Yo! Shout out to Kabuto for soling 2 susanoo(s)!

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You keep saying the same thing, so don't whine when I reply "Doesn't make him impressive. Just makes him strong" again.

Who's whining? Surely isn't me :lol


I told you the bold is subjective. But let me ask you a question, was it impressive when Sasuke unlocked Sussano or used Amateratsu?
 

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Yet the two dojutsu I mentioned are what saved him from being killed throughout the series :lmao:

Same goes for Naruto

Yeah and kabuto's enhancements were what stopped him from being stomped immediately, your point?

Being a medical ninja and a spy ain't easy. That's hard work. Send naruto out on one of those spy mission. Dude will fail hard!

That's what kabuto was trained to do, send kabuto to learn senjutsu without his enhancements and he'll turn to stone.
 

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Yeah and kabuto's enhancements were what stopped him from being stomped immediately, your point?



That's what kabuto was trained to do, send kabuto to learn senjutsu without his enhancements and he'll turn to stone.

Send Naruto to learn senjutsu without that godly chakra pool and he'll turn to stone. Fall back! He did what he gotta do to survive. The Shinobi world is a mean ass world!
 

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Send Naruto to learn senjutsu without that godly chakra pool and he'll turn to stone. Fall back! He did what he gotta do to survive. The Shinobi world is a mean ass world!

That's part of his gene pool not stolen power.

Like I said before I never said kabuto never put any effort or train, but to say he was the hardest working ninja is too much
 

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That's part of his gene pool not stolen power.

Like I said before I never said kabuto never put any effort or train, but to say he was the hardest working ninja is too much

Take willpower to handle all that DNAs in a regular ass body.
 

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Yeah and kabuto's enhancements were what stopped him from being stomped immediately, your point?
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The point is the people downplaying what made Kabuto strong. Sasuke wouldn't even be top 20 with techs he didn't train for
 

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Yup same goes for danzo, I don't see anyone hyping his will power :lol

Dude had to place a seal on that arm to stop it from draining his chakra. Plus all he did with that power was spam izanagi. Failed ass Shinobi. All that power, but he couldn't utlize it to the fullest.
 
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Dude had to place a seal on that arm to stop it from draining his chakra. Plus all he did with that power is spam izanagi. Failed ass Shinobi. All that power, but he couldn't utlize it to the fullest.

He failed but he had will power.
 

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He failed but he had will power.

Oh he did indeed. Wanted to control all the bijuus. That's some "serious" will power.

But for will power....orochimaru got that on lock down. Kabuto said orochimaru should've been dead already, but it was his will power that kept him alive to steal Sasuke's body.
 

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Oh he did indeed. Wanted to control all the bijuus. That's some "serious" will power.

But for will power....orochimaru got that on lock down. Kabuto said orochimaru should've been dead already, but it was his will power that kept him alive to steal Sasuke's body.

So now you see.So how is kabuto the hardest working shinobi?

The point is the people downplaying what made Kabuto strong. Sasuke wouldn't even be top 20 with techs he didn't train for

Same goes for kabuto. I am not downplaying him merely saying he isn't the hardest working shinobi
 

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So now you see.So how is kabuto the hardest working shinobi?



Same goes for kabuto. I am not downplaying him merely saying he isn't the hardest working shinobi

I know, I didn't say you did, was just making a point =P


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So now you see.So how is kabuto the hardest working shinobi?



Same goes for kabuto. I am not downplaying him merely saying he isn't the hardest working shinobi

lol. Touche! Who is the hardest working shinobi then?
 

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This is one shitty ass thread. Kabuto stole his power from other people and even brings back dead corpses to do his bidding. You could've picked someone better mate.

Everything he used was because of an injection. No training required. He essentially told Sasuke that himself, and Kishi showed us exactly what he wanted us to see.

It's literally in the manga that he trained to master Sage mode. An injection didn't give him that ability and you sound pretty foolish claiming that it did.

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Jugo's abilities allow him to passively absorb nature energy, it has jack shit to do with learning/mastering SM. Think of it like EMS but for a SM user.
 

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Oh the base is hot tonight! Over a Kabuto thread of all things.
 

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This is one shitty ass thread. Kabuto stole his power from other people and even brings back dead corpses to do his bidding. You could've picked someone better mate.



It's literally in the manga that he trained to master Sage mode. An injection didn't give him that ability and you sound pretty foolish claiming that it did.

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Jugo's abilities allow him to passively absorb nature energy, it has jack shit to do with learning/mastering SM. Think of it like EMS but for a SM user.

ACTUALLY,

The fact that he grows horns and has a generally snake-like appearance while in Sage Mode implies that he has not mastered it, as Naruto did, as only pigmentation would be present, not animalistic traits.

Which in turn implies that he only had to know how to gather the Senjutsu chakra, not balance it within his body, similar to how Jiraiya entered Sage Mode.

Which further implies that he didn't actually have to train whatsoever, as imperfect sage mode requiring only senjutsu chakra without balance is possible with Jugo's cells.

"Trained" is such a subjective term. So... do with that what you will.
 
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I wasn't planning on replying to your BS but since you insisted.... I agree that Jiraiya and Kabuto's Sage Mode is similar in the gathering of senjutsu and that's why you're wrong.

The fact that he grows horns and has a generally snake-like appearance while in Sage Mode implies that he has not mastered it, as Naruto did, as only pigmentation would be present, not animalistic traits.

Which in turn implies that he only had to know how to gather the Senjutsu chakra, not balance it within his body, similar to how Jiraiya entered Sage Mode.

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This post literally makes no sense since all Fukasaku and Shima do is gather nature energy for Jiraiya and he balances it.

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The fact that Jiraiya could not balance nature energy perfectly is irrelevant to our discussion because he still trained his ass off to master it to the degree that he did.

Then there's the fact that Kabuto is already snake-like in appearance, even in the Gaiden - he only grows horns, so his mastery is above Jiraiya's,

Which further implies that he didn't actually have to train whatsoever, as imperfect sage mode requiring only senjutsu chakra without balance is possible with Jugo's cells.

Why are you under the impression Jiraiya or Kabuto do not have to balance the chakra they take in? :lol Not once has this been stated or hinted at. Fukasaku explains what the merger is for here:

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Jugo cells, Fukasaku and Shima only aid in gathering the nature energy for Jiraiya and Kabuto. They do not eliminate the need for balance in any way shape or form. Kabuto and Jiraiya both trained to hone their Sage Mode, obviously. You're arguing against a fact:


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"Trained" is such a subjective term. So... do with that what you will.

No it's not. Jiraiya clearly went through the same training that Naruto went through.

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And before Fukasaku even ATTEMPTED to fuse with Naruto, he had already been put through rigorous training in order to help him balance nature energy

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The fact that you think Fukasaku and Shima can just hop on Jiraiya and automatically make him a Sage without prior training of any kind is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard and if you're going to reply post some scans to support your nonsense because I do not give a **** about your opinion .
 
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