Is suicide a sin?

[Pukkake Pokayo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=20150333" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-20150333">Omar19992010 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> <span style="font-family: 'Century Gothic'">I can't comment from the Christain, Jewish, Hindu,etc perspective but from the Islamic perspective it's a sin and you go to hell for eternity and the punishment you face is the way you killed yourself for all eternity.</span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>So like...lethal injections putting you to sleep repeatedly? Or double barrel shot-gunned to the head over and over? Any more info on this? Is it just that vague or do you get a small break inbetween?</div>

 

[Ansatsuken]

This comment makes no sense. It's not a trick question. If you're asking if something is a sin, you have to be look at it from a theist's/religious person's perspective and play, pun fully intended, Devil's Advocate. I'm an atheist and I can answer this easily.

The answer is yes. Murder is a sin because it's taking a life, heavy on the word taking. Because man is not the original giver of life, it's the equivalent of stealing from God, as all life come from and through him and his son. That includes your life. Sure, it's your life, but it ultimately came from and is through God, so you are not permitted to take it, or any life, unless it's something like self defense. This is why God can commit as many murders as he has and still be holy.

There is where you never understand how life and death work and how God control it.

In Islam(I dont know how other religions works on this matter) God already decide where the person will die and how they will die even before they were still a concept or sperm.

Something to share with you about human and path to life in Islam

"To find out where the creatures die, Allah has created Angels Arham will be instructed to enter the sperm in the mother's womb with the dust of the earth and will know where he was going to die and that is where later he is doomed to die.".

I know you're an atheist and never believe in this superstitious thingy but here if you want to accused Islamic God(Allah) as murderer for example, you're wrong because it already been decided from the beginning even before the human is created oh how he will die later in his/her life. How they die already been decided (suicide, old age, younger age, accident, being stab, being bomb, being shoot etc) and also only God know how to judge them, Its not sign of murder right?

If you logically think that what still a murder act from God, why God still need to created the human in the first place?

God have right to take a life of human bcus it was God own property not you or me and yet still can be accuse as murderer by you but our God already decided it. You see some death is gruesome or cruel but that's how they will die according to God and not to forget there is where the place the dust of earth is taken by Angels Arham.

 

[Punk Hazard]

There is where you never understand how life and death work and how God control it.

In Islam(I dont know how other religions works on this matter) God already decide where the person will die and how they will die even before they were still a concept or sperm.

Something to share with you about human and path to life in Islam

"To find out where the creatures die, Allah has created Angels Arham will be instructed to enter the sperm in the mother's womb with the dust of the earth and will know where he was going to die and that is where later he is doomed to die.".

I know you're an atheist and never believe in this superstitious thingy but here if you want to accused Islamic God(Allah) as murder for example, you're wrong because it already been decide from the beginning even before the human is created oh how he will die later in his/her life. How they die already been decide (suicide, old age, younger age, accident, being stab, being bomb, being shoot etc) and also only God know how to judge them, Its not sign of murder right?

If you logically think that what still a murder act from God, why God still need to created the human in the first place?

God have right to take a life of human bcus it was God own property not you or me and yet still can be accuse as murderer by you but our God already decide it. You see some death is gruesome or cruel but that's how they will die according to God and not to forget there is where the place the dust of earth is taken by Angels Arham.

This sounds gross.

 

[Ansatsuken]

This sounds gross.

Its a God afterall. If you was a God, you also can do anything, right and human cant question you?

Plus you have created an eternal afterlife world(heaven) where you never die and better than this world(this world just a temporary place according to Islamic teaching). Logically speaking sensible people will chose eternal life and eternal world than temporary world. What you saw as cruel murder by God actually just a God act to take people to other life/world.

But again you are an atheist and just believe all things in this earth only. Therefore I will not go hard to push you in thinking.

 

[Multiply]

Its a God afterall. If you was a God, you also can do anything right and human cant question you?

Plus you have created an eternal afterlife world(heaven) where you never die and better than this world(this world just a temporary place according to Islamic teaching). Logically speaking sensible people will chose eternal life and eternal world than temporary world. What you saw as cruel murder by God actually just a God act to take people to other life/world.

But again you are an atheist and just believe all things in this earth only. Therefore I will not go hard to push you in thinking.

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Bat shit detected.

 

[Ansatsuken]

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Bat shit detected.

I know its hard to comprehend something like this for you and other people with same minded as you. So be it.

What benefit I will get actually from forcing myself to change people or hope for their acceptance.

But just sharing something with Riker only. Peace and no hate

 

[Punk Hazard]

Its a God afterall. If you was a God, you also can do anything, right and human cant question you?

Definitely not what I'd be doing with divine power

Plus you have created an eternal afterlife world(heaven) where you never die and better than this world(this world just a temporary place according to Islamic teaching). Logically speaking sensible people will chose eternal life and eternal world than temporary world. What you saw as cruel murder by God actually just a God act to take people to other life/world.

