Unlimited 8th Guy vs Saitama?

[Ambivalence]

Crossing the distance between the Moon and the Earth in a matter of seconds puts him around relativistic speed, even when taking into consideration the fact that the Moon's gravity is lower, so his speed alone craps on anything shown in Naruto. He blitzes Gai before he even knows what's up, or he could just stand there and take it.

Although I will say Boros' final attack was definitely not planet-level.

 

[Apêx1]

Crossing the distance between the Moon and the Earth in a matter of seconds puts him around relativistic speed, even when taking into consideration the fact that the Moon's gravity is lower, so his speed alone craps on anything shown in Naruto. He blitzes Gai before he even knows what's up, or he could just stand there and take it.

Although I will say Boros' final attack was definitely not planet-level.

How do you know the bold? Pretty sure the author wants us to believe its planet level seeing how that's what Boros said, and Saitama countering it being the equivalent of him countering a planet level attack. At least that's the most accurate way you can interpret it in the manga's context.

 

[Brooks]

Crossing the distance between the Moon and the Earth in a matter of seconds puts him around relativistic speed, even when taking into consideration the fact that the Moon's gravity is lower, so his speed alone craps on anything shown in Naruto. He blitzes Gai before he even knows what's up, or he could just stand there and take it.

Although I will say Boros' final attack was definitely not planet-level.

Except they do with the feat of Naruto dodging Toneri's Kinrin Tensei Baku (The Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion), which was able to cut the moon in a second.

OT: Saitama beats Gai with mid-diff if he decides to use "Normal Punch", but he takes it with low-diff if he decides to stop playing and use "Serious Punch"...

How do you know the bold? Pretty sure the author wants us to believe its planet level seeing how that's what Boros said, and Saitama countering it being the equivalent of him countering a planet level attack. At least that's the most accurate way you can interpret it in the manga's context.

Because he isn't planet-level since he outright said "this Planet's surface", which makes him nothing more than a Life Wiper (aka continent level treat). Now, unless you think destroying a Planet's Surface makes you a Planet level treat, then there is no point in thinking he's anywhere near Planet level.

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[Ambivalence]

How do you know the bold? Pretty sure the author wants us to believe its planet level seeing how that's what Boros said, and Saitama countering it being the equivalent of him countering a planet level attack. At least that's the most accurate way you can interpret it in the manga's context.

It's funny that you mention the manga, because it's exactly there that Boros says his attack would only destroy the Earth's surface:

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Earth's surface =/= obliterating the whole planet. That, and the fact that the beam should have taken out a much more massive part of the Earth's atmosphere than what we saw. While it's true he's a planet life-wiper, since with the Earth's surface gone everyone's doomed for obvious reasons, his Collapsing Star: Roaring Cannon isn't a planet-level attack in terms of DC. Earth's surface = multi-continental level when we assume he meant land destruction, since 70% of the Earth is composed of oceans, seas - water in general. Lastly, in the Web Comic (which is also canon) Boros only says he'll erase Saitama off the face of the Earth [

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]. Out of all 3 versions of Boro's statement, the anime made him sound the strongest.

Except they do with the feat of Naruto dodging Toneri's Kinrin Tensei Baku (The Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion), which was able to cut the moon in a second.

What? :lol

1. Naruto never dodged the beam head-on, a.k.a aimed and fired at Naruto. Toneri activated Golden Wheel, the beam sprouted upwards like a sword, and then he thrust his arm down. All Naruto dodged was Toneri's hand movement speed.
2. The beam itself is not lightspeed, not even close. The first shot of Toneri activating it clearly portrays it, the second time Naruto blocked it shows it even better - Toneri activated the beam, then the shot goes back to Naruto who runs a few steps and then condenses his KCSM into his fist, punching the beam that was already fired. That took around 3 seconds, which being compared to LS is laughable.
3. Golden Wheel cutting the Moon in a second is irrelevant to anything.

