[VS] Whitebeard vs Akainu

[LBeezy]

Except Teach and his crew didn't jump WB, it was a straight fight.

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[Yubel]

Lmao the very fact that a bunch of fodder could hurt WB to that extent just shows you how weak he had gotten. Akainu was held back by plot, a dozen sword stabs in not even close to getting your head cleaved off or getting your internals burnt inside out which Akainu could have done then and there, he would have given WB 2-3 severe wounds or even completely took his head off with nothing remaining right here.

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Good luck winning the battle from here on out with either no head or 3 huge holes that completely burnt your organs inside.

Plot is the only reason WB was even allowed to fight for that long. If Akainu or any other Admiral had concentrated on WB he would have been stopped then and there.

And no dont even bring up the cheapshot that an enraged WB had to land to finally do something to an Admiral.

1.Ace did not just die infront of WB in this scenario
2.WB will not get a complete cheapshot opening in this scenario.

Fact of the matter was even a healthier WB did not manage to get past Akainu's defense, so an extremely injured WB obviously won't be able to under normal circumstances (no cheapshot no Ace death).

The first hit was a cheapshot but the second one was not. Also you're a hypocrite for not even acknowledging that Akainu only injured Whitebeard by cheapshotting him which he wouldn't have done under normal circumstances.

 

[ssjelf]

Except Teach and his crew didn't jump WB, it was a straight fight.


That title carried over from his previous days. WB himself said "It's not like I could be the strongest forever."


No top tier is one-shorting another top tier in a straight fight under any circumstances. We've seen that the closer two people are in strength, the harder it is for either one to take the other out. That's why Garp and Roger almost killed each other, but couldn't finish it up. That's why Akainu and Aokiji took ten days to finish up their fight. Akainu being able to one-shot WB under any circumstances in a straight fight is absurd.

Which is the point I was trying to make, thanks for playing.

No that isn't the point you were making. You are suggesting that at that moment akainu was still going to beat WB which just isn't true. The two scenarios are different and you continue to ignore it. You keep making the point that akainu>BB which is true but it does not mean that akainu wasn't going to lose because you keep saying that if akainu>bb then WB would have lost if he continues fighting akainu. I'll say it once again the scenarios are different. The only one playing here is you.

 

[Punk Hazard]

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Mfw that's not being jumped

No that isn't the point you were making. You are suggesting that at that moment akainu was still going to beat WB which just isn't true. The two scenarios are different and you continue to ignore it. You keep making the point that akainu>BB which is true but it does not mean that akainu wasn't going to lose because you keep saying that if akainu>bb then WB would have lost if he continues fighting akainu. I'll say it once again the scenarios are different. The only one playing here is you.

No, I'm positive he would have beaten WB there too. As someone pointed out before, Akainu is a tank. WB'S body would have given out on him before he could finish Akainu.

 

[Skull Knight]

WB really loved Ace. He went full nuts after seeing Ace death. U guys can see here;
[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l_088JPVbtE[/video]
He could have killed Akainu in beginning of this video with his big sword/spear thing.
And stop saying,"He was No World Strongest Man in Marineford Arc."
Even with those injuries he almost destroyed Marineford with a single punch.

 

[Punk Hazard]

WB really loved Ace. He went full nuts after seeing Ace death. U guys can see here;
[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l_088JPVbtE[/video]
He could have killed Akainu in beginning of this video with his big sword/spear thing.
I feel Oda did a major mistake by not showing Armament Haki of WB in this fight.
WB being a Yonko showed no Armament haki against a logia user is unacceptable.
And stop saying,"He was No World Strongest Man in Marineford Arc."
Even with those injuries he almost destroyed Marineford with a single punch.

The anime bastardized Akainu. In the manga, Whitebeard didn't stand behind him for a few seconds with Akainu looking stunned before he slowly turned around. Whitebeard appeared behind Akainu with a punch already coming and immediately laughed into them. The anime had to extend it because the actual fight would have been like five seconds, and they did so by downplaying Akainu.

