Why do supposed "fans" hate Naruto?

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I just wanted it to end because for almost 2 years the story went absolutely nowhere. 102 chapters from the time Toby was revealed to be Obito and the end of the manga. Taking into account breaks where no chapters were released, we're talking around 2 1/2 years worth of chapter releases for a story that could (and should) have been concluded in a matter of months. That's why people wanted the manga to just end already. They were so invested in it that they couldn't stop reading but nothing happened 90% of the time. Almost every chapter that came out was a disappointment. Everybody wanted to see the final fight between Naruto and Sasuke, so what happens? We get 2 years of fighting various bad guys, first Obito then Madara then Kaguya, every 5 or 6 chapters someone got a powerup, and then, FINALLY, we get what we want...for 3 chapters. It was a huge let down and it was building up to be a huge let down and people didn't want it to be a huge let down so they kept calling for it to just end, but that's not what we got.
 
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those were the facts....and they were all true
How are they facts when I proved everything you said so far wrong? You are the most delusional idiot I have ever seen. You don't know the difference between fact and opinion (which is sad). I'd hope for your sake you do but were too stubborn and won't admit you are wrong.

Anyway since you have yet to Provide facts (because you can't) for your claim of dragon ball being bad because of its simplicity as that statement is entirely subjective and everyone with a normally functioning brain can see that easily except you apparently (guess you have mental problems) I'm done here. Provide facts for your debates next time and you wont be so easy to disprove.
 
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How are they facts when I proved everything you said so far wrong? You are the most delusional idiot I have ever seen. You don't know the difference between fact and opinion (which is sad). I'd hope for your sake you do but were too stubborn and won't admit you are wrong.

Anyway since you have yet to Provide facts (because you can't) for your claim of dragon ball being bad because of its simplicity as that statement is entirely subjective and everyone with a normally functioning brain can see that easily except you apparently (guess you have mental problems) I'm done here. Provide facts for your debates next time and you wont be so easy to disprove.
you've proved me right in every comment you've typed...the hell are you talking about?...

dragon ball has shitty fights FOR A FIGHTING SERIES...in terms of simplicity that alone causes it to be a shit manga...

throw in shit characters with a shit plot and you get SHIT...nice job of getting owned by me for the 100th time boy
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">So OP said he doesn't understand why people want it to end when he himself wanted it to end before. :sdo:</div>
 

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you've proved me right in every comment you've typed...the hell are you talking about?...

dragon ball has shitty fights FOR A FIGHTING SERIES...in terms of simplicity that alone causes it to be a shit manga...

throw in shit characters with a shit plot and you get SHIT...nice job of getting owned by me for the 100th time boy
Why is simplicity bad? Show me where you are getting these studies that prove this from?"Where the **** are you getting your evidence to determine if a fight scene is bad or not? Seriously show me!! Prove me wrong. You can't because that's all your opinion because its subjective. And don't bring up plot and characters since you know jack shit about good writing. Otherwise you wouldn't even be saying the plot and characters are shit. Characters aren't deep and complex even thought the writer wasn't trying to make a deep and complex story and characters in the first place.

What dumbass argument is that? Seriously you know nothing of good writing. Complexity isn't what makes good writing otherwise the matrix movies, which are uneseccarily complex to the point they cause the audience massive confusion and they begin to loose interest, would be the best written movies of all time. They aren't they aren't welll written at all for simple fact of their pretentiousness and over complexity.star wars trilogy was greatly written, and its very simple and basic.

And get over yourself you didn't own anyone. You only owned yourself by showing how much of a ****ing moron you are.
How the **** do you own anyone in a debate by saying shit is true with no evidence to back it up? How do you own anyone by tryng to say your opinion is fact.

You are saying a series is shit so that means its fact and everyone in the damn world has to agree right? Damn your stupid. You are a brick wall nothing gets through to your stubborn head. Your stupidity was amusing at first but know its genuinely just annoying.


Go on and live im your delusional world where your opinion is fact I'm done debating with a brick wall.
 

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So OP said he doesn't understand why people want it to end when he himself wanted it to end before. :sdo:
OP has also made it clear that he no longer wants it to end.

You peed your pants when you were young, but I"m not holding it against you still to this day am I?
 

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I actually don't mind "milking" more naruto as in it doesn't effect the main core of this story after chapter 700... People can choose to read it or stop it not like boruto generation is any essential to the story of "NARUTO" as his story has already ended. This is simpily a new era that explores more into the new generation which I'm not fond of any of these carbon copy characters unlike Part 1...


