[Discussion] Zaraki Kenpachi , strongest shinigami at EOS?

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Out of the 5 war potentials, only 2 are "rising stars". Zaraki and Ichigo. Out of Ichigo and Zaraki, Zaraki is the only "pure " shinigami, and has been constantly put on par with Ichigo (except for the powerups he gained against Aizen).

Now lets look at recent events :


- both trained
- both unlocked their potential
- both had bad performances in their first fight after training
- both got help
- both are now about to go back to kicking ass


Now, Zaraki is strong enough to be akcnowledged by Bach, over the other captains like shunsui/byakuya and so on..That leads me to believe, that be EOS (end of story) Zaraki Kenpachi, will hold true to his title of "kenpachi", by being the strongest Shinigami alive (Ichigo might be strong or stronger, but not with just his shinigami powers).

^^ If that happens, I'm gonna assume Unohana was on par with Yamamoto or just a bit weaker.

What yall think man
 

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First off zaraki had a good performance in his first fight after training he did good against gremmy without having to use full power....second no yama can easily beat unohana seeing as she is only a close range fighter so yama bankai will be her worst nightmare.
 

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All 5 war potentials are hyped and portrayed to be equal, each one with his own advantages in fights.

So, for the good guys:

1-Yamamoto
2/6 - 5 war potentials
7/.. - The rest

And i don't think the title of Kenpachi includes Yamamoto, since he is clearly on a different level from the other shinigamis.
 

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I think it was already stated that the young Zaraki was stronger than Retsu. It was stated during their fight's flashback when Retsu said that she wanted to see the power that Zaraki displayed in the SS slums, back when Retsu was known by the title "Kenpachi" ...

Well, as for what you said, I guess that Zaraki could really become a beast among the strongest shinigami. Considering how he could face two captains at once in their full power and had the upper hand without even having a shikai, I guess having a shikai and a bankai would really make him leagues apart from some other captains ...
 

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All 5 war potentials are hyped and portrayed to be equal, each one with his own advantages in fights.

So, for the good guys:

1-Yamamoto
2/6 - 5 war potentials
7/.. - The rest

And i don't think the title of Kenpachi includes Yamamoto, since he is clearly on a different level from the other shinigamis.
Hes on a different level from the others? idk how thats true mate. Especially when you have the fact Unohana was "Restricted" from fighting.

First off zaraki had a good performance in his first fight after training he did good against gremmy without having to use full power....second no yama can easily beat unohana seeing as she is only a close range fighter so yama bankai will be her worst nightmare.
She is only a close range fighter, on what basis?? And be her worst nightmare? But Yamamoto wasn't the one held from fighting.. lol

Aizen says no
Hes gonna get surpassed dawg. Bellarina Aizen will know feat when he faces Zaraki :cool:
 
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Hes on a different level from the others? idk how thats true mate. Especially when you have the fact Unohana was "Restricted" from fighting.



She is only a close range fighter, on what basis?? And be her worst nightmare? But Yamamoto wasn't the one held from fighting.. lol



Hes gonna get surpassed dawg. Bellarina Aizen will know feat when he faces Zaraki :cool:
Well from what we seen she is mainly a close range fighter...she was held from fighting cuz she's the best healer they have.
 

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How exactly is he overrated, when he hasn't even gone full power.. and i'm sure Ichigo was getting his ass kicked as well.. so is he overrated? =D
He's overrated because he's no where near the strongest shinigami,

Got negged by Ryod llyod actiong as Ywach, Got a Shikai lost to gremmy (Yes he lost if gremmy would have use just 1 more explosion kenpachi would have died instead of trying to mimic his powers) Those girl sternritter owned his ass he goes to warwhelt gets his arm twisted apart by Pernida. Kenpachi is vastly overrated.

shunsui Bankai negs, Kenpachi. Askin would stomp him to, Aizen negs him Ichibei Yama, Lillie Barro, etc.
 

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All 5 war potentials are hyped and portrayed to be equal, each one with his own advantages in fights.

