DR Madara vs SM Hashirama

[Kunihi]

Location: VoTe
Mindset: to kill
Restrictions: limbo
Distance:5 km
Knowledge: full


S2: Hashi gets the second, third and fourth hokage, all alive.

 

[BLAZE]

Didn't it happen in canon and both got immobilized and hashi didn't use SS
so hashi wins

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Didn't it happen in canon and both got immobilized and hashi didn't use SS
so hashi wins

Madara was in edo tensei

 

[BLAZE]

Madara was in edo tensei

So was hashi
and limbo is restricted here

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

So was hashi
and limbo is restricted here

Double Rinnegan Madara alive with Rikudo Chakra >>>> Edo Madara. Madara wins.

 

[BLAZE]

Double Rinnegan Madara alive with Rikudo Chakra >>>> Edo Madara. Madara wins.

When did i denied it

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

When did i denied it

Didn't say that you did but the difference that Madara's has with his alive version and Hashirama with his own is not the same. Alive Double Rinnegan Madara has Rikudo chakra and that alone puts him above Hashi's League. Alive Hashirama is stronger than Edo but Madara is way stronger than his Edo-self thanks to his Rikudo chakra even without Limbo. What I am trying to say is that Madara's difference with his alive self is way way bigger than Hashi's.

 

[BLAZE]

Didn't say that you did but the difference that Madara's has with his alive version and Hashirama with his own is not the same.

No it is not

Alive Double Rinnegan Madara has Rikudo chakra

So does Edo Madara that why he has Rinnegan

and that alone puts him above Hashi's League. Alive Hashirama is stronger than Edo but Madara is way stronger than his Edo-self thanks to his Rikudo chakra even without Limbo.

One feat
Add the fact DR alive maddy canonically lacks Full Kurama as summon

 

[Uchihakil]

Madara, he basically has everything hashi has, and rinnegan, hashi is gonna lose

 

[Zee U]

Does Madara's Six Paths Power grant his PS superiority over Shinsuusenju? If yes, he wins. Otherwise Hashirama takes this.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

No it is not

So does Edo Madara that why he has Rinnegan
One feat
Add the fact DR alive maddy canonically lacks Full Kurama as summon

Edo Madara's Rinnegan was a fake one. He didn't have acess even to Limbo or the Gedo Mazo. The difference with his alive one is big. One Rinnegan Madara had 1 Limbo and with 2 he had 4-5. He was restricted and didn't have Rikudo chakra.

 

[~Ethereal~]

So Madara wins?

 

[BLAZE]

Edo Madara's Rinnegan was a fake one.

Yes

He didn't have acess even to Limbo or the Gedo Mazo.

Limbo is restricted and what is Gedo Mezo doing to SS

The difference with his alive one is big. One Rinnegan Madara had 1 Limbo and with 2 he had 4-5.

DB clearly stated he has 4 Limbo with 2 Rinnegans

He was restricted and didn't have Rikudo chakra.

He used Six Path powers aka Preta Path and had his Rinnegan so yeah he had Rikudou chakra and Hashirama was restricted from using full power too

As you are saying madara wins can you explain How does he counters SS

 

[Lariatoo]

Hmm..
Does Madara gets only the Rinnegan or Hashi's Sage Mode and cells as well?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

So was hashi
and limbo is restricted here

Yeah and Madara ended up beating him with those chakra receivers.
There's some jutsus that madara used as an edo tensei that he never when he was alive and the same thing the other way around.
DR Madara is stronger than any other version of Madara besides Juubi jinchuuriki/Rikudou Madara.

 

[BLAZE]

Yeah and Madara ended up beating him with those chakra receivers.

No both were immobalized

There's some jutsus that madara used as an edo tensei that he never when he was alive and the same thing the other way around.

So still tied up with Hashi who didn't use SS

DR Madara is stronger than any other version of Madara besides Juubi jinchuuriki/Rikudou Madara.

Nvr denied that
and now Q remains How does he puts down SS

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

No both were immobalizedSo still tied up with Hashi who didn't use SS

I was talking about this here.

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Madara also didn't use his rinnegan techniques against Hashirama too. So it really wasn't a tie if Madara needed Hashirama around to steal his senjutsu right after 15 minutes.

Nvr denied that
and now Q remains How does he puts down SS

The same way he did it at VOTE. Or he can just abosrb it.
Putting those receivers prevent the user using their chakra to preform a ninjutsu. That's why Hashirama need to give it to Sasuke instead.

 

[Kushina san]

Yeah and Madara ended up beating him with those chakra receivers.
There's some jutsus that madara used as an edo tensei that he never when he was alive and the same thing the other way around.
DR Madara is stronger than any other version of Madara besides Juubi jinchuuriki/Rikudou Madara.

Actually edo Hashirama defeated edo Madara.

Madara immobilized Hashirama after Obito used the rinne tensei, when Madara alive at full power he could destroy the myoujinmon.

Madara was lucky that Obito was defeated at that time, or it would be sealed.

 

[BLAZE]

I was talking about this here.

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Madara was himself immobilized too

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then

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Madara also didn't use his rinnegan techniques against Hashirama too. So it really wasn't a tie if Madara needed Hashirama around to steal his senjutsu right after 15 minutes.

and what does his Rinnegan Techs do to SS

The same way he did it at VOTE.

No he can't.He canonically lacks Kurama after being revived

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Madara was himself immobilized too

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then

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But in that second panel, he broke out of it with his bare-hands

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Even Hashirama thought Madara was bluffing^^

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So the only thing that was pinning him down for a while was the little twin wood dragon. You also have to remeber how did Madara get in that position in the first place? Because prior to that him and Hashirama were dodging shinjuu branches talking about Kaguya.

and what does his Rinnegan Techs do to SS

He can absorb all of Hashirama's jutsus besides another absorbing technique such as the wood dragon.
He also can drop two huge meteors from the sky, he didn't use that against Hashirama too.
Chibakui tensei included.

No he can't.He canonically lacks Kurama after being revived

Canonically the kyuubi was taken away from Madara

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