Kaguya, Hagoromo, Momoshiki, Madara, Hamura, Naruto, Sasuke etc. power comparision

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Tier list: Ootsutsuki, Rikudou powered characters, JJ

Tier 1:

1. Prime Kaguya
2. Post birth Kaguya

Tier 2:

1. JJ Hagoromo
2. Powered up Kaguya(end of battle)
3. TEAM: (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto with NE & (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo


Tier 3:

1. (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto with NE
1. (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo
2. TEAM: Vote 2 Naruto with NE & Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo
3. TEAM: (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto & (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke
4. Revived Kaguya

Tier 4:

1. Tenseigan Hamura
2. Post Jin Hagoromo
3. Three eyed JJ Madara
4. Demon Momoshiki
5. DRG JJ Madara

Tier 5:

1. (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto
1. (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke
2. The Last RSM Naruto
2. The Last Rinnegan Sasuke
3. Vote 2 RSM Naruto with NE
3. Vote 2 Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo
4. TEAM: Kaguya battle RSM Naruto & Kaguya battle RSM Sasuke
5. Pre Jin Hagoromo
5. Hamura

Tier 6:

1. Momoshiki
2. Tenseigan Toneri
3. One RG JJ Madara Post shinjuu

Tier 7:

1. Pre Shinjuu One RG JJ Madara
2. Madara battle RSM Naruto
3. Madara battle Rinnegan Sasuke
3. JJ Obito
3. Indra
3. Ashura

Tier 8
1. Kinshiki

I am not sure where I would place Adult Naruto and Adult Sasuke but it would be just my guess.
Just to note Naruto and Sasuke would be at their best, It means no one is rusty and Naruto use all bijuu chakra at top of full Kurama as RSM.
Also everyone is based either by hype or by both hype and feats(if character has any).

Discuss
 
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You know kaguya was at her strongest when she faced,nardo and sauce and unnerfed adult rsm naruto with,full 9 bijuu chakra and planet level ne wrecks anybody on your list and why do you guys keep assuming hago was supposedly stronger after becoming a jin,when was it mentioned that he used ten tails coffin seal on himself ???
 

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Maybe you should just stick to one version of a character? People are just gonna get confused. :lol
 

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You know kaguya was at her strongest when she faced,nardo and sauce and unnerfed adult rsm naruto with,full 9 bijuu chakra and planet level ne wrecks anybody on your list and why do you guys keep assuming hago was supposedly stronger after becoming a jin,when was it mentioned that he used ten tails coffin seal on himself ???

Because the manga and databook said so. JJ Hagoromo was the one who used Nunoboko sword to reshape whole word after devasting battle with Juubi with help of Hamura.

And no, Prime Kaguya(the one consuming fruit) was far more powerefull then any other Kaguya version. Even in databook 4 Kaguya reffer to Hagoromo and Hamura as her lost chakra. Also you are overrating Naruto/ possibly Sasuke too.

Maybe you should just stick to one version of a character? People are just gonna get confused. :lol

Good idea, but I prefer it this way. Besides This is tier list, no top list with numbers lol. In each tier it begins from the strongest to weakest ;p.

Anyway, any thoughts if it may be correct or would you change something ?
 
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JJ Madara solos adult naruto or sasuke 1 vs 1 high diff.
 

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JJ Madara solos adult naruto or sasuke 1 vs 1 high diff.

Well the one who were shown nerfed with manga feats sure.

The one who they have potential to be, no sorry.
 
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With that list, we can clearly say that Momoshiki shouldn't be a threat to Kaguya.
Telling us that the threat that Kaguya fears is something else than Momoshiki's and Kinshiki's arrival.

I would even put Momoshiki lower than what you did in the list.
 

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1. There is no version of Kaguya JJ Hagoromo, Naruto or Sasuke can beat alone, except maybe for weakened Kaguya. Please just move up powered-up Kaguya, as her being below Hagoromo and Naruto/Sasuke is just... wrong.

2. In no way are Naruto and Sasuke in Kaguya's tier.

3. How exactly do you put the exact same versions in different tiers? VoTE N&S are apparently in the tier of Adult N&S (they are), and then they are moved two tiers below, only to be grouped with Toneri.

4. Tenesigan Hamura will crap on DR JJ Madara, considering he's =< JJ Hagoromo, most likely below, but not by that much.

5. 3-eyed Madara is in a tier of his own, definitely can't be grouped together with Momoshiki or DR JJ Madara.

6. LOL at Toneri being in Naruto and Sasuke's tier. Each of them can molest him.

7. Kinshiki has no place in your tier list at all. He's way below any of the people listed, somewhere around Nagato's tier, just below EMS Sasuke (inb4 speed argument - yes, Kinshiki is one of the fastest characters in the manga, but his overall power is severely lacking, and since these are tiers that measure just that, he's not for this list).
 