 

[Skull Knight]

The anime bastardized Akainu. In the manga, Whitebeard didn't stand behind him for a few seconds with Akainu looking stunned before he slowly turned around. Whitebeard appeared behind Akainu with a punch already coming and immediately laughed into them. The anime had to extend it because the actual fight would have been like five seconds, and they did so by downplaying Akainu.

Still if the fight continued even after that last punch shown in that video(which destroyed Marineford).I think WB would have won.

 

[MadaraReturns]

Loooool, Whitebeard rapes.

 

[Spha]

Akainu knows his own abilities well enough, he knows that he was no match for Whitebeard, so he waited until whitebeard was on death door until he can fight him, so I would say Akainu may seem cocky but smart, so in a One on One fight with Whitebeard, Akainu would have lost.

To prove my theory is that Akainu fought almost all Whitebeard Commanders but the moment a One Handed Shanks shows up, Akainu edge to go after Luffy stopped, as he knew he stood no chance against a Fresh Yonko....so Akainu loses in a fight with whitebeard anytime.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Prime WB beats AKainu.

Akainu beats Old WB.

Those who think that even a half-dead WB could've beaten Akainu when a bunch of bullets finished him off should stop debating and re-read the manga.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Akainu knows his own abilities well enough, he knows that he was no match for Whitebeard, so he waited until whitebeard was on death door until he can fight him, so I would say Akainu may seem cocky but smart, so in a One on One fight with Whitebeard, Akainu would have lost.

To prove my theory is that Akainu fought almost all Whitebeard Commanders but the moment a One Handed Shanks shows up, Akainu edge to go after Luffy stopped, as he knew he stood no chance against a Fresh Yonko....so Akainu loses in a fight with whitebeard anytime.

>"Akainu is scared to fight WB"
>"Akainu only waited till WB was half-dead"
>MFW Akainu was one of the first people to engage WB while he was still in his best state of the war

Also, Akainu early on said that no matter who escapes, he will do his utmost to prevent Luffy's escape personally, before any fresh Yonko was there. He want after Luffy because priorities, not fear of fighting Shanks. By your logic, Akainu would lose against Marco because he pursued Luffy over him.

 

[Skull Knight]

Those who think that even a half-dead WB could've beaten Akainu when a bunch of bullets finished him off should stop debating and re-read the manga.

That half dead WB destroyed Marineford with one punch. Lol
Akainu was coughing blood with that hit.
I have posted the link where u can watch it in my post No.65

And 2masive holes in your chest,multiple fire burns, heart attack, mental torture, several bullet wounds etc is enough to kill somebody.
Show me one guy in OP who have tank these many things in his/her fight

 

[ToshiZO]

The first hit was a cheapshot but the second one was not. Also you're a hypocrite for not even acknowledging that Akainu only injured Whitebeard by cheapshotting him which he wouldn't have done under normal circumstances.

Lmao so you want me to ignore his heart condition? Something that will happen when the two fight? Thats fanfic WB, you said this is MF WB.

Sneaking up behind someone vs attacking someone who falls on his knees in the middle of battle is not even close. Akainu did not cheapshot WB, him and WB were clashing head on WB couldn't handle fighting Akainu for too long his body was stressing thus dropping him to his knees.

Besides the second hit WB landed only occurred because of the opening created with his cheapshot..fact of the matter is WB could do nothing to any Admiral without a cheapshot and being enraged after Ace's death.

 

[ssjelf]

Prime WB beats AKainu.

Akainu beats Old WB.

Those who think that even a half-dead WB could've beaten Akainu when a bunch of bullets finished him off should stop debating and re-read the manga.

I have reread it dozens of times akainu got whomped in that second fight.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

That half dead WB destroyed Marineford with one punch. Lol
Akainu was coughing blood with that hit.
I have posted the link where u can watch it in my post No.65

And 2masive holes in your chest,multiple fire burns, heart attack, mental torture, several bullet wounds etc is enough to kill somebody.
Show me one guy in OP who have tank these many things in his/her fight

And Akainu was just fine after that punch so...."lol" I guess. Also, I don't include non-canon material in my aruements.

I have reread it dozens of times akainu got whomped in that second fight.

