direct factor for the justsu so as for why she didn't blitz, I guess because it diffcult to do so against three opponents together to work.
 
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i be seeing a lot "if Naruto did this" or "if Sasuke did that", but the truth is that neither one of them did anything to actually hurt him either other than the 1 RS Naruto got on him. If Naruto and Sasuke was so capable of destroying him that easily, then undoing MT should've never been an issue. They literally didn't touch the guy once when he got his other eye back.

The thing some ppl fail to realize or are too busy hating/overblowing facts to realize, is that fighting Madara in his JJ form was about as difficult for them as it was for Madara taking them on with those powerups with 1 eye. If you're going to bring up stuff that the 2 of them did after Madara was out of the picture, then bring up stuff Madara probably would've/could've done if Black Zetsu didn't interrupt. At least that way you'd look less like a hypocrite for perpetuating the wank despite complaining about how it needs to stop.

This.
These people are just butthurt that Madara was made so OP. It seems to be too hard to understand for some, that Madara never went all-out as a Juubi-Jin and that his second eye gives him so much more power, which he couldn't use because Kishimoto realy fuqed up as an author there.
 

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Don't be an idiot man, read what the thread is about and the scenario that OP's has provided

I read the thread and OP is right, Naruto and Sasuke had no trouble facing JJ Madara, all he could do was spam Rinnegan feats and that won't work against them.
 

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I read the thread and OP is right, Naruto and Sasuke had no trouble facing JJ Madara, all he could do was spam Rinnegan feats and that won't work against them.

First Off I can count on my hands the amount of times madara made contact with them after their power ups which is 1. (Limbo hit naruto once)

If Sasuke Use Ameno On Madara like this



and time it just to the point where Madara would get hit by this




Madara would pretty much go through an extraction and be left with the gedo which immbolizes him. so essentially he'll look like this
Where does it say that? go ahead show me.
 

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sub·sti·tu·tion
ˌsəbstiˈt(y)o͞oSH(ə)n/
noun
the action of replacing someone or something with another person or thing.
"the substitution of pediatricians for grandmothers in guiding baby care"
synonyms: exchange, change; More


switch
swiCH/Submit
noun

1.
change the position, direction, or focus of


Again, let me say it as slowly and nicely as I can, Did madara SWITCH with his limbo or not?

Limbo switch is not ameno, nor does it work that way. people call it switch because madara changes places with his clone and not because him poping out out of nowwhere like minato. And no, it can't be regular substitution because even after he is hit, switch is still possible during the process of the move taking effect

Wait, are we arguing terminology now? As opposed to the techniques actual use in battle. Because if so, then goodbye. Madara avoids an attack by leaving a limbo clone to take the hit. Call it Limbo Switch or Substitution, or whatever you want, because it makes no difference.
 

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Yeah, Sasuke alone would've given Madara a good spanking. :sdo:
 

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Some people cant read the Manga but you cant even understand the mangascans without the text.

1 eyed Madara with 1 Limbo clone already pushed the real Naruto back.

That's not actually true considering RSM Naruto had to contend with both Juubidara and his Limbo Clone and Naruto himself can't see his opponent which hinders his reflexes somewhat against it.

4 Limbo clones destroyed Naruto's clones.
Limbo's where around when Naruto and Sasuke were hiding in Susanoo from MT, Naruto's clones where fodderized there was no sign of Naruto's clones.

Maybe because MT solo'd Naruto's clones. :sdo:

Or possibly the fact that Naruto's clones would be dispersed in 1 hit whereas Madara's Limbo clones do not have that sort of limitation. Being equal in power doesn't mean you won't land blows on your opponent and Limbo clones have a significant advantage in the fact that the only way to truly defeat them is by sealing them.

Limbo is Overpowered.

Juubidara hesitated using it on Obito even though he was far more powerful than any of the group combined.

And Lmao, Madara already countered Ameno and stopped already a better tech than TBBRS with CT

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Madara couldn't even counter Sasuke's normal speed. :sdo:

C'mon, Naruto and Sasuke solo his ass.
 

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PS : He can't use PS because Hagoromo's Rinnegan doesn't have Sharingan abilties, he lost Indra's KKG
even if you want to exclude the times where he used his PS as an undead person, he was seen using the Sharingan's precog and chakra detection abilities the whole time during his last encounter against Gai.

Madara still had a bond with other Indra transmigrates to where he could use their eyes, otherwise it wouldn't have been thrown out there on multiple occasions that Madara could've taken and used Sasuke's eyes. So no, awakening a Rinnegan didn't change those 2 things at all.
 
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Madara awakened byakugan before dying for the second time...
 

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No this can be easily countered by susano activation, chakra arms or limbo like in canon .
 

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Once again I never see any response to 2 and 3 eyed Madara always the Madara not at full power with one eye after fighting 8 gates Gai minato gaara and kakashi
 

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Once again I never see any response to 2 and 3 eyed Madara always the Madara not at full power with one eye after fighting 8 gates Gai minato gaara and kakashi

Exactly,when you now bring it up,they'll start mention black zetsu stab.
 

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First Off I can count on my hands the amount of times madara made contact with them after their power ups which is 1. (Limbo hit naruto once)

If Sasuke Use Ameno On Madara like this

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and time it just to the point where Madara would get hit by this

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Madara would pretty much go through an extraction and be left with the gedo which immbolizes him. so essentially he'll look like this
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You’re using the wrong Definition NaruSaku is Naruto and Sakura a one time fake believe that Naruto and Sakura would end up as lovers by a small very vocal minority.
 

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You’re using the wrong Definition NaruSaku is Naruto and Sakura a one time fake believe that Naruto and Sakura would end up as lovers by a small very vocal minority.
Something is really wrong with you.
 

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Something is really wrong with you.
That is the definition of NaruSaku in Manga dictionaries people who supported a union for Naruto and Sakura it’s only ben a year sines it ended got Alzheimer at a young age?
 
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