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With that list, we can clearly say that Momoshiki shouldn't be a threat to Kaguya.
Telling us that the threat that Kaguya fears is something else than Momoshiki's and Kinshiki's arrival.

I would even put Momoshiki lower than what you did in the list.
They were the threats tho. It's just that movie villains are almost always underpowered.
 

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I knew this list was going to be a pile of trash the moment I saw who OP was.

Tier 1:

1. Prime Kaguya
2. Post birth Kaguya

There is no difference between Kaguya back then and Kaguya now.

Tier 2:
1. JJ Hagoromo
2. (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto with NE & (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo

:lol HAHAHAHAHA get this nonsense out of here. Call me when Naruto and Sasuke show a jump in power this large. There is no "hypothetically".

Tier 3:

1. Powered up Kaguya(end of battle)

Putting Kaguya w/ access to her Gudo Dama below Hagoromo, Naruto and Sasuke is probably one the stupidest things on this garbage list. :lol This Kaguya moves up to one.

Tier 4:

1. (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto with NE/ (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo
2. Vote 2 Naruto with NE & Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo
3. (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto & (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke
4. Kaguya

:lol Kaguya two tiers below Hagoromo? Man oh man. What a fanboy.
Tier 5:

1. Post Jin Hagoromo
2. Three eyed JJ Madara
3. Demon Momoshiki
4. DRG JJ Madara/Tenseigan Hamura

The only part of your thing that comes close to making sense.
Tier 6:

1. (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto/(Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke
2. The Last RSM Naruto/The Last Rinnegan Sasuke
3. Tenseigan Toneri
4. Vote 2 RSM Naruto with NE/Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo

:lol @ Naruto and Sasuke being a tier below the people above.
:lol @ Tenseigan Hamura being on par with JJ Madara when regular Hamura is on par with regular Hagoromo who is already on par with Madara. It's funny cause you got outdebated in this exact topic yet you do what fanboys do best, ignore evidence that hurts their bias views.
:lol @ Toneri being here when KCSM Naruto slapped him around.

Tier 7:

1. Kaguya arc Naruto & Sasuke
2. Momoshiki
3. One RG JJ Madara Post shinjuu
4. Pre Jin Hagoromo
5. Hamura

Lol at Pre Jin Hagoromo being a tier below Post Jin Hagoromo even though there is literally no difference in power.

Tier 8:

1. Pre Shinjuu One RG JJ Madara
2. RSM Naruto/Rinnegan Sasuke
3. JJ Obito/Indra/Ashura
4. Kinshiki

:loll @ Kinshiki being on the level of Juubi Jins when Sasuke w/ a Katana+Chojuro and Kurotsuchi as support can beat him. Lol @ Kinshiki being on the level of Juubi Jins when his best feat is overpowering Sasuke in sword play.
 

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Because the manga and databook said so. JJ Hagoromo was the one who used Nunoboko sword to reshape whole word after devasting battle with Juubi with help of Hamura.

And no, Prime Kaguya(the one consuming fruit) was far more powerefull then any other Kaguya version. Even in databook 4 Kaguya reffer to Hagoromo and Hamura as her lost chakra. Also you are overrating Naruto/ possibly Sasuke too.



Lol,start providing proof and stop making assumptions,it makes absolutely no sense for hago to want to empower himself with the juubi.

Also,war arc kaguya was stronger than her previous self. The original chakra of kaguya was just that of the tailed beasts combined. Databook says her chakra was dispersed between hago and hamura,but she didn't lose any of hers,all chakra belongs to the shinju/kaguya but it doesn't mean that the shinju possessed all the chakra that existed for more than one thousand years.

Hago and hamura inherited kaguya's chakra but it didn't affect kaguya's own chakra quantity. If you're saying it did then when all of kaguya chakra was shared between her sons how did she have any left,or even if it wasn't all her chakra wouldn't she had known if a large part of her chakra was gone and would have taken it back from her sons?

The first time kaguya took IT chakra she was probably as powerful as her oldself,but the second time she became more powerful,black zetsu said she had gained new power. I'm not overrating naruto,since you said hypothetical,imagine naruto telling all the 9 bijuu to gather NE,around the amount kurama gathered I vote 2 and send it him along with all their chakra to him,and this naruto is unnerfed.gg
 
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They were the threats tho. It's just that movie villains are almost always underpowered.