-Gets punched in the back of the head with a SNEAK gura punch
-Immediately gets back up and removes half of WB's face
-Gets hit with another gura punch to the abdomen and the fight was cut short because Akainu fell into a crater.
-Akainu was fine as he didn't lose consciousness, knew where everyone was and melted a tunnel underground to intercept Jinbe
-Went to decimate WB's crew and Marco was powerless to stop him along with Vista and Croc.
-Stops because of the shock of Shanks arriving and Sengoku ordering him to stand down.

 

[Yubel]

Lmao so you want me to ignore his heart condition? Something that will happen when the two fight? Thats fanfic WB, you said this is MF WB.

Sneaking up behind someone vs attacking someone who falls on his knees in the middle of battle is not even close. Akainu did not cheapshot WB, him and WB were clashing head on WB couldn't handle fighting Akainu for too long his body was stressing thus dropping him to his knees.

Besides the second hit WB landed only occurred because of the opening created with his cheapshot..fact of the matter is WB could do nothing to any Admiral without a cheapshot and being enraged after Ace's death.

Whitebeard breaking Akainu's ribs ain't a cheapshot dude. He was right infront of him when that happened and was attacking himself. A cheapshot is attacking someone who is not paying attention to you. It doesn't have to be from behind. Any sneak attack is a cheapshot, Law's gamma knife on Doflamingo was a cheap shot even though he was right infront of him.

 

[MickNerks]

Fresh Whitebeard Vs Fresh Akainu

I give that to Whitebeard

 

[ssjelf]

And Akainu was just fine after that punch so...."lol" I guess. Also, I don't include non-canon material in my aruements.



-Gets punched in the back of the head with a SNEAK gura punch
-Immediately gets back up and removes half of WB's face
-Gets hit with another gura punch to the abdomen and the fight was cut short because Akainu fell into a crater.
-Akainu was fine as he didn't lose consciousness, knew where everyone was and melted a tunnel underground to intercept Jinbe
-Went to decimate WB's crew and Marco was powerless to stop him along with Vista and Croc.
-Stops because of the shock of Shanks arriving and Sengoku ordering him to stand down.

I have said it before and I will say it again, akainu at that moment was vulnerable to another onslaught of attacks. The only thing that saved him is the ground collapsing.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

I have said it before and I will say it again, akainu at that moment was vulnerable to another onslaught of attacks. The only thing that saved him is the ground collapsing.

Akainu recovered from a gura punch to the head insanely quickly so don't see how Akainu would be so incapacitated that WB could just whale on him. It is incredibly stupid to think that that version of WB could take out a fresh Akainu when WB was weak enough for bullets to kill him.

Also, when did WB break Akainu's ribs? It was never stated or implied and how come WB's condition is being ignored? WB can jump Aakinu but Akainu can't when WB has a heart attack?

 

[ToshiZO]

Whitebeard breaking Akainu's ribs ain't a cheapshot dude. He was right infront of him when that happened and was attacking himself. A cheapshot is attacking someone who is not paying attention to you. It doesn't have to be from behind. Any sneak attack is a cheapshot, Law's gamma knife on Doflamingo was a cheap shot even though he was right infront of him.

Lmao Akainu did not cheapshot WB. WB fell from stressing his own body, it will happen again in any scenario.

I already explained this, WB's second attack was due to an opening made via the cheapshot, he wouldn't have even got the second shot off if not for engaging Akainu from behind.

We saw both of them engage each other from head on and they were roughly equal, its not easy to get an opening on a top tier in a 1v1 who knows how long it would take for WB to land a blow on Akainu it could take a day but obviously by that time WB would have suffered from a heart attack leading to his downfall.

In this scenario WB is not cheapshotting Akainu nor did Ace die infront of him. Even Luffy gains an upper hand when enraged for a brief moment.

Even giving WB the cheapshot he would have eventually died if he continued fighting Akainu cause we saw Akainu had enough in him to fight off a bunch of commanders (Marco) and shichibukai. People are out of their minds if they think Akainu would not have finished WB then and there if WB didn't move on to Teach.