[Discussion] Rant about Sanji

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Doesn't make it any better.

They trained for 2 years so they wouldn't get in these kinds of situations with top tiers and now you want me to ok with the fact that they're being powerless against ****ing Capone and his mostly fodder crew?
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Please stop *****ing after chapter 1 of the arc. This is getting pretty dumb. Would it make for a more interesting story if Sanji beat him before he could explain his Devil fruit. Would that be fast enough.

Or maybe during his introduction. I'm Capone Be...*BAM* kick to the face. Supernova down. Next chapter.
 

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Mfw nothing wrong with that.


Getting in situations like this is unavoidable. Doesn't matter how strong you are, even Whitebeard was susceptible to being jumped.

I'm really glad people posting like you aren't writing this story, since apparently you want the SHs to punk any top tiers they come across. That would be an incredibly lame and boring story. The Strawhats encounter people close to their level? No, let's not have them engage in conflict, let's have the Strawhats just ROLL through, that's wayyyy more interesting and entertaining to watch. That's sarcasm, btw, since I'm sure you'll need to be told that.

Luffy and Zoro couldn't prevent top tiers like Doflamingo and Fujitora from kidnapping Law. I don't see you complaining and ranting about that like you are about Sanji letting the other SHs getting kidnapped by someone on their level. The fact of the matter is, Sanji attempting to charge them would be an idea only an idiot would think is a good one because Brook, Nami, and Chopper were being held hostage. They're against a strong enemy that JUST surprised them with a power they couldn't have imagined him possessing, and had no idea what else he was capable of.

Why would it possibly be a good idea to charge people whose strength and abilities are unknown to you, who are surrounding you, and who have the weakest members of your crew hostage? Also, Capone said he had cannons stored in his body. How was Sanji to know he didn't have other large scale weapons like bombs, or other strong people stored up in hiding?
What if he had this, what if he had that? It doesn't matter when your crew is being held hostage and could be killed on a whim. Be strong so you don't get into that situation in the first place. Neither Luffy nor Zoro would let Capone play them like that and they would protect their crew while taking care of these fodders. If Sanji was facing Kizaru for example and was surrounded by Vice-admirals I'd understand but this wasn't Kizaru. Only top tiers should put them in that kind of danger, infact it's precisely the reason they trained for 2 years. So they wouldn't be as helpless as they were in Sabaody.
 

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What if he had this, what if he had that? It doesn't matter when your crew is being held hostage and could be killed on a whim.
Which is exactly why Sanji bumrushing him is a terrible idea. The crewmembers can be killed on a whim, and Sanji has no idea what he has.
Be strong so you don't get into that situation in the first place
Whitebeard.

Neither Luffy nor Zoro would let Capone play them like that
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Whoops, looks like they got punked by people weaker than Capone instead.

and they would protect their crew while taking care of these fodders. If Sanji was facing Kizaru for example and was surrounded by Vice-admirals I'd understand but this wasn't Kizaru. Only top tiers should put them in that kind of danger, infact it's precisely the reason they trained for 2 years. So they wouldn't be as helpless as they were in Sabaody.
Because there's no way any other Supernova could be near to them in power.
 

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They were surrounded in a ****ing ambush. Enticing violence would be a stupid move, especially when Nami, Chopper, and Brook weren't even supposed to be in that area.


That only happened because Sanji's body was critically wounded.

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Zoro would have been ****ed up by Doflamingo just as badly as Sanji was.
^^^^^ That injury crap is actually one of the biggest plotholes in the manga, since it literally became irrelevant after that scene.

And on what basis would Zoro have been ****ed up by Doffy just as badly as Sanji was??
 
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^^^^^ That injury crap is actually one of the biggest plotholes in the manga, since it literally became irrelevant after that scene.

And on what basis would Zoro have been ****ed up by Doffy just as badly as Sanji was??
Or-OR-It's why Vergo was able to crack his leg.

On what basis would he not have been? Fuji ****ed Zoro up and Doflamingo is close to his level, so more or less the same would happen to Zoro.
 

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Sanji was fresh, Sanji is faster than Capone and im sure physically stronger.
So if he's fresh, faster and stronger then there is no problem right ? He's just scouting out the possibilities. Besides he went to talk to make peace with the Big Mom pirates, because talking yourself out of a fight with a yonkou is the sensible thing to do.