Saitama beats Gai with mid-diff

Lmao. Sure, buddy.

Saitama could literally stand there and read a newspaper while Gai tries whatever he wants and then just throw a casual punch when he's bored and wants to end it. Gai's best feat is breaking the ribcage bones of a Juubi Jinchuriki and carrying him a few dozen meters. Saitama? He just took a beam that vaporizes humans and was like: ''meh", and was also kicked hundreds of thousands of kilometers without receiving any damage.

Gai gets negged.

 

[Brooks]

What? :lol

1. Naruto never dodged the beam head-on, a.k.a aimed and fired at Naruto. Toneri activated Golden Wheel, the beam sprouted upwards like a sword, and then he thrust his arm down. All Naruto dodged was Toneri's hand movement speed.
2. The beam itself is not lightspeed, not even close. The first shot of Toneri activating it clearly portrays it, the second time Naruto blocked it shows it even better - Toneri activated the beam, then the shot goes back to Naruto who runs a few steps and then condenses his KCSM into his fist, punching the beam that was already fired. That took around 3 seconds, which being compared to LS is laughable.
3. Golden Wheel cutting the Moon in a second is irrelevant to anything.

It was my fault for the dodging part, but rather what I meant was Naruto being able to react to the attack.

And in what sense is it irreverent again? I will wait take your time.

Lmao. Sure, buddy.

Saitama could literally stand there and read a newspaper while Gai tries whatever he wants and then just throw a casual punch when he's bored and wants to end it. Gai's best feat is breaking the ribcage bones of a Juubi Jinchuriki and carrying him a few dozen meters. Saitama? He just took a beam that vaporizes humans and was like: ''meh", and was also kicked hundreds of thousands of kilometers without receiving any damage.

Gai gets negged.

"Gai's best feat is breaking the ribcage bones of a Juubi Jinchuriki" hahaha...the downplaying is really in this one.

Gai's attack damaged Madara who outright took Naruto's Yōton Rasenshuriken (which was able to cut down the Shinju) and all of this happen after Madara took a beating from Gai.

With that being said....try and I mean "try" very hard next time.

 

[Ambivalence]

It was my adult for the reaction part, but rather what I meant was Naruto being able to react to attack.

Learn English, because I don't even understand what this means. Naruto reacting to a beam that is nowhere near lightspeed or relativistc is impressive... how? When you give me a feat matching Saitama's sub-relativistic speed feat (crossing the distance between the Moon and the Earth in seconds), then we'll talk. Currently all you're giving me is a laser beam that not only is nowhere near the speed you think it is, but that only speaks for Naruto's reaction time, not his speed.

Naruto characters cap out at massively hypersonic in terms of movement speed. The gap between that and relativistic is immense, by the way.

Gai's best feat is breaking the ribcage bones of a Juubi Jinchuriki" hahaha...the downplaying is really in this one.

How is it downplaying when that's his best feat? Smh.

Gai's attack damaged Madara who outright took Naruto's Yōton Rasenshuriken (which was able to cut down the Shinju) and all of this happen after Madara took a beating from Gai.

So? What's this supposed to prove? How's Naruto's LRS cutting the Shinjuu (which is crap in terms of durability, considering even Mifune had no problems of cutting branches with a regular sword) supposed to say Madara is so tough that Gai's attack would have to be out of NV's limits to hurt him? And lol, after Madara was immobilized by the four Air Canon blasts he immediately coughed out blood, while Saitama was taking punishment from a much faster and stronger character than Gai with no problem. Never even had a scratch, only his clothes were ripped. How in the hell does this prove Gai will do something to Saitama, who's tanked attacks that are completely out of Night Gai and LRS's league?

 

[Brooks]

Learn English, because I don't even understand what this means. Naruto reacting to a beam that is nowhere near lightspeed or relativistc is impressive... how? When you give me a feat matching Saitama's sub-relativistic speed feat (crossing the distance between the Moon and the Earth in seconds), then we'll talk. Currently all you're giving me is a laser beam that not only is nowhere near the speed you think it is, but that only speaks for Naruto's reaction time, not his speed.

