[Discussion] Doflamingo takes a Yonko commander gauntlet

[Uzumaki Macho]

Ace
X Drake
Vista
Jozu (not sure who is stronger between him and Vista)
Jack
Marco (not sure who is stronger between him and Jack)

Scenario 1: no heals
Scenario 2: heals after every fight

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

It's hard to judge how strong most of those people are. He beats Ace and X-Drake fairly easily, unless Drake has some crazy new form we don't know about. I would say it's high diff for him to beat Vista and Jozu, but there's no way of knowing that. Jack beats him if only because newer villain logic demands he's stronger than Doffy. Marco wins mid-high diff.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Loses at Jack.

 

[Bimbonium]

Scenario 1; he stops at vista
Scenario 2; he stops at Jack

 

[Venomous Cobra]

S1 Stops at Jozu
S2 Stops at marco due inferior feats

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

It's hard to judge how strong most of those people are. He beats Ace and X-Drake fairly easily, unless Drake has some crazy new form we don't know about. I would say it's high diff for him to beat Vista and Jozu, but there's no way of knowing that. Jack beats him if only because newer villain logic demands he's stronger than Doffy. Marco wins mid-high diff.

I agree with this guy

 

[Bogard]

1- There is no confirmation Drake is a commander and i personally highly doubt he is
2- I'm fairly confident Ace was stronger than current Drake
3- I see Ace as a high diff fight for Doffy, so in this case, Drake who i view as one of the strongest supernovas should be able to win
4- In the healed situation, he may or may not beat Vista, but won't get past Jozu

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

1- There is no confirmation Drake is a commander and i personally highly doubt he is
2- I'm fairly confident Ace was stronger than current Drake
3- I see Ace as a high diff fight for Doffy, so in this case, Drake who i view as one of the strongest supernovas should be able to win
4- In the healed situation, he may or may not beat Vista, but won't get past Jozu

Who do you think are the strongest supernovas? I don't see Ace pushing DD to high diff if Law got mid diffed by DD.

 

[Bogard]

Who do you think are the strongest supernovas? I don't see Ace pushing DD to high diff if Law got mid diffed by DD.

There is no contradiction. The only supernova i place above Ace is current Luffy with maybe Kid having a chance to be higher, but i still think Drake is one of the strongest supernovas with only Kid and Luffy above him(i even have him a little above Law)

 

[chopstickchakra]

It's hard to judge how strong most of those people are. He beats Ace and X-Drake fairly easily, unless Drake has some crazy new form we don't know about. I would say it's high diff for him to beat Vista and Jozu, but there's no way of knowing that. Jack beats him if only because newer villain logic demands he's stronger than Doffy. Marco wins mid-high diff.

Newer villain logic doesn't always play out and usually applies to the main villains, Jack was a subordinate to the main villain while Doffy was the main villain. Foxy was intro'd after Enel and Croc but isn't a stronger enemy just because of that fact. Hell it's arguable Croc and Enel could beat Moriah outside of Thriller Bark.

We saw very little of Jack and we don't know a real strength level for the only tough opponents we've seen him defeat(Duke and nekomamushi) Doffy didn't show an ounce of fear or hesitation when he said they would need to take care of Fujitora after Luffy and I know characters overestimate themselves from time to time but Doffy seemed to have a pretty good grasp on everything going on. Not to mention we've seen no Haki from Jack so until now, like Ace, we should all be assuming he doesn't have it(as illogical as that may sound)

He either loses at Jack extreme diff or Marco because as far as we've seen the only real way to ensure Marco holds damage is to fight him while he's handcuffed with seastone cuffs.

 

[Passerby]

He isn't beating Marco or Jack for sure.

 

[shivjee]

scenario 1 stops at jozu at max
scenario 2 jack (not sure)

 

[Relostar Devil]

Will defeat everyone of them but stalemates with Marco and Jack!

 

[Relostar Devil]

scenario 1 stops at jozu at max
scenario 2 jack (not sure)

He made a fool out of jozu, why is it at max with him?

 

[-Akuma-]

Stops at Vista both scenarios

 

[ToshiZO]

Beats Vista, X Drake and Ace for sure.

Jozu is a tossup but I don't think Doflamingo has enough offense to threaten Jozu so he loses.

 

[Legend Slayer]

People need to remember that he used the puppet technique on Jozu with ease at MF. So Jozu might be overestimated.

 

[YellowFang]

I believe Vista to be a better opponent for a versatile combatant like DD than Jozu...
Scenario 1:
- Destroys Ace
- Extreme-Mid diff. against Drake
- Loses to Jozu, Mid diff. at max.

Scenario 2:
- Defeats Ace and Drake
- Defeats Jozu High diff.
- Loses to Vista High-Extreme diff.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Beats Vista, X Drake and Ace for sure.

Jozu is a tossup but I don't think Doflamingo has enough offense to threaten Jozu so he loses.

What makes you think that Jozu>Vista?

 

[ToshiZO]

What makes you think that Jozu>Vista?

The manga. Its not even arguable. Marco and Jozu is more arguable.