[VS] EMS Sasuke and War Arc Kakashi VS. Edo Madara and Obito

[Ootoriyu Jin]

Conditions: Obito can use the Gedo, Madara has no Edo regen and Kakashi and Sasuke have V1 Kyuubi cloak
Intel: Full
Location: Madara VS. Gokage
Distance: 60m
Restrictions: Sasuke PS, Madara's Susanoo, Bijuus and Obito and Kakashi can't fight in Kamui dimension.

S2: Sasuke's PS is unrestricted

 

[KidGamer65]

V1 cloak is a useless addition for Kakashi since Obito can negate Kamui, and the rest of his arsenal is useless even when powered up. V1 cloak does make Sasuke's Susanoo quite a bit stronger though, however Madara would easily be able to handle it. Mokuryu can tango with Kurama, so he'd manhandle any Susanoo bar PS. A lightened Meteor and a full sized Meteor obliterated Madara's V3 Susanoo and his body without a direct hit. So if Madara drops 2 Full sized Meteors that they can't slow down or destroy directly on top of their heads, Susanoo would either take heavy damage or be destroyed along with Sasuke and Kakashi. If it takes heavy damage then Madara either drops another one if he can or he cleans the rest up with Mokuryu.

Madara can solo. Obito can't, but with his help it's a low-mid diff at best.

If this is the Kyuubi cloak that Sasuke got in canon.....then him and Obito win. Madara can't do anything to that Susanoo without a Susanoo of his own, Gedo Mazo isn't taking it out either. S

 

[Oblivionx]

madara and obito should win mid diff if madara can use base hashirama level mokuton since his susano is restricted altogether.. kakashi can't beat obito alone. it's kinda unbalanced match up. swapping obito with kakashi might make it interesting...

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

V1 cloak is a useless addition for Kakashi since Obito can negate Kamui, and the rest of his arsenal is useless even when powered up. V1 cloak does make Sasuke's Susanoo quite a bit stronger though, however Madara would easily be able to handle it. Mokuryu can tango with Kurama, so he'd manhandle any Susanoo bar PS. A lightened Meteor and a full sized Meteor obliterated Madara's V3 Susanoo and his body without a direct hit. So if Madara drops 2 Full sized Meteors that they can't slow down or destroy directly on top of their heads, Susanoo would either take heavy damage or be destroyed along with Sasuke and Kakashi. If it takes heavy damage then Madara either drops another one if he can or he cleans the rest up with Mokuryu.

Madara can solo. Obito can't, but with his help it's a low-mid diff at best.

If this is the Kyuubi cloak that Sasuke got in canon.....then him and Obito win. Madara can't do anything to that Susanoo without a Susanoo of his own, Gedo Mazo isn't taking it out either. S

How about S2 when Sasuke has his PS?

 

[KidGamer65]

How about S2 when Sasuke has his PS?

His only issue would be getting past Kamui, but with Kakashi's help he should be fine. Madara gets demolished by PS if he doesn't have his Susanoo.

 

[BLAZE]

will be honest i totally forgot about Madara's wood release

 

[Unorthodox]

Obito can negate Kamui,

Madara can solo.

Obito only negated it once and failed to do so every other instant,

Kakashi could warp juubi he warps both of those meteors along with Madara in one snipe

 

[EZQ]

Obito only negated it once and failed to do so every other instant,

Kakashi could warp juubi he warps both of those meteors along with Madara in one snipe

Nope.

When it comes to big objects, Kakashi's kamui is slower and Obito can stop it.

The times he didn't do it, it was Kakashi was warping small objects, which didn't give Obito enough time to react and cancel it. I don't know what kind of argument "he only did it once" is. If he did it once it means he can do it.

 

[ARGUS]

S1: Madara and Obito win low diff

--kamui gets reacted to and blocked by mokuton. Mokuton clones smack around kakashi and he eventually gets mowed down by a susanoo blade. Obito being there shuts kakashi out completely.

--sasukes V4 susanoo is not countering flower tree world. mokuryu, ST or preta stop any attempts of counter attacking. and sasuke gets put down to sleep.

--tengai shinsei one shots both of them as well. any ninjutsu thrown at it can be stopped by madara levitating and absorbing it with preta, sasuke gets crushed by the giiant meteors

S2: Sasuke can probably solo, since madaras mokuton is not powerful enough to combat PS and six path jutsus doesnt do shit against it. meteors get crushed by PS slashes as well.
obito then gets wrecked by sasuek and kakashi together