Gai, Obito, Minato, Kakashi -vs- Edo Madara

[Beans2]

Team 1: Gai, MS Obito, Hokage Minato, MS Kakashi
Team 2: Edo Madara

Location: Madara vs Gokage
Intel: Full
Distance: 200m
Restrictions: 8th Gate and Perfect Susanoo and V4 susanoo

Obito is allowed to use izanagi, but cannot leave the battlefield other than to go to kamui's dimension. Minato is allowed to use outside markings. This battle is IC. Madara has all Rinnegan feats which would logically apply to him.

 

[EZQ]

Kamui gg.

EDIT: Just saw IC.

Madara wins with his v4. Low diff

 

[KidGamer65]

-Hmm, v4 Susanoo.
-All of Nagato's Rinnegan feats, but stronger since this is Madara.
-Clones.
-Opposition has no way to deal with any of this from what I can tell.

Madara shits.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Madara wins Mokuton, clones, V4 Susano, infinite chakra, Rinnegan, gives Madara certain victory.

 

[Beans2]

I forgot to restrict Madara's giant V4.

It's restricted.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Then, the other team wins.

 

[EZQ]

Their only chance is kamui gg and it's not happening in character

 

[MasqueradeNX]

They could win with Kamui but thats about all they can do

 

[Scryed]

I'll go with Madara Mid difficulty.

 

[ARGUS]

Madara should win

--Mokuton clones take care of Obitos kamui movements, ST can alaways hit them, including obito since a force of no shape or form hitting obito is not going to help kamui move it to the other dimension

--Kamui GG is countered by blocking the LoS with mokuton, attacking with mokuton clones, or retaliating with ST

--jukai kotan plus FTW then gets rid of them, all FTG markings are covered, intangibility limit is taken care off, and the team gets put to sleep, the team lacks the firepower to completely bust with the exception of hirudora,which madara can halt by using a larger ST

--CST one shots. Tengai Shinsei can one shot

 

[TRE MERCER]

Madara should win

--Mokuton clones take care of Obitos kamui movements, ST can alaways hit them, including obito since a force of no shape or form hitting obito is not going to help kamui move it to the other dimension

--Kamui GG is countered by blocking the LoS with mokuton, attacking with mokuton clones, or retaliating with ST

--jukai kotan plus FTW then gets rid of them, all FTG markings are covered, intangibility limit is taken care off, and the team gets put to sleep, the team lacks the firepower to completely bust with the exception of hirudora,which madara can halt by using a larger ST

--CST one shots. Tengai Shinsei can one shot

This is why the base is shitty as it is. Now people are actually trying to say Obito can't faze through S/T? Smhhhh. I guess ps shockwaves can hit Obito as well since it's a force with no shape or form huh?

 

[EZQ]

This is why the base is shitty as it is. Now people are actually trying to say Obito can't faze through S/T? Smhhhh. I guess ps shockwaves can hit Obito as well since it's a force with no shape or form huh?

Shocwaves have mass and it pushes the body. It actually makes contact.

ST is gravitational control.

 

[ARGUS]

This is why the base is shitty as it is. Now people are actually trying to say Obito can't faze through S/T? Smhhhh. I guess ps shockwaves can hit Obito as well since it's a force with no shape or form huh?

Shockwave is air, with a clear mass and a gaseous state
ST is gravity, completely Intangible with no physical shape or form of any type.
Obito can't anticipate ST and kamui won't be transmitting his overlapping body when it doesn't recognize anything physical hitting his body.

 

[Eng nawashi]

ST will repel obito but he won't receive any damage since he can just slip with everything that is about to hit him .

 

[Ambivalence]

ST will repel obito but he won't receive any damage since he can just slip with everything that is about to hit him .

Read the two comments above you. And no, Obito only enters ghost mode the moment something overlaps with his body, not before that.

 

[Eng nawashi]

Read the two comments above you. And no, Obito only enters ghost mode the moment something overlaps with his body, not before that.

Read my post again Lol ,I agree that ST will mostlikely work on obito .but ST itself doesnt damage the target .hitting the ground and flying rocks is what causes the damage ,which obito can counter by slipping through the rocks.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Shocwaves have mass and it pushes the body. It actually makes contact.

ST is gravitational control.

Shockwave is air, with a clear mass and a gaseous state
ST is gravity, completely Intangible with no physical shape or form of any type.
Obito can't anticipate ST and kamui won't be transmitting his overlapping body when it doesn't recognize anything physical hitting his body.

Wrong gravity doesn't affect Obito either shown as he was floating during his intangible time.(

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). If Obito kamui only works when somehting overlaps with his body/touch it how come he's isn't constant being intangible since air will be constantly overlapping with his body further more we've seen Obito stand on solid ground.(

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). while being intangible if the automatic overlapping thing was true he would be able to stand due to Kamui make him slip through the ground the moment it makes contact.

 

[EZQ]

No TRE, Obito was not floating on those scans. He was on air, using the floating rocks as supports for jumping.

 

[NarutoX28]

From what I recall, the Viz Translation actually described Shinra Tensei as a blast wave with Deva Path's first ST on Kakashi illustrating that. Though, I'm not 100 sure of that.

 

[EZQ]

From what I recall, the Viz Translation actually described Shinra Tensei as a blast wave with Deva Path's first ST on Kakashi illustrating that. Though, I'm not 100 sure of that.

Kakashi figured it out against Deva. It's gravitational control