KCM Naruto vs A and B

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Location: kage summit
intent:kill
intel:manga
conditions: this is kcm naruto when he his friends with kurama and is fresh, bee starts in V2 and A starts in V2
restrictions: BM for both naruto and bee


scanerio 2: bee can use bm


who wins and explain why
 

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Naruto should be able to take it relatively easily in S1. He was able to maintain 14 Clones during the course of a part of the war. So keeping up 3-4 will be easy.

Both of them end up catching an FRS. Naruto loses in S2 though
 

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Naruto wins S1. He's easily faster than Ay and he can block Ay's attacks. Any CQC with Naruto results in Ay getting a planetary Rasengan slammed into his chest, then he dies. B is like Ay, but he hits harder, is more durable. However he's slower. In straight CQC Naruto would get wrecked but if Naruto hits him with FRS he'd die too.

If they attack together, which they will, Naruto simply multi tasks using clones. Naruto dies in S2. Bijuu Hachimaki blows him away and then an immediate follow up Bijuu Dama turns him to ash while he's still soaring through the sky. If he wants to try FRS Bijuu Dama plows right through it.
 

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Naruto wins S1. He's easily faster than Ay and he can block Ay's attacks. Any CQC with Naruto results in Ay getting a planetary Rasengan slammed into his chest, then he dies. B is like Ay, but he hits harder, is more durable. However he's slower. In straight CQC Naruto would get wrecked but if Naruto hits him with FRS he'd die too.

If they attack together, which they will, Naruto simply multi tasks using clones. Naruto dies in S2. Bijuu Hachimaki blows him away and then an immediate follow up Bijuu Dama turns him to ash while he's still soaring through the sky. If he wants to try FRS Bijuu Dama plows right through it.

How does Naruto get wrecked by B in CQC? Itachi handled it fine and even blindsided him a few times, while Naruto kept up with same Itachi with no problems.

Naruto didn't do anything fancy either, wasn't using chakra arms or Rasengans just straight hand to hand.

Bee can't react to Naruto's Shunshin at all in Base either as all he saw was "A yellow Flash"
 

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How does Naruto get wrecked by B in CQC? Itachi handled it fine and even blindsided him a few times, while Naruto kept up with same Itachi with no problems.

Naruto didn't do anything fancy either, wasn't using chakra arms or Rasengans just straight hand to hand.

Bee can't react to Naruto's Shunshin at all in Base either as all he saw was "A yellow Flash"

Obviously wasn't talking about Base B. I was talking about V2 B.
 

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KCM Naruto at his best would defeat both Raikage and V2 Bee, but would ultimately lose in Scenario 2, but that depends on the distance.
 

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Obviously wasn't talking about Base B. I was talking about V2 B.

How does the jump improve anything? In the instances before before his chakra was absorbed Kisame handled him fine too. Any number or Rasengan variants allow him to parry any assault Bee tries to use
 

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How does the jump improve anything? In the instances before before his chakra was absorbed Kisame handled him fine too. Any number or Rasengan variants allow him to parry any assault Bee tries to use

Lol

1. Shouldn't have bothered mentioning Kisame, cause it's painfully obvious that he only survived because he can absorb chakra. If he didn't have that ability he wouldn't be dominating B in CQC, he wouldn't even be winning. He'd be getting overwhelmed and that's just V1.

2. Even w/ absorption Lariat put Kisame on his ass.

3. Naruto can't tank B's lariat in KCM, at least not without damage. Regular Rasengan is easily plowed through if B charges at him full power.

The only thing Naruto has over him is reaction and Shunshin speed, and the latter doesn't matter in a brawl. B is more durable and far stronger physically. Naruto isn't going to even do anything serious to him unless he uses FRS.
 

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Lol

1. Shouldn't have bothered mentioning Kisame, cause it's painfully obvious that he only survived because he can absorb chakra. If he didn't have that ability he wouldn't be dominating B in CQC, he wouldn't even be winning. He'd be getting overwhelmed and that's just V1.

2. Even w/ absorption Lariat put Kisame on his ass.

3. Naruto can't tank B's lariat in KCM, at least not without damage. Regular Rasengan is easily plowed through if B charges at him full power.

The only thing Naruto has over him is reaction and Shunshin speed, and the latter doesn't matter in a brawl. B is more durable and far stronger physically. Naruto isn't going to even do anything serious to him unless he uses FRS.

He parried him twice. Bee couldn't out maneuver him so he just tried to overpower him, in which case all Naruto needs to do is use Rasengan, regular Rasmegan doesn't matter since all he has to use is a stronger one
 

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He parried him twice. Bee couldn't out maneuver him so he just tried to overpower him, in which case all Naruto needs to do is use Rasengan, regular Rasmegan doesn't matter since all he has to use is a stronger one

Parrying him twice doesn't translate to handling him in CQC so this point doesn't matter.

And no stronger one he can use in CQC is going to damage B or overpower him so you barely have a viable way for Naruto to actually beat him in CQC here. :lol
 

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Parrying him twice doesn't translate to handling him in CQC so this point doesn't matter.

And no stronger one he can use in CQC is going to damage B or overpower him so you barely have a viable way for Naruto to actually beat him in CQC here. :lol

Parry ing him in CQC means Naruto does it, and easier. Any of his Rasengan above regular overpower any pysical strike Bee uses
 

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Naruto wins both.

Rasenshuriken is landing on bee before bee kills super fast+durable naruto with bijuudama. Once the first one lands, naruto can just fire more at him while he's down, or something stronger like a bijuudama rasengan or chou oodama rasenshuriken.

A kcm clone or two is more than enough for Ei since the only thing Ei can do is taijutsu, forcing him to at least clash with whatever rasengan naruto chooses.
 

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Parry ing him in CQC means Naruto does it, and easier. Any of his Rasengan above regular overpower any pysical strike Bee uses

He parried V1 B first of all, so for the second time now, you can stop mentioning Kisame now. I'm also going to wait for you to prove that any Rasengan he can reliably use in CQC will overpower V2 Lariat (1 tailed Lariat already almost obliterated the platform Taka fought B on and V2 plowed through Samehada and blew Kisame's chest out despite him being able to absorb chakra and despite him using Samehada as a shield) and I'll wait for you to prove that they'll hurt him.
 

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Naruto wins both.

Rasenshuriken is landing on bee before bee kills super fast+durable naruto with bijuudama. Once the first one lands, naruto can just fire more at him while he's down, or something stronger like a bijuudama rasengan or chou oodama rasenshuriken.

A kcm clone or two is more than enough for Ei since the only thing Ei can do is taijutsu, forcing him to at least clash with whatever rasengan naruto chooses.

your like the only person i know that doesnt underrate naruto and uses logic. and i agree naruto stomps both rounds. 3 clones for EI. while naruto and 10 other clones gangbang bee in both scenes.
 
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