And ridiculous looking to boot. Both Shikis looked retarded. Their Oni Form was meh....:coffee:
 

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Their strongest versions only :


Kaguya
JJ Hagoromo
Tenseigan Hamura
3 eye JJ Madara
Adult Naruto/Adult Sasuke
 

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Re: Tier list: Ootsutsuki, Rikudou powered characters, JJ

Tier 1:

1. Prime Kaguya
2. Post birth Kaguya

Tier 2:
1. JJ Hagoromo
2. (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto with NE & (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo

Tier 3:

1. Powered up Kaguya(end of battle)

Tier 4:

1. (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto with NE/ (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo
2. Vote 2 Naruto with NE & Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo
3. (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto & (Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke
4. Kaguya

Tier 5:

1. Post Jin Hagoromo
2. Three eyed JJ Madara
3. Demon Momoshiki
4. DRG JJ Madara/Tenseigan Hamura

Tier 6:

1. (Hypotheticaly) RSM Adult Naruto/(Hypotheticaly) Rinnegan Adult Sasuke
2. The Last RSM Naruto/The Last Rinnegan Sasuke
3. Tenseigan Toneri
4. Vote 2 RSM Naruto with NE/Sasuke Bijuu Susanoo

Tier 7:

1. Kaguya arc Naruto & Sasuke
2. Momoshiki
3. One RG JJ Madara Post shinjuu
4. Pre Jin Hagoromo
5. Hamura

Tier 8:

1. Pre Shinjuu One RG JJ Madara
2. RSM Naruto/Rinnegan Sasuke
3. JJ Obito/Indra/Ashura
4. Kinshiki

I am not sure where I would place Adult Naruto and Adult Sasuke but it would be just my guess.
Just to note Naruto and Sasuke would be at their best, It means no one is rusty and Naruto use all bijuu chakra at top of full Kurama as RSM.
Also everyone is based either by hype or by both hype and feats(if character has any).

Discuss

you list is terrible

1. Bold you put those version 2 times.

2.tier 4 No way adult Naruto Sasuke are same tier as Kaguya

3. tier 2 No way adult Naruto Sasuke are same tier as JJ Hagoromo. You do realise that Naruto/sasuke only have half power of Hagoromo without Juubi.

So there adult version first need to close the gap from lacking other half of Hagoromo power and honestly they didnt do even that. Ading Juubi to Hagoromo is overkill.


So strongest Adult Naruto/sasuke are way below JJ Hagoromo.



And what nonsense is that with Nature energy ? That power Naruto always have, also as sage what stops Hagoromo from collecting same amount of Nature energy like Naruto
 

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With that list, we can clearly say that Momoshiki shouldn't be a threat to Kaguya.
Telling us that the threat that Kaguya fears is something else than Momoshiki's and Kinshiki's arrival.

I would even put Momoshiki lower than what you did in the list.

Yeah, this is how I see it at least from the movie. Novel Demon Momoshiki is a bit more impressive but still weak in compare to Kaguya.

1. There is no version of Kaguya JJ Hagoromo, Naruto or Sasuke can beat alone, except maybe for weakened Kaguya. Please just move up powered-up Kaguya, as her being below Hagoromo and Naruto/Sasuke is just... wrong.

2. In no way are Naruto and Sasuke in Kaguya's tier.

3. How exactly do you put the exact same versions in different tiers? VoTE N&S are apparently in the tier of Adult N&S (they are), and then they are moved two tiers below, only to be grouped with Toneri.

4. Tenesigan Hamura will crap on DR JJ Madara, considering he's =< JJ Hagoromo, most likely below, but not by that much.

5. 3-eyed Madara is in a tier of his own, definitely can't be grouped together with Momoshiki or DR JJ Madara.

6. LOL at Toneri being in Naruto and Sasuke's tier. Each of them can molest him.

7. Kinshiki has no place in your tier list at all. He's way below any of the people listed, somewhere around Nagato's tier, just below EMS Sasuke (inb4 speed argument - yes, Kinshiki is one of the fastest characters in the manga, but his overall power is severely lacking, and since these are tiers that measure just that, he's not for this list).

1. Yes , there is you are just blind to what manga has told us and has shown to us.
2. Most likely not, although powered up with NE and Bijuu Susanoo especially adult versions, who knows.
3. Because first versions are means measured as group, so there is &, while these below means one of them so it is marked by /
4. I doubt that and surely he is inferior to JJ Hagoromo. You are just understimating power of Prime Juubi
5. I didn't see such giant jump in power in Madara's case. Unless talk of his potential to absorb chakra from people caught in IT. Also Demon Momoshiki has shown impressive feats on par with Madara in manga.
6. Yeah, they can beat him , but not molest him or stomp. They(these specified versions) are more powerfull but still same tier.
7. True, still tried to put him there

I knew this list was going to be a pile of trash the moment I saw who OP was.

There is no difference between Kaguya back then and Kaguya now.