I find the concept of living forever tedious and deplorable.

Therefore I will not go hard to push you in thinking.

People are you are why theists catch such shit about being bigoted idiots.

 

[Multiply]

I know its hard to comprehend something like this for you and other people with same minded as you. So be it.

What benefit I will get actually from forcing myself to change people or hope for their acceptance.

But just sharing something with Riker only. Peace and no hate

If I didn't comprehend it, how could I call you crazy for the bat shit crazy shit you've said above?

 

[Ansatsuken]

Definitely not what I'd be doing with divine power


I find the concept of living forever tedious and deplorable.


People are you are why theists catch such shit about being bigoted idiots.

@Bold. Care to explain how you build your thinking on this matter. I think it not being build overnight or second after you're born, many thing contributed to this thinking.

 

[Ansatsuken]

If I didn't comprehend it, how could I call you crazy for the bat shit crazy shit you've said above?

One day but not by me.

 

[Punk Hazard]

@Bold. Care to explain how you build your thinking on this matter. I think it not being build overnight or second after you're born, many thing contributed to this thinking.

Sorry, someone dumb enough to think a magic man created humans won't understand. I don't want to make you think.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Sorry, someone dumb enough to think a magic man created humans won't understand. I don't want to make you think.

Ok, I get it.

 

[iNotorious]

I guess it is but if the person just want to end their life, go ahead. They have their own reasons to do so and I have no power to stop that person for doing something that they desire.

 

[Jack Spicer]

I like to think it isn't, but I'm not sure. I really hope it isn't one though.

 

[Le0]

There is where you never understand how life and death work and how God control it.

In Islam(I dont know how other religions works on this matter) God already decide where the person will die and how they will die even before they were still a concept or sperm.

Something to share with you about human and path to life in Islam

"To find out where the creatures die, Allah has created Angels Arham will be instructed to enter the sperm in the mother's womb with the dust of the earth and will know where he was going to die and that is where later he is doomed to die.".

I know you're an atheist and never believe in this superstitious thingy but here if you want to accused Islamic God(Allah) as murderer for example, you're wrong because it already been decided from the beginning even before the human is created oh how he will die later in his/her life. How they die already been decided (suicide, old age, younger age, accident, being stab, being bomb, being shoot etc) and also only God know how to judge them, Its not sign of murder right?

If you logically think that what still a murder act from God, why God still need to created the human in the first place?

God have right to take a life of human bcus it was God own property not you or me and yet still can be accuse as murderer by you but our God already decided it. You see some death is gruesome or cruel but that's how they will die according to God and not to forget there is where the place the dust of earth is taken by Angels Arham.

To cut this short - a person can pray as much and as long as they want for their life to be extended /or/ to live long enough to see this or that but no matter what, their prayers will be rejected because their death has already been decided which automatically kills off any statements that God will answer his creations' prayers?

It also means that there are no free will, there are nothing you can do that can change what was already been set from before you were born?

Furthermore, a child is born but the next day, he/she dies - which is sensible, yeah? A person can pray as much as they want, they can do as much kindness as they want and they can have a far stronger will to live than Individual B (who is bad in every way) but when their time comes, the person will die at a young age while Individual B gets to grow old?

To put it simply - that's no different than saying God created murderers, created rapist, created criminals? It's no different than saying God created someone just so they can suffer eternal pain for no obvious reason whatsoever?

Awesome.

Just awesome.

 

[Ryu Kishi]

Well depends killing oneself is all good and great for the person that's doing it but what about the people you leave behind, they are the ones that are going to suffer the most. So yes it is a sin because its a selfish act.

 

[oxtopus]

Suicide is terrible on all fronts,who do you think you are that you think you have the right to kill yourself,life is a privilege and everyone is lucky to experience and have this wonderful thing called life,life is beautiful and no matter how shitty your life is you don't know what the future holds for you,have faith in God,so your soul can have eternal bliss in the afterlife.

 

[Jack Spicer]

Suicide is terrible on all fronts,who do you think you are that you think you have the right to kill yourself,life is a privilege and everyone is lucky to experience and have this wonderful thing called life,life is beautiful and no matter how shitty your life is you don't know what the future holds for you,have faith in God,so your soul can have eternal bliss in the afterlife.

I, honestly, cannot tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

 

[Le0]

Suicide is terrible on all fronts,who do you think you are that you think you have the right to kill yourself,life is a privilege and everyone is lucky to experience and have this wonderful thing called life,life is beautiful and no matter how shitty your life is you don't know what the future holds for you,have faith in God,so your soul can have eternal bliss in the afterlife.

An individual who has never walked in another individuals' shoes has no right to say "who do you think you are?".
Who do you think you are to say who do you think you are?
Who do you think you are?

 

[Karna]

Do you think a person will be able to still move onto a better place if they end their lives themself?

If you believe?

No, you still have to sort your problems out, except w/ less means and waiting for next round which takes like buzzlion years.