I don't need to learn English since that's the only language I speak, write and read....so, with statements such as "Learn English" you might as well stop trying act intelligent. Anyway, I am using my phone you and I already edit it, but that takes brain cells to realize it. And where are you getting this lightspeed or relativistic feat for Saitama when the feat (traveling from the moon to earth in a matter of seconds) was Sub-Relativistic? Please, take that lightspeed shi-t elsewhere.

Naruto characters cap out at massively hypersonic in terms of movement speed. The gap between that and relativistic is immense, by the way.

No, Naruto characters (God tiers) are Mach 17,000 (which makes them Sub-Relativistic).

How is it downplaying when that's his best feat? Smh.

Because you speak as if his feat his shi-t compare to Saitama.

So? What's this supposed to prove? How's Naruto's LRS cutting the Shinjuu (which is crap in terms of durability, considering even Mifune had no problems of cutting branches with a regular sword) supposed to say Madara is so tough that Gai's attack would have to be out of NV's limits to hurt him? And lol, after Madara was immobilized by the four Air Canon blasts he immediately coughed out blood, while Saitama was taking punishment from a much faster and stronger character than Gai with no problem. Never even had a scratch, only his clothes were ripped. How in the hell does this prove Gai will do something to Saitama, who's tanked attacks that are completely out of Night Gai and LRS's league?

Maybe because the Shinju ripped off

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(Six Crimson Ray Formation...created by Juubito) with ease (something that was able to tank 4 Juubidamas from Juubito)....if it had this so call "crap durability", then it would have contained the Shinju. Coughing blood? and how is that relevant when Madara took his attacks and kept coming back?

 

[Lord Tywin]

You smell some funny stuff when someone says Saitama can "Mid Diff" Gai, which is absolutely ridiculous. Mid diff would mean Gai giving some trouble to Saitama, while the gap between the power and speed between the two character is so huge. From Saitama being sent to the moon and not even saying "ouch" to casually jumping from the moon back to Earth in a second. Not to mention far overpowering a multi continental beam with a punch and shitting on an enemy with far superior regeneration to the likes of Madara or Kaguya with its after shock. And Saitama did all of that without even "trying". Anyone that ever tries to put OPM against NV needs to go back and read OPM clearly.

OPM will probably continue to where Saitama will be fighting galaxy busting enemies or God himself.

 

[Ambivalence]

I don't need to learn English since that's the only language I speak, write and read....so, with statements such as "Learn English" you might as well stop trying act intelligent. Anyway, I am using my phone you and I already edit it, but that takes brain cells to realize it. And where are you getting this lightspeed or relativistic feat for Saitama when the feat (traveling from the moon to earth in a matter of seconds) was Sub-Relativistic? Please, take that lightspeed shi-t elsewhere.

Not gonna address the insults, makes me realize what kind of person I'm dealing with. I never said Saitama was lightspeed, unless you care to quote me, so don't put words in my mouth. I only used LS since you seemed to imply Naruto dodged a lightspeed beam (even though he didn't, nor was the beam lightspeed), which would obviously put Naruto above Saitama, which, in turn, was obviously your trail of thought, a dead-wrong one at that. I used relativistic for the same reason - LS and relativistic are what's required for a Naruto character to be faster than Saitama, even though that's probably not even Saitama's full speed, but I'll leave it at the confirmed sub-relativistic.

No, Naruto characters (God tiers) are Mach 17,000 (which makes them Sub-Relativistic).

Mach 17,000 makes them massively hypersonic, not sub-relativistic. OBD and Narutoforums both confirm this. You can stop posting fanfic.

Because you speak as if his feat his shi-t compare to Saitama.