:lol HAHAHAHAHA get this nonsense out of here. Call me when Naruto and Sasuke show a jump in power this large. There is no "hypothetically".

Putting Kaguya w/ access to her Gudo Dama below Hagoromo, Naruto and Sasuke is probably one the stupidest things on this garbage list. :lol This Kaguya moves up to one.

:lol Kaguya two tiers below Hagoromo? Man oh man. What a fanboy.

The only part of your thing that comes close to making sense.

:lol @ Naruto and Sasuke being a tier below the people above.
:lol @ Tenseigan Hamura being on par with JJ Madara when regular Hamura is on par with regular Hagoromo who is already on par with Madara. It's funny cause you got outdebated in this exact topic yet you do what fanboys do best, ignore evidence that hurts their bias views.
:lol @ Toneri being here when KCSM Naruto slapped him around.

Lol at Pre Jin Hagoromo being a tier below Post Jin Hagoromo even though there is literally no difference in power.

:loll @ Kinshiki being on the level of Juubi Jins when Sasuke w/ a Katana+Chojuro and Kurotsuchi as support can beat him. Lol @ Kinshiki being on the level of Juubi Jins when his best feat is overpowering Sasuke in sword play.

Yes !!!!, What a honor to have KidGamer to enter and visit my thread ;).

1. Yes, there is, I can prove that to you whenever you are ready.
2. See above, different version of Kaguya stand in other place then her other version, simple as that. Naruto and Sasuke were hypoteticaly versions of Adult in their strongest teen forms
3. see above
4. I see
5. What do you mean ? specify yourself
6. Tenseigan is more powerfull, and yes I may put him to low, but still he is inferior to JJ Hagoromo and by much. Also I doubt Pre Jin Hagoromo or Hamura would tie with JJ DRG Madara.
7. so what, I didn't see him much inferior and that Naruto's version needed help of Hinata.
8. ex jinchurki retain powers of Bijuu or at least part of it. The difference may be small but it is.
9. Well Ok, here you are right. He would get tier on his own.



Lol,start providing proof and stop making assumptions,it makes absolutely no sense for hago to want to empower himself with the juubi.

Also,war arc kaguya was stronger than her previous self. The original chakra of kaguya was just that of the tailed beasts combined. Databook says her chakra was dispersed between hago and hamura,but she didn't lose any of hers,all chakra belongs to the shinju/kaguya but it doesn't mean that the shinju possessed all the chakra that existed for more than one thousand years.

Hago and hamura inherited kaguya's chakra but it didn't affect kaguya's own chakra quantity. If you're saying it did then when all of kaguya chakra was shared between her sons how did she have any left,or even if it wasn't all her chakra wouldn't she had known if a large part of her chakra was gone and would have taken it back from her sons?

The first time kaguya took IT chakra she was probably as powerful as her oldself,but the second time she became more powerful,black zetsu said she had gained new power. I'm not overrating naruto,since you said hypothetical,imagine naruto telling all the 9 bijuu to gather NE,around the amount kurama gathered I vote 2 and send it him along with all their chakra to him,and this naruto is unnerfed.gg

stay salty then, because Juubi greatly power up who ever seal it in him/her and doesn't matter if he/she wants it or no.

Still bullshit, Past Kaguya had all the chakra in the world so noone can be above her, not even her other versions.

She tried to, but was stopped by her sons.

Of course he said that, because he meant her previous version the one after being ressurected. Also this hypoteticaly Naruto means the greatest from he has shown as teen with all possible feats scaled to adult version. No jack shit Naruto can gather NE whole planet and one shot everyone, that is bullshit.



I like how you kept saying bijuu susano XD

Haha, thanks man ;p

you list is terrible

1. Bold you put those version 2 times.

2.tier 4 No way adult Naruto Sasuke are same tier as Kaguya

3. tier 2 No way adult Naruto Sasuke are same tier as JJ Hagoromo. You do realise that Naruto/sasuke only have half power of Hagoromo without Juubi.

So there adult version first need to close the gap from lacking other half of Hagoromo power and honestly they didnt do even that. Ading Juubi to Hagoromo is overkill.


So strongest Adult Naruto/sasuke are way below JJ Hagoromo.



And what nonsense is that with Nature energy ? That power Naruto always have, also as sage what stops Hagoromo from collecting same amount of Nature energy like Naruto

1. wrong, one is listed as group and other as each of them how they scale
2. Of course not with feats. However Same Adult Naruto with all power of teen RSM with NE, yeah he could be, Same with Bijuu Susanoo Sasuke
3. Look above

Nice thoughts, something to think about it. Good points, I only put them as high taking their hypothetically Adult versions of teen strongest forms.

Indra/Ashur>>>Rinnegan Sasuke/Rsm Naruto

And what is base behind such bold statement ?
 
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