So, for the good guys:

1-Yamamoto
2/6 - 5 war potentials
7/.. - The rest

And i don't think the title of Kenpachi includes Yamamoto, since he is clearly on a different level from the other shinigamis.
The War Potentials are not hyped to be equal, or even close in power. They are just people who Yhwach considers an unknown factor to the war. If they were meant to be equal, then Kenpachi who got wrecked by Royd is meant to be as strong as Ichibe. Yes, the Royd comparison is fair, he was a potential for his fighting strength even then.
 

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I believe Kenny will have the most raw power for the shinigami but for what it's worth it doesn't mean much since he is horribly unskilled compared to the fighters that will be in the upper levels of strength. People like perinda or an unorthodox abililty (which is most heavy hitters) would eat him alive.
 

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He's overrated because he's no where near the strongest shinigami,

Got negged by Ryod llyod actiong as Ywach, Got a Shikai lost to gremmy (Yes he lost if gremmy would have use just 1 more explosion kenpachi would have died instead of trying to mimic his powers) Those girl sternritter owned his ass he goes to warwhelt gets his arm twisted apart by Pernida. Kenpachi is vastly overrated.

shunsui Bankai negs, Kenpachi. Askin would stomp him to, Aizen negs him Ichibei Yama, Lillie Barro, etc.
Boy if you dont get tf on. Lol

Last time I checked, kenpachi was the only person to have defeated anybody!! during the first invasion. he actually killed 3 people. While anybody else killed how many? thats right 0. You saying he got defeated by wannabe ywach is like say ino got pwned by sasuke . Which would be wayy understandable.

He lost to gremmy? Didnt know gremmy was alive.. but ok. lmao
he would have lost if he used another explosion? where is the proof to that? lol

he got his ass pwned by 4 females who attacked him together while caught off guard if i remember correctly, oh not to mention he just got done taking more damage then anybody in ss could take.

Oh damn, lets not forget that him getting his arm twisted he was still willing to fight

please stop with your kenpachi hating. Cause as of now, NOBODy in bleach in ss could accomplish what kenpachi has done. Ichigo maybe only cause his latent potential but please lets not try and say hes overrated, when hes actually rated how he should which is pretty ****n awesome. If you wanna talk about somebody overrated, go talk about byakuya who shouldve died and the only reason kubo brung him back was cause he was gettn death threats.. but im shleep though

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I believe Kenny will have the most raw power for the shinigami but for what it's worth it doesn't mean much since he is horribly unskilled compared to the fighters that will be in the upper levels of strength. People like perinda or an unorthodox abililty (which is most heavy hitters) would eat him alive.
He's horribly unskilled? Unohana while she was unlocking his powers, was also teaching him "How to fight". He is the guy that Yamamoto stopped teaching on how to use the sword after day 1.

Kubo is just doing bad writing in my opinion when it comes to Zaraki/Ichigo. Both trained hard as ****... only to get put down. But then again Zaraki hasn't removed that eyepatch.

A healer job is not to fight but heal those that are fighting...their was no guarantee ss was going to fall.
You're right a healer's job is not to fight. But they have a whole division of healers not just 1 person. Her skills in fighting are more valuable. Afterall, it was only her who was able to unlock Zaraki's full power, and not any other captain from the Gotei 13. There was no guarantee ss was going to fall??? Mate... Aizen made Yamamoto useless..

He's overrated because he's no where near the strongest shinigami,

Got negged by Ryod llyod actiong as Ywach, Got a Shikai lost to gremmy (Yes he lost if gremmy would have use just 1 more explosion kenpachi would have died instead of trying to mimic his powers) Those girl sternritter owned his ass he goes to warwhelt gets his arm twisted apart by Pernida. Kenpachi is vastly overrated.

shunsui Bankai negs, Kenpachi. Askin would stomp him to, Aizen negs him Ichibei Yama, Lillie Barro, etc.
And all of that happened after Zaraki had just survived a huge fight against Gremmy.. without even unleashing his full power. You know the guy who he beat simply by using the sword to cut and his reitsu.. while the others need shikai abilities and bankais..
 
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