Hashirama vs Joki Boi

[Brother Numpsay]

Location: Gaara vs Gengetsu

Restrictions: SM.

Conditions: Base off the title, Gengetsu is no where to be found. So Hashirama has to strictly take out Joki Boi himself. Joki Boi also has Gengetsu's feats.

 

[Lord Tywin]

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[Brother Numpsay]

Refresh my memory on how Hashirama puts it down :bdpf:

 

[Lord Tywin]

Refresh my memory on how Hashirama puts it down :bdpf:

Please explain how Tree World doesn't one shot Joki Boy
Tell me how flower wood dragon doesn't one shot him again
Please tell me how a sword to the face doesn't kill Joki boy?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Please explain how Tree World doesn't one shot Joki Boy

Tree world puts you to sleep and absorbs life energy, Joki boy is a jutsu that explodes. There is no one-shot here. Use your brain.

Tell me how flower wood dragon doesn't one shot him again

Again. No one-shot here. It absorbs ninjustu.

Please tell me how a sword to the face doesn't kill Joki boy?

Because a sword to the face of a bomb is such a good idea.

On topic here OP. Hashirama wins simply the fact that wood release binds chakra. So Hashirama doesn't need any special kind of wood release to keep this jutsu suppressed from building up pressure to go off.

 

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[KidGamer65]

Mokuryu binds it. Then Hashirama sets it off on Kakuzu and obliterates Domu low diff.

 

[Lord Tywin]

If Tobious Uchiha had an ounce of brain he would understand what I'm saying

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

When dummies-->Insert KRATOS here<---try to sound smart.
Pipe down f*cktard. Don't justify your stupidity.

 

[Lord Tywin]

:lol.

 

[NarutoX28]

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Wood Dragon just absorbs Joki Boy's Chakra, low-diff.

Actually, restraining it prevents the water from evaporating which causes the steam explosion, so Joki Boy can't really do anything harmful to Hashirama at all.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Please explain how Tree World doesn't one shot Joki Boy

Physical damage is useless? Its a walking water balloon via Hydrification. [

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Tell me how flower wood dragon doesn't one shot him again

FTW is the same as World Tree. Pollen is useless as Joki doesnt have a nervous system to make him sleep. So again via Hydricfication

Wood Dragon cant keep up with Joki Speed so it runs around till it blows up on him. Lets say it did bind him. Mokuton hardly is good at suppressing chakra other then Buijuu's. Guy was capable of building up chakra up to 7 gates when he was bind. And Joki Boi doesnt need much movement to explode restricted [

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Please tell me how a sword to the face doesn't kill Joki boy?

You forgot about hydricfication? Forgot about the fact that its could blow up on his face?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

On topic here OP. Hashirama wins simply the fact that wood release binds chakra. So Hashirama doesn't need any special kind of wood release to keep this jutsu suppressed from building up pressure to go off.

Wood Dragon just absorbs Joki Boy's Chakra, low-diff.

Actually, restraining it prevents the water from evaporating which causes the steam explosion, so Joki Boy can't really do anything harmful to Hashirama at all.

Not true when it comes to characters other then Buijuu chakra. Refer to Guy and Kisame situation

 

[NarutoX28]

Kisame couldn't absorb Gai's Attack because it wasn't composed of Chakra, so I fail to see how that implies that Hashirama's Wood Dragon can only absorb Bijuu Chakra. Actually, are you implying that Samehada can't absorb Chakras other than Bijuu Chakra?

You're still wrong regardless as Hashiram's Wood Dragon was stated to have been absorbing the Chakra used in activating Preta Path's Chakra Absorption:

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Absolutely no indication that a Chakra Absorbing Construct can't absorb Joki Boy's Chakra.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Kisame couldn't absorb Gai's Attack because it wasn't composed of Chakra, so I fail to see how that implies that Hashirama's Wood Dragon can only absorb Bijuu Chakra. Actually, are you implying that Samehada can't absorb Chakras other than Bijuu Chakra?

You misinterpret my post. I stated both Gai and Kisame were victims to Mokuton binding. Yamato got Kisame while Edo Madara got Guy.

You're still wrong regardless as Hashiram's Wood Dragon was stated to have been absorbing the Chakra used in activating Preta Path's Chakra Absorption:

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Absolutely no indication that a Chakra Absorbing Construct can't absorb Joki Boy's Chakra.

You misinterpret my point again but I assume that you read my rebuttal right above it, which is my bad. Here:

Wood Dragon cant keep up with Joki Speed so it runs around till it blows up on him. Lets say it did bind him. Mokuton hardly is good at suppressing chakra other then Buijuu's. Guy was capable of building up chakra up to 7 gates when he was bind. And Joki Boi doesnt need much movement to explode restricted [

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[NarutoX28]

You misinterpret my post. I stated both Gai and Kisame were victims to Mokuton binding. Yamato got Kisame while Edo Madara got Guy.

1. What Kisame busted through wasYamato's Mokuton which Yamato conceded as being inferior to Hashirama's.

2. Joki Boy doesn't possess immense physical strength like Kisame or Gai.

3. Gai's arms weren't entirely restrained to the point where he couldn't move his hands a few inches, so there's no reason why he wouldn't have been able to use Hirudora.

