[Discussion] Zoro & killer vs

[nanadaime]

Who can defeat this duo that isn't an admiral or yonko

 

[Bimbonium]

Jack and other Yonko first mates. We've not seen enough out of killer so I'm guessing he's just around Zoro's level (or slightly lower)

 

[giostep]

Dont know much about killer.
So im still going to say Doffy.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

doffy easily prob mid to semi high diff both char seem to focus on close combat etc.. doffy can easily evade them and he also put sanji in parasite who shouldnt be that far from these 2 even so he still in cannon put jozu in parasite so neither of these char r stronger then jozu... so with that being said doffy sits on his throne while he controls either zoro or killer to fight off the other

i think the lowest person that can take these 2 out would be gear 4th luffy

and perhaps law if and only if he can shambles personalites from the get go or is very far away tho if its regular distance i doubt he can do this so yeah gonna say gear 4th luffy (or vista)

 

[Hexuze]

Vista or Jozu maybe.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

First mates of a yonkou crew and mihawk have that kind of chance.

 

[Insidious Smile]

Jack and Doflamingo.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Jack and other Yonko first mates. We've not seen enough out of killer so I'm guessing he's just around Zoro's level (or slightly lower)

And we've seen enough out of Jack? In one showing?

 

[KingHashirama]

can't really say.. without fully seeing their feats. BUT should be able to take out doffy.

 

[Bimbonium]

And we've seen enough out of Jack? In one showing?

Wait wut? Are you saying Killer should be waaay greater than Zoro or waaay less than Zoro or that Jack is Zoro's level or what?
We know Jack's bounty and the fact that he sunk 2 ships and the fact that he fought for 5 days.....
we don't know killers new bounty but it sure ain't up to Jack's even when added with Zoro's.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Wait wut? Are you saying Killer should be waaay greater than Zoro or waaay less than Zoro or that Jack is Zoro's level or what?
We know Jack's bounty and the fact that he sunk 2 ships and the fact that he fought for 5 days.....
we don't know killers new bounty but it sure ain't up to Jack's even when added with Zoro's.

I'm saying we don't know enough about Jack or Killer to accurately assess this. Jack sunk 2 ships and...? Law lifted multiple ships out of the water, you think dropping them back down into it wouldn't sink them? Luffy broke over half of Noah a ship that dwarves Marine ships, you think he couldn't sink two of them with Gear 3 armament haki Grizzly Magnums? or Gear 4?

Bounties don't equate strength either and it seems evident, by how high Ace's bounty was despite how weak people here claim him to have been compared to newer characters, that simply being a Yonkou subordinate grants you a boost in bounty. The only impressive showing we've really gotten was his 5 day fight endurance but that's still in the air until we get a good sense of just how strong "the dukes" are compared to big name characters like other Super Nova's or the SH's themselves(Though that fight will never happen)

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

can't really say.. without fully seeing their feats. BUT should be able to take out doffy.

how????????????

 

[nanadaime]

doffy easily prob mid to semi high diff both char seem to focus on close combat etc.. doffy can easily evade them and he also put sanji in parasite who shouldnt be that far from these 2 even so he still in cannon put jozu in parasite so neither of these char r stronger then jozu... so with that being said doffy sits on his throne while he controls either zoro or killer to fight off the other

i think the lowest person that can take these 2 out would be gear 4th luffy

and perhaps law if and only if he can shambles personalites from the get go or is very far away tho if its regular distance i doubt he can do this so yeah gonna say gear 4th luffy (or vista)

I doubt it will be that simple if Fuji can use CoO to see doffys string coming and block it there is no reason for zoro and killer(I'm assuming he has CoO) to block it as well zoro can throw his slashes and like others said we don't know killers real strength but I'm assuming he's at the least just under zoro so let's say zoro sends a series of attacks while killer closes in then killer attacks in hand to hand while zoro comes to help how would doffy get out of this unless he uses his awakening then it can go either way

 

[chopstickchakra]

I doubt it will be that simple if Fuji can use CoO to see doffys string coming and block it there is no reason for zoro and killer(I'm assuming he has CoO) to block it as well zoro can throw his slashes and like others said we don't know killers real strength but I'm assuming he's at the least just under zoro so let's say zoro sends a series of attacks while killer closes in then killer attacks in hand to hand while zoro comes to help how would doffy get out of this unless he uses his awakening then it can go either way

It's all speculation of course but Doffy has 10 strings and Zoro and Killer only have 5 blades between them. It'd be incredibly ridiculous but he could use a hand per person to deflect incoming attacks. Not to mention he could use Black Knight to give himself a hand.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I doubt it will be that simple if Fuji can use CoO to see doffys string coming and block it there is no reason for zoro and killer(I'm assuming he has CoO) to block it as well zoro can throw his slashes and like others said we don't know killers real strength but I'm assuming he's at the least just under zoro so let's say zoro sends a series of attacks while killer closes in then killer attacks in hand to hand while zoro comes to help how would doffy get out of this unless he uses his awakening then it can go either way

so sanji who specializes in Coo couldnt c it until it was 2 late why would zoro or killer.. same with jozu


not to mention fuji should have incredible coo simply cuz he is blind the feats of an admiral level person should not be compared to someone like zoro or killer who is vastly inferior ......
also like the other guy said he has his cloan to helo him and awakened df with superior haki and speed durability endurance etc
neither of these char has ever done anything significant on the level of gamma knife or gear 4th both which were key elements into taking down doffy

 

[KingHashirama]

how????????????

How not? Luffy was defeated by 2 supernovas who fought him seperatly. This is 2 supernovas fighting him at the same time.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

How not? Luffy was defeated by 2 supernovas who fought him seperatly. This is 2 supernovas fighting him at the same time.

Lol what ????

 

[sravan]

garp,rayleigh,shiki,luffy&law,doffy+anyone(to distract killer till doffy manages to beat zorro),any 2 supernovas(mainly captains if they work together),magellan+enel,marco&any firstmates of yonko.sabo+any V.A,Dragon(hype),There are more characters that can beat these two.I think franky+sanji+brook or robin+nami+chopper+ussopp can beat these two.

 

[Bogard]

Most likely only yonko FMs and up can defeat this duo. Doflamingo is likely as strong as a yonko second mate and he can't handle g2/3 Luffy and Law. This pair is likely a little below

 

[Skull Knight]

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