Because it is. I'll break it down:

1. One character broke Madara's ribcage and blew off some of his torso, while the force carried them both a few meters [

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]. Madara then regenerated the part that was blown off and said he was almost killed.
2. The other character knee-kicked Saitama with enough force to send him 380,000 kilometers away, with enough blunt force trauma from the impact to turn a normal human into paste, at best. Saitama stood up without a scratch.

So do explain how the hell does #1 compare to #2. Absolutely no physical attack in Naruto can match Boros' kick, no matter how you try to twist it, let alone Night Gai.

Maybe because the Shinju ripped off

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(Six Crimson Ray Formation...created by Juubito) with ease (something that was able to tank 4 Juubidamas from Juubito)....if it had this so call "crap durability", then it would have contained the Shinju.

Lmao. You can't even begin to explain how that's a feat of durability, probably because you don't know yourself. The Shinjuu broke through the barrier because it was immensely bigger than it, there was no way that small barrier (in comparison to it) could've withstood something of

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bursting out. This speaks jack about its durability. Do tell how

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and a

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are able to easily cut it. Oh, right, because its durability is, in actuality, nothing special. And what's the last sentence even supposed to mean? You're talking about the Red Barrier's durability when the Shinjuu's is what I'm talking about. The Shinjuu ripping out of the barrier because of its size means nothing for the former's durability. When it actually tanks 4 Juubidama, then we can talk.

Coughing blood? and how is that relevant when Madara took his attacks and kept coming back?

It's relevant because he always had an opportunity to regenerate and because Saitama never had a bruise on him, unlike Madara who was almost killed. This speaks volumes about the difference between the two in terms of taking punishment, not to mention Boros is physically stronger and faster than Gai. With that in mind, Saitama's durability craps on Madara's when the latter's regeneration isn't taken into account. Oh, by the way, I shouldn't even need to argue this, but Gai still has only only one shot with Night Gai - his leg breaks after he uses it, and the OP only says he can sustain the Gate forever, not have unbreakable limbs. So Gai attacks, fails miserably, and Saitama just leaves - Gai then dies on his own.

Anyway, go and read OPM, because you clearly have no idea how far ahead Saitama is from Gai in terms of... well, everything.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Beats NV naturally. Might be stupid and proud enough to fall for Izanami or any of the more powerful genjutsus though.

Gurren Lagann, Tenchi, Darren Shanverse etc still babyshake him and all of DBZ though.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Not gonna address the insults, makes me realize what kind of person I'm dealing with. I never said Saitama was lightspeed, unless you care to quote me, so don't put words in my mouth. I only used LS since you seemed to imply Naruto dodged a lightspeed beam (even though he didn't, nor was the beam lightspeed), which would obviously put Naruto above Saitama, which, in turn, was obviously your trail of thought, a dead-wrong one at that. I used relativistic for the same reason - LS and relativistic are what's required for a Naruto character to be faster than Saitama, even though that's probably not even Saitama's full speed, but I'll leave it at the confirmed sub-relativistic.



Mach 17,000 makes them massively hypersonic, not sub-relativistic. OBD and Narutoforums both confirm this. You can stop posting fanfic.



Because it is. I'll break it down:

1. One character broke Madara's ribcage and blew off some of his torso, while the force carried them both a few meters [

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]. Madara then regenerated the part that was blown off and said he was almost killed.
2. The other character knee-kicked Saitama with enough force to send him 380,000 kilometers away, with enough blunt force trauma from the impact to turn a normal human into paste, at best. Saitama stood up without a scratch.

So do explain how the hell does #1 compare to #2. Absolutely no physical attack in Naruto can match Boros' kick, no matter how you try to twist it, let alone Night Gai.



Lmao. You can't even begin to explain how that's a feat of durability, probably because you don't know yourself. The Shinjuu broke through the barrier because it was immensely bigger than it, there was no way that small barrier (in comparison to it) could've withstood something of

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bursting out. This speaks jack about its durability. Do tell how

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,

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,

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and a

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are able to easily cut it. Oh, right, because its durability is, in actuality, nothing special. And what's the last sentence even supposed to mean? You're talking about the Red Barrier's durability when the Shinjuu's is what I'm talking about. The Shinjuu ripping out of the barrier because of its size means nothing for the former's durability. When it actually tanks 4 Juubidama, then we can talk.



