When all is said and done.

When I die..

  • My soul will be judged and lead to bliss (Heaven) or damnation (Hell) - Theist theory

    Votes: 8 44.4%
  • I will be randomly sent to Heaven or Hell, no matter what I did in life - Somewhat Protestant theory

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Don't be silly: when one is dead, he's dead. Deal with it - Positivist theory

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • Who knows? To think about it now is pointless - Agnostic theory

    Votes: 4 22.2%
  • I through my actions, so if I accomplish something immortal, I'd be "immortal"

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I'll not die, since science will realize something that makes people immortal - Futuristic theory

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I will be one with the absoluteness of the Universe - Pantheistic theory

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Afterlife is an invention made to dissuase us from taking what we desrve in the only real life

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • I shall be a guide for my people - Tribal theory

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 16.7%

  • Total voters
    18

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I think there is a strong possibility of an afterlife, if you look at most culture's all around the world most, if not all mention an afterlife this going back to ancient times. Cultures that had no contact with each other were all saying the same thing, that there is life after death. Not to mention the countless people that have had near death experiences, all of them experiencing the same thing. If there is no afterlife then does that mean we have no souls? Or Are we jus a lump of muscle located in our heads.
 

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I think there is a strong possibility of an afterlife, if you look at most culture's all around the world most, if not all mention an afterlife this going back to ancient times. Cultures that had no contact with each other were all saying the same thing, that there is life after death. Not to mention the countless people that have had near death experiences, all of them experiencing the same thing. If there is no afterlife then does that mean we have no souls? Or Are we jus a lump of muscle located in our heads.
If there isn't an Afterlife, for someone it could even mean that life has no value and there isn't any reason to do good things, since nobody would reward them after
 

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Well that depends on the person, if you doing good things to be rewarded then you would really feel crappy
One does good things because it's right to do so and his feelings tell him to do so, but let's say that a little reward here and there would work :D
just kidding ahah don't think bad of me
 

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If there isn't an Afterlife, for someone it could even mean that life has no value and there isn't any reason to do good things, since nobody would reward them after
Why does life require an afterlife to have a purpose? Surely the Afterlife would have no purpose without an AfterAfterlife by that logic.

If "Infinite Rewards" are the only thing that can motivate you to be nice, then you are doing something wrong.
 

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The possibility of the existence of an afterlife is a question that everyone asks himself during his life. Do you think that there will be something "after", or we're just gonna sleep forever?
This is not necessarily a religious thread.
I don't care, why don't everyone just shut up about it and find out when they die?
Live while you're alive, you're going to know eventually whether or not there is an afterlife like everyone who have gone before you.
 

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Why does life require an afterlife to have a purpose? Surely the Afterlife would have no purpose without an AfterAfterlife by that logic.

If "Infinite Rewards" are the only thing that can motivate you to be nice, then you are doing something wrong.
Obviously I wasn't speaking about myself, but if you ask, a lot of Nihilist people use it as one of the best motivations for their approach to life
 

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Why does life require an afterlife to have a purpose?
I believe I've already explained this, wich leads me to conclude that you ignored it for whatever reason.

Surely the Afterlife would have no purpose without an AfterAfterlife by that logic.
Not quite.

Afterlife, by its very nature, is the ultimate goal/point of our existence. It does not require any further point as it on its own is the fulfillment of our destiny rather than a temporary state such as our existence here. Asking for the point of afterlife is like demanding ultimate purpose for something that is, on its own, the ultimate purpose.

If "Infinite Rewards" are the only thing that can motivate you to be nice, then you are doing something wrong.
I don't see what this has to do with the question at hand.
 

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I believe I've already explained this, wich leads me to conclude that you ignored it for whatever reason.
...This is your first post on this thread. Forgive me for only being able to remember the personality traits of two base members at a time.



Not quite.