Anyway Im still gonna read Naruto since clearly I've been heavenly invested for a long ass time and also Boruto movie and Naruto the Last ended off a good note for me so why not.
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=20196706" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-20196706">Illuminater said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> OP has also made it clear that he no longer wants it to end.<br /> <br /> You peed your pants when you were young, but I&quot;m not holding it against you still to this day am I? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You pee your pants because you're not physically capable to do otherwise. You're now supposedly a sentient being capable of understanding preferences and the reasons behind them. Are you saying you had thr brain of a baby at the stage you wanted it to end? :Sparks:</div>
 

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Why is simplicity bad? Show me where you are getting these studies that prove this from?"Where the **** are you getting your evidence to determine if a fight scene is bad or not? Seriously show me!! Prove me wrong. You can't because that's all your opinion because its subjective. And don't bring up plot and characters since you know jack shit about good writing. Otherwise you wouldn't even be saying the plot and characters are shit. Characters aren't deep and complex even thought the writer wasn't trying to make a deep and complex story and characters in the first place.

What dumbass argument is that? Seriously you know nothing of good writing. Complexity isn't what makes good writing otherwise the matrix movies, which are uneseccarily complex to the point they cause the audience massive confusion and they begin to loose interest, would be the best written movies of all time. They aren't they aren't welll written at all for simple fact of their pretentiousness and over complexity.star wars trilogy was greatly written, and its very simple and basic.

And get over yourself you didn't own anyone. You only owned yourself by showing how much of a ****ing moron you are.
How the **** do you own anyone in a debate by saying shit is true with no evidence to back it up? How do you own anyone by tryng to say your opinion is fact.

You are saying a series is shit so that means its fact and everyone in the damn world has to agree right? Damn your stupid. You are a brick wall nothing gets through to your stubborn head. Your stupidity was amusing at first but know its genuinely just annoying.


Go on and live im your delusional world where your opinion is fact I'm done debating with a brick wall.
your first sentence proves how much of a massive retarded you are...cleary you cannot read...your first sentence automatically negates everything you typed...stop putting words in my comments boy...nice job owning yourself
 

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I personally consider myself a "true" fan since I have literally watched and read everything naruto. But I have to agree with some people that the series did become very inconsistent, shallow, and just plain idiotic after the pain arc. In terms of writting and plot Naruto was NEVER something above average but I can't deny that I've had some awsome memories with this series like back when I first witnessed the gara vs lee fight in chunin exams arc l, almost jumping out of my chair with excitement when naruto returned from sage mode training wearing his cloak reminiscent to jariaya,and hell even when sasuke unlocked mangekyo. I grew up watching this "mediocre" manga back, so I have an immense amount of love for it.That even said I do believe as a fan someone does have the right to be critical about the work they watch and yes this manga did have alot of flaws. I personally am looking forward to the future generations even if its milking the manga. I take this series for face value: a crazy ninja fantasy story with cool characters and awsome fights and thats all naruto needs to be for me. If I wanted amazing plot, deep moral themes, and good romance I'd just goread something else. People really shouldn't hate something that was written for entertainment purposes
 

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Now that I'm done dealing wth that brick wall.

Let me answers your question op.


I personally wanted Naruto to end sometime after the pain arc. Maybe two more arcs tops afterward. Reason js Narutos character has nowhere else to go after that arc point as he has already been acknowledged by every single villager in the leaf. His character him being an underdog trying to prove himself is complete at that point. But no he continued onward and His character as well as the whole story went downhill in quality till it hit rock bottom.

That's basically why for me I dont want to make a huge paragraph about it so a summary should be fine.
 

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Now that I'm done dealing wth that brick wall.

Let me answers your question op.


I personally wanted Naruto to end sometime after the pain arc. Maybe two more arcs tops afterward. Reason js Narutos character has nowhere else to go after that arc point as he has already been acknowledged by every single villager in the leaf. His character him being an underdog trying to prove himself is complete at that point. But no he continued onward and His character as well as the whole story went downhill in quality till it hit rock bottom.

That's basically why for me I dont want to make a huge paragraph about it so a summary should be fine.
it would have ended with massive plot holes if kishimoto listened to you (thank god you are irrelevant)
 

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it would have ended with massive plot holes if kishimoto listened to you (thank god you are irrelevant)

Looks like somebody is asshurt. So asshurt they need to reply to my post about my personal opinion on when the manga should have ended. Then say I'm irrelevant.

How sad.

Seriously **** off now we are done you have been obsessing over me for to long been replying to me for ****ing days!! I dont role that way homie. Go find some other man.
 
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Looks like somebody is asshurt. So asshurt they need to reply to my post about my personal opinion on when the manga should have ended. Then say I'm irrelevant.

How sad.

Seriously **** off now we are done you have been obsessing over me for to long been replying to me for ****ing days!! I dont role that way homie. Go find some other man.
and you claim you know good writing?...lololololololololololololololololololololol
 

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The true fans want Naruto to still be a respectable series by the end of it. I can tolerate milking but at least make it good milking, the series is being ruined.

People call Kishi a shitty writer but I thin Naruto up to 699 was amazing. The rest has been below average and it will most likely get worse.

Kishi said he's finally done with the series but it doesn't seem like that at all. Shonen Jump, Studio Pierrot, Viz, Kishi, whoever, are producing crap and using the characters of a great story to sell it.


I just want to see Kishi's new manga that he's working on. Hopefully, he's learned from Naruto and gives us a great manga.
 
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