ms itachi vs 1 ms obito

[LoZelda101]

Location: uchiha hideout

Intent: kill

Intel: itachi knows how kamui works

Conditions: itachi has full eyesight and is healthy.

Restrictions: saying "kamui gg" or "itachi solos"

Scenario 2: just taijutsu but obito can still use intangibility

tbh i say itachi wins scenario 1 med diff at best and wins scenario 2 low diff.

1. itachi's gen > kamui

2. obito > itachi

 

[EZQ]

-He has intel on Kamui.
-Obito's position when he phases is relative to his position in the real world. So if a clone gets warped and Itachi hits Obito while he's still at that spot the clone would kill obito from the other side. It's actually very likely since Itachi would literally be warped right where Obito decides to phase as long as Obito doesn't get the chance to move, which he won't.

And it's restriction doesn't matter. In fact, it being restricted gives Itachi a better chance of winning due to Izanami. If Obito uses Izanagi and Itachi sets up Izanami, which he will, it's a an instant one shot.

1- Didn't read about knowledge about kamui

2- You mean izanagi unrestricted? Yeah anyways if Obito could activate it and warp the real Itachi away before itachi notices it was activated then he could still win. Itachi clearly said to Sasuke "the preparations for Izanami are set" or something like that so obito has a small openning

I agree on Obito losing if he warps the clone

 

[KidGamer65]

1- Didn't read about knowledge about kamui

2- You mean izanagi unrestricted? Yeah anyways if Obito could activate it and warp the real Itachi away before itachi notices it was activated then he could still win. Itachi clearly said to Sasuke "the preparations for Izanami are set" or something like that so obito has a small openning

I agree on Obito losing if he warps the clone

Yeah, that's what I meant. Anyway that's not likely. Itachi has knowledge on Obito's jutsu, so no surprises occur here, and I've already explained why Obito isn't warping him any time soon.

 

[Uchihakil]

1 ms obito does'nt have outer path chains, plus if ama hits him and he uses izanagi, izanami will counter him, and he is doomed, itachi can summon crows to avoid getting warped from behind (as the crows won't allow obito to materialise) , with itachi's clone feint feats, he can fool obito into absorbing a clone or exploding clone, itachi wins high diff

 

[Scryed]

-He has intel on Kamui.
-Obito's position when he phases is relative to his position in the real world. So if a clone gets warped and Itachi hits Obito while he's still at that spot the clone would kill obito from the other side. It's actually very likely since Itachi would literally be warped right where Obito decides to phase as long as Obito doesn't get the chance to move, which he won't.

And it's restriction doesn't matter. In fact, it being restricted gives Itachi a better chance of winning due to Izanami. If Obito uses Izanagi and Itachi sets up Izanami, which he will, it's a an instant one shot.

Can't he eject the clones from his dimension? He has been shown to eject both people and projectiles from his dimension.

If Itachi uses clones and splits enough of his chakra with them for them to use Susanoo (even Ribcage Susanoo) then he's going to run out of chakra even faster if he plans to use have them all use Ribcage Susanoo to defend themselves from Bafukuu Ranbu.

 

[KidGamer65]

Can't he eject the clones from his dimension? He has been shown to eject both people and projectiles from his dimension.

If Itachi uses clones and splits enough of his chakra with them for them to use Susanoo (even Ribcage Susanoo) then he's going to run out of chakra even faster if he plans to use have them all use Ribcage Susanoo to defend themselves from Bafukuu Ranbu.

He can, but why would he eject if he thinks he's warped the real Itachi? Attrition doesn't matter if he can land this feint, which considering Kabuto fell for it, Obito is even more likely to fall for it.

 

[Haizaki]

Scenario 1, Obito most likely:

- Of course we can look at the fact that Itachi does have clones to use but there's also the fact that using things like Shadow clones(Explosive clones for example) requires a good amount of his chakra. Reasonable thing for him to use is crow clones which require the use of crows. However, these summonings

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have a limit

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which should mean the crows used to form that clone shouldn't last long in the battlefield leading to the eradication of those clones which are the main factors as they use less. If Obito plays smart, Itachi is left with the shadow clones and he can't use multiple of those or they won't even be able to use Susano'o which limits him to few of these and in the end prompts Itachi to save chakra as constant use of Susano'o eats a lot of chakra. All Obito needs to do is patiently wait for this moment.


