[VS] Team "Heroes" vs Team "Villiains"

[EZQ]

Team Heroes:

Hiruzen (edo feats, no regen and no infinite chakra)
Jiraiya (starts in SM)
Minato (kiuuby chakra restricted)
War arc Kakashi
SM Naruto (war arc feats)

VS

Team Villiains:

Danzo (KA restricted. He can use tsukuyomi lvl genjutsu with that eye. Starts with the arm thing off)
Orochimaru (edo tensei restricted, he has Zetsu body)
MS Itachi (Healthy, no KA)
MS Obito (Kiuuby and Izanagi restricted)
MS Sasuke (danzo fight)

Am i the only one who thinks the villiains would win?

S2: Remove Obito and put Deva path there.

 

[Beans2]

Minato's clone will quickly take out Obito, the biggest threat.

Kakashi and Hiruzen are vulnerable to Amaterasu one shot, so they die pretty quickly.

Naruto and Jiraiya can hold off Itachi and Sasuke long enough for Minato to assist them, and Danzo and Orochimaru aren't particularly substantial threats to them. I think the heroes win.

 

[LuckyMan]

Team Hero wins.

Team Villain seems handicapped to me. All they have are eye power. They lack versatility and no one brings anything really unique to their combination for them to win more times than not.

Edit-

Am i the only one who thinks the villiains would win?

The argument can be made but they end up losing more times than not.

The main threat to them is Kakashi's Kamui and the only person able to save them from it is Obito's but he would need to be touching them (or rather babysitting) all of them at once, which he can't do so someone is dying to Kamui guaranteed.

When Kakashi's takes out someone with Kamui, and it doesn't matter who he takes out, the loss of any one person that early so quickly to such a hax ability turns the odds of them winning from possible to absolutely impossible unless a miracle occurs and one of them unlocks PS or a newfound MS ability.

 

[Ambivalence]

Am i the only one who thinks the villiains would win?

How do the villains take it? It's a mid-high difficulty win for Team Heroes, imo.

 

[Deadlift]

Villains win scenario 1 and lose scenario 2

 

[KidGamer65]

Team Villain doesn't stand a chance of winning, and that's mostly because of Minato's presence.

 

[Uchihakil]

Team villain wins this, amaterasu spray wipes out hiruzen, jiraya, naruto kakashi, then they gang bang minato

 

[EZQ]

Okay S3 Orochimaru can summon edo tobirama

 

[KidGamer65]

Now I see the villains winning. Decisively at that.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

I think large underestimations are being made on the end of Team Villains.
Danzo having Tsykuyomi level genjutsu, means that he can Combat Kakashi easily, and his Izanagi will counter Kamui more times than Kakashi can use it, and he can also use it to save his teammates, up to 11 times if I am correct.

Orochimaru with a Zetsu body and his Insane Resilience will easily land a blow on Naruto, effectively sapping the Nature Chakra out of him, with Spores not even the Byakugan or Cee could detect.

Here, Obito can take out everyone as long as Kakashi is taken out, which, as previously stated, will happen due to him not being able to Kamui eleven times.

Danzo Fight Sasuke, if we default his eyes (he won't be nearing blindness by the middle of the fight), is very capable of taking on Minato, and shouldn't have an issue keeping up with him until someone dispatches Jiraiya (the weakest link) or Hiruzen, which can happen Via Amaterasu or Susanoo Arrow seeing as neither of them have the speed to evade the other.

All in All, Team Villains all have the Reserves and/or Speed to keep up with a Minato Level opponent, but not everyone on Team Heroes is a Minato Level opponent. The only people who will last in that team are Minato and Naruto, who won't survive the Gangbang they endure.

 

[Thundergod123]

I think large underestimations are being made on the end of Team Villains.
Danzo having Tsykuyomi level genjutsu, means that he can Combat Kakashi easily, and his Izanagi will counter Kamui more times than Kakashi can use it, and he can also use it to save his teammates, up to 11 times if I am correct.

Orochimaru with a Zetsu body and his Insane Resilience will easily land a blow on Naruto, effectively sapping the Nature Chakra out of him, with Spores not even the Byakugan or Cee could detect.

Here, Obito can take out everyone as long as Kakashi is taken out, which, as previously stated, will happen due to him not being able to Kamui eleven times.

Danzo Fight Sasuke, if we default his eyes (he won't be nearing blindness by the middle of the fight), is very capable of taking on Minato, and shouldn't have an issue keeping up with him until someone dispatches Jiraiya (the weakest link) or Hiruzen, which can happen Via Amaterasu or Susanoo Arrow seeing as neither of them have the speed to evade the other.

All in All, Team Villains all have the Reserves and/or Speed to keep up with a Minato Level opponent, but not everyone on Team Heroes is a Minato Level opponent. The only people who will last in that team are Minato and Naruto, who won't survive the Gangbang they endure.

Obito can take on everyone if Kakashi is taken out? No... Minato stomps Obito, and the post didn't said anything about removing FTG on Obito, so Minato one shots him.

MS Sasuke and Danzo are irrelevant, they can't beat Minato, especially when Naruto is there. Orochimaru might be stronger than Jiraiya, however this is a team battle, so the heroes wins this.

Hiruzen is actually the most underestimated character here, so adding him makes the heroes wins this pretty easily.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Obito can take on everyone if Kakashi is taken out? No... Minato stomps Obito, and the post didn't said anything about removing FTG on Obito, so Minato one shots him.

MS Sasuke and Danzo are irrelevant, they can't beat Minato, especially when Naruto is there. Orochimaru might be stronger than Jiraiya, however this is a team battle, so the heroes wins this.

Hiruzen is actually the most underestimated character here, so adding him makes the heroes wins this pretty easily.

Obito's Kamui still protects him from Minato as long as he doesn't slip up, and adult Obito will probably have much higher physical parameters than 14 year old Obito that had been nearly stalemating Minato in CQC. Minato also won't have the opportunity to be looking for miniscule openings when he is engaged in combat with Sasuke, who is more than a match for Minato at his peak condition.

Notice I also made the entire argument not factoring in Itachi, who would easily be stalemating Minato for long periods especially with Edo Feats. His Yasaka Magatama also decimates Jiraiya and Hiruzen off bat, as it is basically the Same as Sasuke's Enton Arrow.

Team Villains wins Extreme Diff S1
Team Heroes wins High Diff S2
Team Villains wins Med Diff S3