4. Though you're right, Mokuton only suppresses Bijuu Chakra, but Wood Dragon has a special ability that does indeed absorb anyone's chakra and was the main reason why Hashirama managed to restrain Edo Madara.

You misinterpret my point again but I assume that you read my rebuttal right above it, which is my bad. Here:

I fail to see how Joki Boy is fast enough to outmaneuver Hashirama's Mokuton. How fast do you think Joki Boy is?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

1. What Kisame busted through wasYamato's Mokuton which Yamato conceded as being inferior to Hashirama's.

2. Joki Boy doesn't possess immense physical strength like Kisame or Gai.

3. Gai's arms weren't entirely restrained to the point where he couldn't move his hands a few inches, so there's no reason why he wouldn't have been able to use Hirudora.

4. Though you're right, Mokuton only suppresses Bijuu Chakra, but Wood Dragon has a special ability that does indeed absorb anyone's chakra and was the main reason why Hashirama managed to restrain Edo Madara.

1. Understood, was just making a point.

2. Irrelevant based on the scans I provided of Joki having nearly no movement inside Sand Burial+Pyramid. As long as it can shake itself its good to go.

3. Same as 2.

4. Agreed, never denied that. I was just making a point that sapping its chakra shouldnt be enough to completly nullify it based on Guy being able to built chakra up to used 7 Gates. Its shouldnt be difficult for Joki to Shake itself till its capable of blowing up.

I fail to see how Joki Boy is fast enough to outmaneuver Hashirama's Mokuton. How fast do you think Joki Boy is?

Not talking about AoE Mokuton, buts its "entity" constructs. Joki was fast enough to outspeed Gaara sand control and its auto deference. Which only well known speedster are known to accomplish.

 

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[Lord Tywin]

Here we go again. 99.98% know this kind of match up as self explanatory stomp, but hey it's EJB here. :lol

Physical damage is useless? Its a walking water balloon via Hydrification. [

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It ain't gonna do shit when it's bound and restricted with wood up its ass. Tree world was clashing with Naruto's clones and rasengan, meaning it has blunt force. Which can be used to knock Joki boy back on its ass. Or it can knock him out. If it's not knocked out, Hashirama immediately uses wood dragon to suck it out of chakra. Given Hashirama's range and versatility, he'd easily catch Joki boy. Neg diff

FTW is the same as World Tree. Pollen is useless as Joki doesnt have a nervous system to make him sleep. So again via Hydricfication

Flower tree world is even worse since the range of the technique is far superior to a normal tree world. Catches Joki boy again and sucks its chakra out. Or shoves a sword through its skull when it's bound by wood.

Wood Dragon cant keep up with Joki Speed so it runs around till it blows up on him. Lets say it did bind him. Mokuton hardly is good at suppressing chakra other then Buijuu's. Guy was capable of building up chakra up to 7 gates when he was bind. And Joki Boi doesnt need much movement to explode restricted [

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1. Wood dragon can't keep up with Joki boy's speed, but it caught fucking Madara
2. Wood dragon kept Madara immobilized
3. That was the first time Joki boy came out. Other times it was shown that it needed quite bit of running around.

You forgot about hydricfication? Forgot about the fact that its could blow up on his face?

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[Brother Numpsay]

Here we go again. 99.98% know this kind of match up as self explanatory stomp, but hey it's EJB here. :lol

Thanks for letting me know your one of the 99% percent. Now I know not to take the statistics seriously, as I know idiots are among them.

It ain't gonna do shit when it's bound and restricted with wood up its ass. Tree world was clashing with Naruto's clones and rasengan, meaning it has blunt force. Which can be used to knock Joki boy back on its ass. Or it can knock him out. If it's not knocked out, Hashirama immediately uses wood dragon to suck it out of chakra. Given Hashirama's range and versatility, he'd easily catch Joki boy. Neg diff

Except we seen scans blowing up restricted so your point makes no sense. @Bold never denied nor is it relevant. Again you can't knock out something with no brain, to put in coma. Use some logic. Theres no "immediate" chakra drainer in Hashirama's jutsu, manga says it continually saps the users chakra. A restricted Joki was still able to shakes its body, therefore blows up the binding dragon before its capable of running it dry from chakra.

Flower tree world is even worse since the range of the technique is far superior to a normal tree world. Catches Joki boy again and sucks its chakra out. Or shoves a sword through its skull when it's bound by wood.

It catches Joki Boi and blows up its restraint, then resets. Since when can FTW sucks out chakra? @Bold is why I can't take your arguments seriously. Your actually claiming that 1.) Joki has human anatomy 2.) Your arguing Hozuki KKG can get hurt/die from physical damage.

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1. Wood dragon can't keep up with Joki boy's speed, but it caught fucking Madara
2. Wood dragon kept Madara immobilized
3. That was the first time Joki boy came out. Other times it was shown that it needed quite bit of running around.

1. Irrelevant that gives you no right to makes up speed feats. You dont know how Hashirama did it exactly off screen. So dont make up scenarios and claim " it just ran up to Madara, and Madara couldn't react".
2. Irrelevant based on the fact that Joki can blow up with limited movement.
3. Thats its choice in the manga, that doesn't give you the right to exclude feats we outright witness in the manga.

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Exactly how I feel when arguing against someone who thinks Hozuki lose by cut/damage or blunt/physical force Lol