- Obito can use hiding like a mole which makes things harder for Itachi as it's more effective to me. Kakashi pretty much fooled him with it but the main reason why the Sharingan won't be seeing Obito is based on the fact that he channels his chakra through the earth turning it into fine sand which means the Sharingan only sees Obito's chakra and not Obito since his chakra is everywhere. Obito can then grab

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and then even warp one easily rather than coming visible to warp which leaves him exposed as he'll grab them and easily warp before and intervention comes into play. He doesn't even need to play the going tangible and intangible game which leaves him exposed in both worlds.


- Kamui world can be a pain if you have 2 people attacking from both worlds but it's not hard even if he warps a clone. He just sets the flame formation(unless something stops him from being able to use this there which I don't know of) and trap them there from getting in his way while he goes to the real world. Plus what I stated regarding him not having to go tangible and intangible.

Eventually he catches the real Itachi either via outlasting or playing smart. Not to mention even if he doesn't use these strategies, he can just be in the real world and still pass through their attacks as he counters. They'll tire out from burning chakra leaving them opened for a backlash.

Scenario 2, LOL.

 

[EZQ]

Scenario 1, Obito most likely:

- Of course we can look at the fact that Itachi does have clones to use but there's also the fact that using things like Shadow clones(Explosive clones for example) requires a good amount of his chakra. Reasonable thing for him to use is crow clones which require the use of crows. However, these summonings

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have a limit

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which should mean the crows used to form that clone shouldn't last long in the battlefield leading to the eradication of those clones which are the main factors as they use less. If Obito plays smart, Itachi is left with the shadow clones and he can't use multiple of those or they won't even be able to use Susano'o which limits him to few of these and in the end prompts Itachi to save chakra as constant use of Susano'o eats a lot of chakra. All Obito needs to do is patiently wait for this moment.


- Obito can use hiding like a mole which makes things harder for Itachi as it's more effective to me. Kakashi pretty much fooled him with it but the main reason why the Sharingan won't be seeing Obito is based on the fact that he channels his chakra through the earth turning it into fine sand which means the Sharingan only sees Obito's chakra and not Obito since his chakra is everywhere. Obito can then grab

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and then even warp one easily rather than coming visible to warp which leaves him exposed as he'll grab them and easily warp before and intervention comes into play. He doesn't even need to play the going tangible and intangible game which leaves him exposed in both worlds.


- Kamui world can be a pain if you have 2 people attacking from both worlds but it's not hard even if he warps a clone. He just sets the flame formation(unless something stops him from being able to use this there which I don't know of) and trap them there from getting in his way while he goes to the real world. Plus what I stated regarding him not having to go tangible and intangible.

Eventually he catches the real Itachi either via outlasting or playing smart. Not to mention even if he doesn't use these strategies, he can just be in the real world and still pass through their attacks as he counters. They'll tire out from burning chakra leaving them opened for a backlash.

Scenario 2, LOL.

About hiding like a mole, sharingan doesn't see trough solid objects. It can't see Obito's chakra underground.

EMS was able to see chakra trough a thin rock. That's different from seeing trough layers of ground with MS or 3 tomoe.

 

[Haizaki]

About hiding like a mole, sharingan doesn't see trough solid objects. It can't see Obito's chakra underground.

EMS was able to see chakra trough a thin rock. That's different from seeing trough layers of ground with MS or 3 tomoe.

Oh had no idea. Still helps my point?

 

[EZQ]

Oh had no idea. Still helps my point?

Yes it does. Just wanted to point that out.

If itachi had seen all of Kakashi's chakra that was turning the ground into fine sand then he would at least noticed something weird was going on... but he didn't see jack shit.

 

[Warlocks]

ms itachi wins