And if that fails he can still kick his ass, because he is fresh, faster and stronger right ? That's why Sanji is the smart character. He uses his head, and I understand that it might be hard to follow for some people here.

Also calling him fodder in all the threads you post is sad man, I see those posts with those links you placed have been deleted, as per my instructions. You really shouldn't lower yourself to start flame wars and use homophobic texts, does not help the image you already have.

But I think that I know what's wrong, you need to eat more sugar because you're super salty that it's the year of Sanji, and you will be seeing him ALL YEAR in the main story line!
 

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Not really... Capone would've found a way to deal with Sanji to make him surrender. He wasn't trying to start a big fight, since he was on the island of minks.
All I saw was a bunch of assumptions, if Nami and Chopper weren't there and Capone tried something he would of fought. Brook was the only one with Sanji for this reason most likely.
 

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All I saw was a bunch of assumptions, if Nami and Chopper weren't there and Capone tried something he would of fought. Brook was the only one with Sanji for this reason most likely.
Really ?? then you clearly didn't see clearly. There was at best only 1 assumption in my post.

1. They could've easily jumped onto the building and gotten Nami and Chopper that way still.

2. Sanji himself was surrounded, unless you have some sort of a God-feat from Sanji, he isn't beating a Supernova's entire crew, even with brook.

3. Capone again was not trying to cause a big fight, and was looking for the simplest solution to getting Sanji to come with them.




Or-OR-It's why Vergo was able to crack his leg.

On what basis would he not have been? Fuji ****ed Zoro up and Doflamingo is close to his level, so more or less the same would happen to Zoro.
Or-or-or.. you can reread my post, as it didn't mention anything about Vergo cracking his leg, but the injuries being part of the biggest plothole in the series << something you don't need to be a PhD doctor to see.


There is literally nothing in the manga indicating Doflamingo is close to Fujitora's level. Unless he is now magically close to the Yonko (the people who admirals rival) as well. If this is your basis, then its just big a fallacy.
 
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Really ?? then you clearly didn't see clearly. There was at best only 1 assumption in my post.

1. They could've easily jumped onto the building and gotten Nami and Chopper that way still.

2. Sanji himself was surrounded, unless you have some sort of a God-feat from Sanji, he isn't beating a Supernova's entire crew, even with brook.

3. Capone again was not trying to cause a big fight, and was looking for the simplest solution to getting Sanji to come with them.





Or-or-or.. you can reread my post, as it didn't mention anything about Vergo cracking his leg, but the injuries being part of the biggest plothole in the series << something you don't need to be a PhD doctor to see.


There is literally nothing in the manga indicating Doflamingo is close to Fujitora's level. Unless he is now magically close to the Yonko (the people who admirals rival) as well. If this is your basis, then its just big a fallacy.
OR Oda didn't think he'd need to spoon-feed you,that if Sanji's body was stated to be weaker and injured prior, then it's the reason he received an injury he shouldn't have later. It doesn't need to be stated again, you should be smart enough to connect the dots. You say there was no indication his damaged body was still a thing, his shin being cracked IS the indication.

Doflamingo, while in a weakened state, shrugged off attacks that were bruising Fujitora, though Fuji was holding back. That alone indicates that Luffy and Fuji are much closer to likes of Admirals than we thought.
 

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What the hell is going on with this dude? You had Capone making everybody his *****. He took Nami and Chopper hostages but what did Sanji do? Nothing, he can't even protect his crew if the situation calls for it. I thought this was going to be Sanji's year but how will he get any development when he gets done dirty everytime we see him? Also I'm over his pandering of every female creature he sees. It's not fun anymore. The rest of the year seems like Sanji is going to get the Robin treatment and force the strawhats to rescue him on some Princess Peach shit. Quir ****ing with him Oda.
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Hold your horses mate. I made the rational decision. That bastard had nami-swaaaan!!! <3 I couldn't allow any harm to come to her. I voluntarily left with these bastards to settle things. Do not worry Luffy, i will be back soon.




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Or-OR-It's why Vergo was able to crack his leg.

On what basis would he not have been? Fuji ****ed Zoro up and Doflamingo is close to his level, so more or less the same would happen to Zoro.
Doflamingo stopped Diable Jambe with his leg with no problem whatsoever. Fujitora unsheathed his blade to stop Doffy's kick. He did the same to Zoro's strike and got sent back.