Afterlife, by its very nature, is the ultimate goal/point of our existence. It does not require any further point as it on its own is the fulfillment of our destiny rather than a temporary state such as our existence here. Asking for the point of afterlife is like demanding ultimate purpose for something that is, on its own, the ultimate purpose.
Doesn't an eternal afterlife render a finite life pointless then? What's approximately 70 years next to infinity? So the afterlife you want to give some meaning to life actually renders life pointless. Or the universe is run on a terrible justice system.
I don't see what this has to do with the question at hand.
Because deadlift, the person i was actually replying too, said this
If there isn't an Afterlife, for someone it could even mean that life has no value and there isn't any reason to do good things, since nobody would reward them after
That is very much stating that Afterlife is the only motivation to do good. So my point was valid. In other words:

Your Creepy Stalker said:
I believe I've already explained this, wich leads me to conclude that you ignored it for whatever reason.
 

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...This is your first post on this thread. Forgive me for only being able to remember the personality traits of two base members at a time.
You don't have to apologize. Not condemning you or anything. And I was reffering to our conversation back in Hawker's thread. I can remind you further if you need it.

Doesn't an eternal afterlife render a finite life pointless then? What's approximately 70 years next to infinity? So the afterlife you want to give some meaning to life actually renders life pointless. Or the universe is run on a terrible justice system.
Depends on what afterlife we're talking about. Afterlife in a broad context of Judeo-Christian religions actually puts an emphasis on this life through wich we create ourselves a path to the afterlife that follows. In no way does it disregard life, but actually puts an emphasis on it, as through it we are getting to afterlife.

I don't see how it renders it pointless.

And what do you mean when you say the universe runs on a terrible justice system?

Because deadlift, the person i was actually replying too, said this
If there isn't an Afterlife, for someone it could even mean that life has no value and there isn't any reason to do good things, since nobody would reward them after
That is very much stating that Afterlife is the only motivation to do good. So my point was valid. In other words:
He had a meaningful few ifs in there, as in a hypothetical person in a hypothetical scenario. He pointed this out himself tough.
 

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Because deadlift, the person i was actually replying too, said this
If there isn't an Afterlife, for someone it could even mean that life has no value and there isn't any reason to do good things, since nobody would reward them after
That is very much stating that Afterlife is the only motivation to do good. So my point was valid. In other words:
I said it because there's actually people who live this way, as I made the example of some Nihilists, in the previous reply I made to you. No intention to claim it's true for everyone, or that all those who don't believe in an Afterlife lose the necessary motivation to keep living.
Neither I was saying that all those who believe in Afterlife think "oh shit, it's so boring to do good things, I just keep doing it 'cause I will be rewarded after I die". I actually never knew anyone who reasons this way. In fact, one does good things because of his feelings and because he knows that it's right to act this way, so whatever are his beliefs about Afterlife, religion or whatsoever, they indeed switch on second plan.

He had a meaningful few ifs in there, as in a hypothetical person in a hypothetical scenario. He pointed this out himself tough.
It was no more than an example I was doing ;)
 

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You don't have to apologize. Not condemning you or anything. And I was reffering to our conversation back in Hawker's thread. I can remind you further if you need it.



Depends on what afterlife we're talking about. Afterlife in a broad context of Judeo-Christian religions actually puts an emphasis on this life through wich we create ourselves a path to the afterlife that follows. In no way does it disregard life, but actually puts an emphasis on it, as through it we are getting to afterlife.

I don't see how it renders it pointless.

And what do you mean when you say the universe runs on a terrible justice system?



He had a meaningful few ifs in there, as in a hypothetical person in a hypothetical scenario. He pointed this out himself tough.
When you claim that a person lives for eternity after dying, then it automatically de emphasizes life. For the religious person, this life is only to be spent trying to attain benefits of alleged after life, and not working to improve, and understand all that this life itself entails. Its diminishing and trivializing life implicitly by holding such views.
Because every religion has their own views on how to attain heaven, which actions are allowed and which aren't, with no clue on what this world actually is, or how to go about understanding and improving it.
 

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When we die, our brain receives no stimuli and turns off, thus our minds turns off as the mind is the product of the brain, our bodies decompose and return to the Earth, and eventually, our matter is used in the creation of new stars, planets, and creatures. Circle of the Universe.
 
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