How is racism just systematic oppression?

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I thought racism is when you view other races as being inferior/superior, being disrespectful/hateful, committing crimes or doing immoral things to someone because of their race.

I mean I know systematic oppression is racism but it's definitely not the only form of racism.

I understand that minorities can get frustrated over racism more, but using racism back only makes things worse.

I was wondering because on another thread a lot of people were saying that.

Also, would hating another tribe or small group be considered racism? I know they're not races but the concepts are exactly the same...
 

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I thought racism is when you view other races as being inferior/superior, being disrespectful/hateful, committing crimes or doing immoral things to someone because of their race.

I mean I know systematic oppression is racism but it's definitely not the only form of racism.

I understand that minorities can get frustrated over racism more, but using racism back only makes things worse.

I was wondering because on another thread a lot of people were saying that.

Also, would hating another tribe or small group be considered racism? I know they're not races but the concepts are exactly the same...
You're talking about the U.S., no?

You should start first by giving us robust examples and proofs for systematic oppression
 

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You're talking about the U.S., no?

You should start first by giving us robust examples and proofs for systematic oppression
I have none, that's why I'm asking you guys how it is.

I mean I know there's a problem with the police, but that's definitely not the whole system, and is not being supported by the system from what I know.
 

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Yeah, systematic oppression is not the only kind of racism. White privilege, if you believe it, also promotes discrimination without necessarily doing anything to the minority. Racism would've been much less if colonization hadn't occurred because less of a need for the slave trade and other eastern countries would have a more developed society. Racism today is a different case because most people are more frustrated at the system stereotypes than the people actually doing the racism.
 

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I can't say much on the matter because I live in Russia, and racism isn't an issue here at all, but it seems to me that the problem itself is very overrated nowadays. People tend to see racism in the things and situations where there are no real sign of it at all, going too much overboard with their conclusions and accusations.
 

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Also, would hating another tribe or small group be considered racism? I know they're not races but the concepts are exactly the same...
Hating another tribe or small group and /or thinking they are inferior, is also racism, considering the definition of race.


2 a ​group of ​people who ​share the same ​language, ​history, ​characteristics


1. A group of people identified as distinct from other groups because of supposed physical or genetic traits shared by the group. Most biologists and anthropologists do not recognize race as a biologically valid classification, in part because there is more genetic variation within groups than between them.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the Celtic race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.
4. Humans considered as a group.




The UN does not define "racism"; however, it does define "racial discrimination": According to the United Nations International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination,

the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

This definition does not make any difference between discrimination based on ethnicity and race, in part because the distinction between the two remains debatable among anthropologists. Similarly, in British law the phrase racial group means "any group of people who are defined by reference to their race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin".
 
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That is racism in an American context, just as you wouldn't say slavery in America, when referring to something like indentured servitude.

And if you need examples of systematic oppression in America, I'll give you a few.
-Racial Housing Covenants made it impossible to get good housing in the North, but if you stayed in the south you could be lynched. White neighborhoods would make clauses preventing people from selling housing to blacks. So, during the great migration, Afro-American people had to make their own, lower funded, neighborhoods. (Started, 1920s, Still Going)
-Redlining is the practice of banks refusing to give loans (college, to start businesses, to buy housing) to people in certain areas, which were almost always neighborhoods created by Racial Housing Covenants. For this reason, black neighborhoods have less businesses, less college educated people, and less quality housing. This was just fully abolished last year.
-Jim Crow Laws allowed for mass incarceration and genocide. Since blacks could be jailed for something as simple as refusing to walk in the street if a white person crossed paths with them on the sidewalk, many Afro-American were jailed, resulting in less population growth, and less success within the black community. This, paired with the Race Riots and lynchings that burned down whatever success blacks WERE able to create, destroyed black neighborhoods, eventually leading to them becoming slums.

All three of those practices worked together to destroy African American communities, and stunt the growth of blacks. This is institutionalized racism. That is 1/3 of institutionalized racism, commonly called Jim Crow Laws, the 2/3rd is of course slavery. The 3/3rd being the only type of 'racism' whites can experience, being emotional prejudice.
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">You can hate another tribe or w/e as much as you like due to past dealings. Rivalry isn't the problem. Not having respect is. That's why discrimination is the &quot;irrational&quot; hatred of a group. There shouldn't really be a sense of superiority if they're your rivals after all. That doesn't make sense.<br /> <br /> As for the systematic racism or w/e. No idea what that's referring to. Trump and a few Republicans or something probably...</div>
 

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You can hate another tribe or w/e as much as you like due to past dealings. Rivalry isn't the problem. Not having respect is. That's why discrimination is the "irrational" hatred of a group. There shouldn't really be a sense of superiority if they're your rivals after all. That doesn't make sense.

As for the systematic racism or w/e. No idea what that's referring to. Trump and a few Republicans or something probably...
Systematic racism is a completely real thing, I'll explain it if you need, but I basically explained a few facets of it above.
 
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