Conclusion: Zoro's flying strike>Doflamingo's kick>>>>Sanji's Diable Jambe.
 

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Doflamingo stopped Diable Jambe with his leg with no problem whatsoever. Fujitora unsheathed his blade to stop Doffy's kick. He did the same to Zoro's strike and got sent back.

Conclusion: Zoro's flying strike>Doflamingo's kick>>>>Sanji's Diable Jambe.
Let me add to it !

Doflamingo wasn't able to crack Sanji's leg.

Vergo >>>>> Zoro's flying strike>Doflamingo's kick>>>>Sanji's Diable Jambe

Now piss off again, your A>B>C theory is soooo 2010. If you want to troll at least do it right.
 

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Let me add to it !

Doflamingo wasn't able to crack Sanji's leg.

Vergo >>>>> Zoro's flying strike>Doflamingo's kick>>>>Sanji's Diable Jambe

Now piss off again, your A>B>C theory is soooo 2010. If you want to troll at least do it right.
Sanji wasn't using Diable Jambe on Vergo then and he was blocking, not attacking. Your logic is so 1945. Still Zoro would've destroyed Vergo without getting a scratch on his blades, cut him in half like Law did and we've seen him cut giant Pica in half so he can.
 
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Sanji wasn't using Diable Jambe on Vergo then and he was blocking, not attacking. Your logic is so 1945. Still Zoro would've destroyed Vergo without getting a scratch on his blades, cut him in half like Law did and we've seen him cut giant Pica in half so he can.
Diable Jambe doesn't make the leg stronger it adds to the power of it. So why didn't Sanji's leg break when he kicked Doffy's leg that didn't budge with an attack that is arguably faster than Vergo's ?

See you can't compare shit like that.

Also giant Pica was made of stone, we've seen Zoro do that since Alabasta. Ok it was on a nice big scale, but still you can't compare it to Vergo.

Pica's skill was fighting with his Devil fruit power, and Vergo was closed ranged combat. Without Law's DF ability Smoker, Sanji and Law were all powerless to take down Vergo. The aftershock of Vergo's Onitake bend a steel door.

But of course Zoro would solo him no problem right, because the only reason Oda makes a new group of Supernova's before the timeskip is so that wankers like you can put him at the top of that list right after the timeskip.

You've got no prove at all that Zoro's haki is stronger than Vergo's. Zoro's one little feat of pushing back Fujitora has some people here believing that he can beat an admiral. And if that is not enough people in other threads think he is also capable of beating Doflamingo.

All based on what ? For the same reason you're shitting on Sanji in this thread. A lack of feats. On Fishman island he got to showcase new tricks but wasn't tested like anyone else. On Punk Hazard he fought a lab assistant. And now in Dressrosa he beat a top executive. Something Kyros, Law and Luffy also did.

As for breaking the statue, Don chinjao and the King of prodence were able to reproduce that feat as well.

The only people that showed impressive feats since the timeskip were Luffy and Law, the rest is still hidden for the bigger story to come. But to claim that Zoro's slashes are stronger than Doflamingo's kicks are enough to get you locked up in a mental hospital.

I just got ignored XD
Oh don't worry that's what he does when he doesn't have an answer to save his ass.

Look on the previous page where he has this big mouth about weak Sanji got captured and that almighty Zoro would fight his way out of the situation.

But after I posted the picture where almighty Zoro got put in a cage by Hody's cronies, he was nowhere to be found.

Or maybe we will be hearing in the next post that Hody > supernova's and that Hody is stronger than Fujitora because he didn't get pushed back by Zoro's slash. Because one slash is the benchmark to put the entire One Piece world in perspective.
 
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Sanji wasn't using Diable Jambe on Vergo then and he was blocking, not attacking. Your logic is so 1945. Still Zoro would've destroyed Vergo without getting a scratch on his blades, cut him in half like Law did and we've seen him cut giant Pica in half so he can.
Diable Jambe doesn't make his leg any stronger. That's why it worked against Tekkai. Sanji literally said "Since I can't smash through it(sheer power), I'll burn through it." His leg was the same strength, DJ just gives it the added boost of literal firepower.

One can just as easily say that Sanji could have destroyed Vergo if his body wasn't weakened due to Nami.
 
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