It's relevant because he always had an opportunity to regenerate and because Saitama never had a bruise on him, unlike Madara who was almost killed. This speaks volumes about the difference between the two in terms of taking punishment, not to mention Boros is physically stronger and faster than Gai. With that in mind, Saitama's durability craps on Madara's when the latter's regeneration isn't taken into account. Oh, by the way, I shouldn't even need to argue this, but Gai still has only only one shot with Night Gai - his leg breaks after he uses it, and the OP only says he can sustain the Gate forever, not have unbreakable limbs. So Gai attacks, fails miserably, and Saitama just leaves - Gai then dies on his own.

Anyway, go and read OPM, because you clearly have no idea how far ahead Saitama is from Gai in terms of... well, everything.

The thing is that the aftershock from Saitama's punch takes a planetary shit on anything Gai has shown to produce.

 

[EZQ]

Yes DBZ characters can do high-end destruction with their energy based attacks. Doesn't mean they're physically anywhere near that level. Saitama is far above them on a stats stand point and would blitz the shit out of any of them based on it taking Goku 177 days to cross 1 million kilometers (snake way) versus Saitama crossing half that distance (moon to earth is 400k kilometers+) INSTANTLY. There's a huge gap in speed between the Goku that shit on Nappa and Saitama. This means if it took Saitama 5 seconds to come from the moon to the Earth, Saitama is about 3 million+ times faster than this particular Goku. SSj2 is much faster than that Goku, but nothing comparable to Saitama's feat at all.

Yes but, at the same time, we have characters tanking moon buster attacks. Nappa laughed at Piccolo's ki blasts, which were able to destroy the moon.

So unless saitama's punches > Moon level, he would blitz without result.

 

[Apêx1]

It's funny that you mention the manga, because it's exactly there that Boros says his attack would only destroy the Earth's surface:

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Earth's surface =/= obliterating the whole planet. That, and the fact that the beam should have taken out a much more massive part of the Earth's atmosphere than what we saw. While it's true he's a planet life-wiper, since with the Earth's surface gone everyone's doomed for obvious reasons, his Collapsing Star: Roaring Cannon isn't a planet-level attack in terms of DC. Earth's surface = multi-continental level when we assume he meant land destruction, since 70% of the Earth is composed of oceans, seas - water in general. Lastly, in the Web Comic (which is also canon) Boros only says he'll erase Saitama off the face of the Earth [

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]. Out of all 3 versions of Boro's statement, the anime made him sound the strongest.

Ah I misread that chapter, my bad.

Yes but, at the same time, we have characters tanking moon buster attacks. Nappa laughed at Piccolo's ki blasts, which were able to destroy the moon.

So unless saitama's punches > Moon level, he would blitz without result.

Bro, please don't grasp at straws. If you don't know Kai blasts are a million times weaker than moon level than you shouldn't call yourself a DBZ fan. CELL'S Kai blasts barely destroy the ground [

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], SSJ Goku Kai blast BARRAGE barely does a large explosion [

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]. Hell, even Mecha Frieze's attacks were half-decent compared to mountain level let alone moon level [

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]. Yes, I know Kai blasts have done much more than this, but the LARGE MAJORITY of the time it's Hill level at best. Saying it's mountain range level or moon level from the 2 or 3 feats it has versus the 500 feats suggesting otherwise is fallacious. And anyways, we already know Nappa got hurt by a tiny attack [

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] and would've been shit on by Krillin's destructo disk. Do you really believe if you were to turn Krillin's attack into a large AOE explosion it would have enough energy to engulf a 10th of the moon? No, Goku's done a lot of punches in the past and NONE of them come ANYWHERE near this [

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] or the shockwave he generated from jumping in LOW gravity [

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]. No reason whatsoever to believe any character can withstand a kick from Saitama based on the leg drive he exerted on the moon, nor a direct punch based off of the shockwave released. Only SSj3 Goku and beyond can shit on him by outlasting, as I said before (because they can't perceive his speed pre-god levels).

 

[Unorthodox]

Yes DBZ characters can do high-end destruction with their energy based attacks. Doesn't mean they're physically anywhere near that level. Saitama is far above them on a stats stand point and would blitz the shit out of any of them based on it taking Goku 177 days to cross 1 million kilometers (snake way) versus Saitama crossing half that distance (moon to earth is 400k kilometers+) INSTANTLY. There's a huge gap in speed between the Goku that shit on Nappa and Saitama. This means if it took Saitama 5 seconds to come from the moon to the Earth, Saitama is about 3 million+ times faster than this particular Goku. SSj2 is much faster than that Goku, but nothing comparable to Saitama's feat at all.

Quit being silly as i said before ep 10 piccolo blasted away the moon with no where near his full power that same attack used on earth would cause catastrophic things to happen that's basically on par with Boros strongest attack which saitama needed 1 serious punch to deflect. Piccolo was at a higher state of power during his fight with the saiyans (Saiyans arc) and you talk about saitama jumping from the moon piccolo blast reached the moon in less time than saitama jumping from it.

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All in a single chapter, nappa could dodge faster blast attacks (Special beam cannon)

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he also tanked piccolo attacks to an extent which are are moon level plus.

Saitama only has destructive power he's not even close to putting down nappa who was 1 shotted by kaioken goku basically.

Stop with even bringing any SSJ saiyan into this argument namiken arc Goku was so faze a guy who proclaimed to be a fast a light could not even comprehend his speed.

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Putting it simple

SSJ2 Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Androids - 17/18>>SSJ Vegeta = SSJ Goku > Frieza >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Namek Goku (Pre Frieza fight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recome >>>>>>>> Vegeta>> Zarbon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nappa > OPM Verse let alone saitama.

Who is Saitama and what series is he from? Y'all comparing him to DBZ? He must got some serious skills. I doubt he's a challenge for Whis though. I don't know a single anime character stronger than him bar LuckyMan.

kaioken Goku could solo that whole verse he's not even in the same stratosphere as whis

 

[Apêx1]

Quit being silly as i said before ep 10 piccolo blasted away the moon with no where near his full power that same attack used on earth would cause catastrophic things to happen that's basically on par with Boros strongest attack which saitama needed 1 serious punch to deflect. Piccolo was at a higher state of power during his fight with the saiyans (Saiyans arc) and you talk about saitama jumping from the moon piccolo blast reached the moon in less time than saitama jumping from it.

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All in a single chapter, nappa could dodge faster blast attacks (Special beam cannon)

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he also tanked piccolo attacks to an extent which are are moon level plus.

Saitama only has destructive power he's not even close to putting down nappa who was 1 shotted by kaioken goku basically.

Stop with even bringing any SSJ saiyan into this argument namiken arc Goku was so faze a guy who proclaimed to be a fast a light could not even comprehend his speed.

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Putting it simple

SSJ2 Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Androids - 17/18>>SSJ Vegeta = SSJ Goku > Frieza >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Namek Goku (Pre Frieza fight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recome >>>>>>>> Vegeta>> Zarbon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nappa > OPM Verse let alone saitama.




kaioken Goku could solo that whole verse he's not even in the same stratosphere as whis

I ignored you the first time for a reason, I'm not wasting time on a retard.

 

[Unorthodox]

I ignored you the first time for a reason, I'm not wasting time on a retard.

Except you did not ignore me and stfu with this crying got damn y'all whine to much 1st form frieza destroyed a planet much bigger than earth that alone puts him tiers above saitama now stfu.